Abortion

Oceanbreeze said:
That is right, Cheri. I support a woman's right to choose. This means if a woman is pregnant by rape, and chooses to keep her child, I will support her. I will also support a woman who chooses to abort a pregnancy brought about by rape. It is not up to me to tell someone what they should or shouldn't do. And, it's also not up to anyone else, either.
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Yes, I think the same as you.

I don't beleive to judge anyone for that because it's their choice, not ours. I support their choice either they want to keep it or not.
 
Liebling:-))) said:
What if there are severe malformation (example about brain damaged?) Depend to kind of malformation babies either you can keep or not.

I think it's unfair for the malformation children grow up like this and also burden for the parents, too.

I would not abort if my baby have heart diease, siamsate twin, etc because the doctors CAN cure their healthy except brain damage, etc.
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Malformation? So, if the babies are found to be deaf, blind, mentally-retarded, etc - they should be aborted? I would keep the baby if there is something wrong with the baby!
 
Cheri said:
That's your choice, But, I don't think the child would be devested, I think more of "thanking you for not aborted me." :)
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True, the children would love you more because you did not abort him/her.

I thanked my mother to not abort me that's time she got German measles when she was 3 months pregnant with me. She rejected the doctors's recommend to abort me.
 
Brian said:
Malformation? So, if the babies are found to be deaf, blind, mentally-retarded, etc - they should be aborted? I would keep the baby if there is something wrong with the baby!
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Like what I mentioned in my previous posts.

I would not abort if there're heart diease, siamase twins, etc... because the doctors CAN help/cure them.

I would abort if there're brain damaged, can't remain alive longer, etc. etc. where the doctors CAN'T heal because it's unfair for the child grow up like this. I beleive the children deserve to being healthy and happy.

Deaf or blind - Malformation? No, the doctors can't confirm either unborn babies are deaf or blind. How do the doctors know unborn babies are deaf or blind?
 
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Magatsu said:
I know what you mean. I am aware that I am a guy but I rather to not see my mother to be suffer like that. In fact, I would sacrifice my life for my mother in a second if she ask or need. That's what 'love' really means (my opinion).

I know that it is not baby's fault but still, if my mother would rather to abort me because of rape issue... as unborn baby, I will send my thanks to my mother. I prefer to see my mother to be happy and enjoy her life than be suffer and miserable. I grew up seeing my mother suffered and struggled because of my father and his cruelity for 14 years... I understand and I know what this feeling that I have means... I would pick the 'peace of death' over 14 years of suffering at any time without any second thoughts. Because many years of suffering is not a "life" at all.

What does really worth to me is her happiness. It is totally unnecessary for her to be suffer like that.

However I completely agree with your statement: Every individual is different in their own way, Some can move on life forget the rape some cannot.
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I also read the magazines too. Some of rapist's child thank their mothers for not abort them and love him/her what he/she is. They were brought up by loving and happy family.

It would be different if they do not receive the love and attention from their mothers because mothers look them as "rapist child".
 
Tamara said:
How would these victims announced their pregnant by a Rapist to everyone?

Become a pregnant should be exciting news and congratulations from your family and friends?
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Answer your question:

I tried to picture myself what I react if the rapist got me pregnant.

Here is my answer:

I would not abort the rapist's baby if I know that he/she is heathly. I would give rapist's baby up to adoption because the healthy and innoncent child deserve being alive and being love by adopt parents.
 
Reba said:
It is also not the baby's fault.

There is another option. The baby can be given up for adoption. There are many, many families waiting and waiting for a baby. They don't care about how the baby was conceived. They just want a baby to raise with love.

There are private agencies that will help the pregnant woman with her medical and other expenses, and even provide a quiet safe place to live while she is pregnant, if she wants privacy.

The truth is, a woman who has been raped will remember that event for a long time, whether she is pregnant or not.
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Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's what I just responsed Tamara's question.

Yes, it's true, it will stick women's mind forever like scar if they were rapist, absive, etc. no matter either they are pregnant or not.
 
Oceanbreeze said:
And, the truth also is, it's up to the woman to decide what is best for her. Not a third person who doesn't know the woman or her state of mind.
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True... I second that.
 
Everyone have different views for keep babies or not either they are the child of rapist, malformation child, child of teenagers parents... etc. etc.

All what I do is respect/support their choice instead of judge them.
 
Tamara said:
You making it sound like the Rapist deserve a credit for keeping the baby not matter what, despite the Mother's fight, bash and awful fight and crying NOOOOOOOOOO in first place, why should she gave up her life for this imprisoner to bring up unwanted baby in first place?

To keep the baby bring a flash-back of this awful fight and beat up??

Anyone who were born as a raped results will feel bad to know what their mother went through - nice isnt it?
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How would you know they would have flash-back? You haven't walked their feet to say much a thing. It's not giving Rapist credit for the mother keeping the baby, You don't understand my post. If the mother keeps the baby, It was her choice only and I am postive sure the child would not feel bad if the mother doesn't.
 
It wouldnt be nice for a raped woman to give birth and give it away for adoption, The baby will soon grow up and realize that the foster parents are not their true parents and also soon to find out that he/she is the baby to a Rapist. Would i want to know that? No. I would rather be aborted than to know that i am a baby to a rapist.
 
Nusentinsaino said:
It wouldnt be nice for a raped woman to give birth and give it away for adoption, The baby will soon grow up and realize that the foster parents are not their true parents and also soon to find out that he/she is the baby to a Rapist. Would i want to know that? No. I would rather be aborted than to know that i am a baby to a rapist.
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How is it different being in a home where there are abusive, how is it different being in a home when the child is sexual Molestation? There is not different from being born by a rapist father. Are you going to judge a child because he or she was produce by a rapist? Are you going to judge a child that was born in an abusive home or sexual Molestation When they were younger or the day they were born? Why look at them like they are pieces of crap because they were produce from a rapist? Well, If you would rather to be aborted than being known as you were produce by a rapist, Then would you still wanted to be aborted if you were sexual molestation? or being abuse?
 
Abortion is when you remove the fetus out of the woman's womb... How can a person molest me or abuse me before I get aborted? You are not making sense.
 
Nusentinsaino said:
Abortion is when you remove the fetus out of the woman's womb... How can a person molest me or abuse me before I get aborted? You are not making sense.
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Ever heard of someone would do that to you while you in the womb. Husbands abuse wives, hit them in the tummy while you in the womb growing, People would done sexual molesting while you in the womb too. Ever think about that one? Guess not.
 
Nusentinsaino said:
It wouldnt be nice for a raped woman to give birth and give it away for adoption, The baby will soon grow up and realize that the foster parents are not their true parents and also soon to find out that he/she is the baby to a Rapist. Would i want to know that? No. I would rather be aborted than to know that i am a baby to a rapist.
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I know several adult adoptees who would strongly disagree with you. They know they have adoptive parents. They know that their conceptions were not done in love. But their adoptive parents love them, and they have good lives. They thank God that their birth mothers did not abort them.

What difference does it make to you what your birth parents were doing to make you? What is more important, what YOU do with YOUR life. Many of us did not have perfect parents or childhoods. So should we just quit life and kill ourselves? Of course not.

When you sign "in the past" you push it behind you. When you sign "future" you reach forward. That is the difference.
 
i believe it is between God and the woman to arrive at a decision. I strongly dont support abortion for me. but for others I feel it is something they shoudl pray about and let God show them whats right rather than all of us trying to give our input.

And I have been there and walked in their shoes so i know what these women are goig through. its not easy.
 
Cheri said:
Ever heard of someone would do that to you while you in the womb. Husbands abuse wives, hit them in the tummy while you in the womb growing, People would done sexual molesting while you in the womb too. Ever think about that one? Guess not.
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At least explain that in your first post, you said "would you rather be molested or abused before you are aborted" it did not make sense. Anyway, if i was abused in the tummy of the womb, i would be either dead or deformed... so yeah i would want to be aborted.
 
Nusentinsaino said:
At least explain that in your first post, you said "would you rather be molested or abused before you are aborted" it did not make sense. Anyway, if i was abused in the tummy of the womb, i would be either dead or deformed... so yeah i would want to be aborted.
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I didn't say that. Re-read my post again I said "Then would you still wanted to be aborted if you were sexual molestation? or being abuse?'
 
Ok...let me say something:

Have you ever heard of PASS? PASS is Post Abortion Stress Sydrome.. it means that someone have feelings of guilt, saying what ifs, not sure about their choice.. etc.. and there are a message board that is netural but they r wonderful people that offers support. PM me if u want to know more about this website and I can also give you the website link.

2nd of all, don't you know that boyfriends, husbands, parents and friends cocerce the girl into having a abortion? Cocerce means others think it's the best choice for them, while one doesn't want to do it. The girl doesn't want to have an abortion but decided to go ahead with it because everyone THOUGHT it was the best choice for her. After abortion is over, she goes into depression or angry at their loved ones for it.

Women do trigger when it comes to the abortion debate or statements especially after they had an abortion. They do trigger when it comes to seeing pregnant women, babies and children. It would get better for women when they have a supportive system and that they have counseling plus have their loved ones by their side that do understand what they are going through. I hate it when other people tells them to get over it and they expect that after the abortion is done.. they should be back to normal.. THEY ARE WRONG. I understand some women who don't regret having an abortion but I am talking about women who regret having an abortion and people just don't understand how they still mourn for their aborted baby(ies). They named their babies, the due date and the angel dates also.

Some people would go, "Nah, PASS don't exist and this is bunches of bullshit!!"

Well, Cheri is right.. I have heard of boyfriends or husbands punch their gf/wives in the stomach during pregnancy because they don't want the baby and want them to miscarrige while they want to keep the baby. I think those guys who do that to gfs/wives should be in jail for the rest of their lives for it. They are NOT definely MEN at all.

Did you know some women use abortion as birth control method over and over again. It's disguesting to me.. WHY DON'T THEY GET ON BETTER BIRTH CONTROL METHODS.. such as the pill, condoms, etc.

As far as for rape, it's not the baby's fault but women who abort it due to rape.. it's none of my business. I have known some women who kept babies after rape and the children seems happy because they KNOW they are loved by mommy no matter what. The child will understand what happened when it gets older and know it's not his/her fault. The child would probably be more angry at the rapist for hurting their mother.
 
Tamara said:
For me, If I was raped and got pregnant as a result, I would like to abortion BECAUSE I do not want to live with it for NINE MONTHS as a reminder and I don't want to tell my raped-child the truth, he/she will be devasted to know is it nice way to tell them? It is cruel.
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There! Bravo! Damn word... a former deaf friend of mine (he's male) he doesn't have the real father. Never knew who he is. Never found where he is. And the biogolicial mother doesn't want to see him (my ex-friend) since the day he was born producing by a rape. Now look at him...oh gosh you won't believe how big, big MAJOR sick fuck he is now since... with the history of criminal records that stretching back to mid-1990s of domestic violence towards his adopted parents, and to cops (5 of them) too who tried to raid him how emotional and tempermental he is. He's interested in under-age children.. it's proof because my friends saw the saved files on his desktop at his home while he was out at the store. He sent a link of under-age porno photography link from other country to my best friend for no reason and my best friend sent it to me to just showed me what he did sent to her. But I deleted it because of FBI watching online. He collects at least a thousands of porno magazines including some homos. That's why he doesn't have any friend. He's lost all of them because of that and many things he did awful to others and my friends. No women wants to be near him.. so that's why he went to Europe to seek a girl. It's friggin' scary..he's got it the "gene" from his rapist father. Eww..***shuddderrrs*** he's future rapist for sure....possible cause he sodomized my old best friend and tried to "rape" her ex-gf in the past when she didn't want to have unprotected sex w/ him. So watch out.
 
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