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Only thing I can say this one with my religion comments, "Obviously God want you to be pregnant by the rapist for his plan and maybe he want you to give a couple for their adpotion with your child or you will find your own lover through your child. Your child must be a reason for your life. You gotta to pray and have a chat with God and follow your heart."[/QUOTE]

Is it all right to break God's law by raping woman? Not His will. It is evil doers who does not give damn about God or other human beings.
 
jazzy said:
Only thing I can say this one with my religion comments, "Obviously God want you to be pregnant by the rapist for his plan and maybe he want you to give a couple for their adpotion with your child or you will find your own lover through your child. Your child must be a reason for your life. You gotta to pray and have a chat with God and follow your heart."
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Is it all right to break God's law by raping woman? Not His will. It is evil doers who does not give damn about God or other human beings.
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Do you think God don't controls the evil things? No he does control the evils and good for his plan. He used some of us to use the abortion for his plan to glory himself. Many pragmatic people say that God don't control evils and they are 100% complete wrong.
 
Crazymanw00t said:
Do you think God don't controls the evil things? No he does control the evils and good for his plan. He used some of us to use the abortion for his plan to glory himself. Many pragmatic people say that God don't control evils and they are 100% complete wrong.
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God allow evil happen to us but not favor it as u believe. Speak of against someone's will is against God. Job went thru this because God tested him and the devil asked God's permisson to do this. So u believe God allow 10 year old girls get raped and forced to carry baby full term? Not let them have an abortion becausae it is against God's law? Is it okay for men to break God's law by have sex with little girls then it is not okay for girls to abort the babies?

Never mind, God had killed many people in the past.
 
jazzy said:
God allow evil happen to us but not favor it as u believe. Speak of against someone's will is against God. Job went thru this because God tested him and the devil asked God's permisson to do this. So u believe God allow 10 year old girls get raped and forced to carry baby full term? Not let them have an abortion becausae it is against God's law? Is it okay for men to break God's law by have sex with little girls then it is not okay for girls to abort the babies?

Never mind, God had killed many people in the past.
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I agree with you, Jazzy. {edit} Anyway, save your breath! It's not worth arguing over.

Those who are firm on their beliefs won't change them. You are better off finding peace within yourself, and going about your business.

Have a good one! :)
 
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Oceanbreeze said:
I agree with you, Jazzy. {edit} Anyway, save your breath! It's not worth arguing over.

Those who are firm on their beliefs won't change them. You are better off finding peace within yourself, and going about your business.

Have a good one! :)
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{edit} It is healthly to debate to expand our knowledge with other's perspective sides. It will gain our benifits and judgements in our future life. This isn't about winning against other and this is about showing what we believe and what do we values the most. Debating is like 10x better than learning in the classroom.
 
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Crazymanw00t said:
{edit} It is healthly to debate to expand our knowledge with other's perspective sides. It will gain our benifits and judgements in our future life. This isn't about winning against other and this is about showing what we believe and what do we values the most. Debating is like 10x better than learning in the classroom.
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I know quite a few people who would disagree with you on that! Jazzy can debate you if she chooses to. I'm not going to be critical of her either way. But, you just seem to want to argue points for the sake of trying to change people's minds about abortion or some other topic relating to faith and spirituality. You leave no room for any other opinion except your own. That is hardly a debate.

{edit}I just think it's pointless to continue arguing with you about issues such as this.{edit}
 
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Crazymanw00t said:
Honestly I don't understand why people want to have sex before the marriage. Marriage is a purpose to protect all those messy situation and set-up a strong family.
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Did you know that if stay virgin until married at 65 or 70 years or older, the hormones will go down a lot, no longer sexual feeling? It could happen to anyone both female and male. And no, not all of marriage especially those Christian fanatics like you are, don't last forever. 51% of people (mostly Christian) in USA are now divorced. Doesn't the Bible say that the divorce is a sin and against the compromise (vows)? Also, some people have the reason not to marry because of taxes and avoid a bad credit joint fraud. (Right, single people do not get taxed but married people -- why is that? No sense.)God did not even create the fucking taxes! What the fuck does it have to do anything with marriage? Marriage tax penalty, what, does it mean that marriage is wrong? Were Adam and Eve ever married? Since there was no Judge, no legal witness, no clergy, and etc. ever mentioned in the Bible to had the legal to wed the first couple. Checkmate.:aw:
 
Douglas said:
Did you know that if stay virgin until married at 65 or 70 years or older, the hormones will go down a lot, no longer sexual feeling?
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Your point is what?

Douglas said:
It could happen to anyone both female and male. And no, not all of marriage especially those Christian fanatics like you are, don't last forever. 51% of people (mostly Christian) in USA are now divorced. Doesn't the Bible say that the divorce is a sin and against the compromise (vows)?
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Whoa! Many "Christian people" that you called aren't Christian but few of them are Christian just like me. It is normal for everyone to have divorce because we are humans. Now to the point you are saying that many Christian are divorcing and I bet that they had sex before the marriage or did not do the courtship before marriage. It could cause the problems inside the marriage. You also have to remember that many Christian women tends to marry non-Christian men and that could be the factor for the divorce because of disagreement with the religion practices.

Douglas said:
Also, some people have the reason not to marry because of taxes and avoid a bad credit joint fraud. (Right, single people do not get taxed but married people -- why is that? No sense.) God did not even create the fucking taxes! What the fuck does it have to do anything with marriage? Marriage tax penalty, what, does it mean that marriage is wrong?
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Welcome to America. That is America's style with government's bullshit game. Nothing I can help with the tex penalty.

Now moving to the point with why marrying? The marriage is a purpose to show that you and your partner is in the sexual relationship. Two bodies becomes one body because they are married to each other in God's view. After you are married with your partner, God will give his special gift to you and your partner with the sex life.

Well It seems that you haven't read whole Bible. I am providing you the very good link with good and point explaining about divorce and remarrying with the Bible verses.
http://www.biblebb.com/files/MAC/DIVORCE.HTM

Douglas said:
Were Adam and Eve ever married? Since there was no Judge, no legal witness, no clergy, and etc. ever mentioned in the Bible to had the legal to wed the first couple. Checkmate.:aw:
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Yes, Adam and Eve married. Lord was there and he made the decision that Adam and Eve is married to each other. Two fleshs becomes one flesh and that is excalty same as marrying situation. Did you read whole the Bible? You are showing me the same mistakes with many people that I met. You took the credits from other people's talking without checking their sources.

Sorry the checkmate bounced to you.
 
Douglas said:
... Were Adam and Eve ever married?
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Yes. They had the greatest Judge of the universe officiate their marriage. They had all the hosts of heaven for witnesses.
 
Crazymanw00t said:
Your point is what?

It's true. Don't worry, let you find out about it when you hit that old age. Btw, viagras doesn't help all 100% effective on some individuals (info found from the research.)

Whoa! Many "Christian people" that you called aren't Christian but few of them are Christian just like me.

Aren't you a Born Again?:aw: Born-again and strictly Christian practicing are included in a term as "Christian people."

It is normal for everyone to have divorce because we are humans.

As you know, it's unacceptable and sin. And you have mentioned you hate it. Hmm. Owned yourself.

Now to the point you are saying that many Christian are divorcing and I bet that they had sex before the marriage or did not do the courtship before marriage. It could cause the problems inside the marriage. You also have to remember that many Christian women tends to marry non-Christian men and that could be the factor for the divorce because of disagreement with the religion practices.

Uh-oh. Your bet is failed. Divorce doesn't only apply to "Christian people" that had sex before marriage, but it does apply to them who had sex after the marriage. :duh: Women? You forget men, too. You also also have to remember that 2 different religion practices often does not lead to divorce, *rme* Like people I know in real life -- Jewish and Methodist has been married for 30 yrs and another -- Methodist and Catholic has been married for over 40 yrs. Plus, don't you forget that both same religion practices do lead to divorce, too. Checkmate bounced hard back to you.


Welcome to America. That is America's style with government's bullshit game. Nothing I can help with the tex penalty.

Like duh. Why need to marry? It's just a fucking piece of paper.

Now moving to the point with why marrying? The marriage is a purpose to show that you and your partner is in the sexual relationship. Two bodies becomes one body because they are married to each other in God's view. After you are married with your partner, God will give his special gift to you and your partner with the sex life.

Really? How would one who is paralzyed up to the waist (useless) to have sex life when he/she wants to marry? Even having 2 inches or less weenie doesn't help.

Well It seems that you haven't read whole Bible. I am providing you the very good link with good and point explaining about divorce and remarrying with the Bible verses.
http://www.biblebb.com/files/MAC/DIVORCE.HTM

*cough* God did not write the Bible by its hand. Guess where did God came from? It doesn't mention anything about that in the Bible. :whistle:

Yes, Adam and Eve married. Lord was there and he made the decision that Adam and Eve is married to each other. Two fleshs becomes one flesh and that is excalty same as marrying situation. Did you read whole the Bible? You are showing me the same mistakes with many people that I met. You took the credits from other people's talking without checking their sources.

Priest is not Lord. Clergymen aren't God. Pastor, Reverend, and etc. are not God. You make a mistake too. Stupid stuck-up fake Christian wanna-be hypocrite motherfucker.
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About Abortion

Abortion is MURDER! Plain and simple no matter how you slice it. And while we are on the subject, cow slaughter is also MURDER! As long as we live in a slaughterhouse society there will be no justice. With the killing of embryos and cows very bad karma awaits us in this world such as war and pestilence. Just watch the local news. If you slaughter innocent animals and embryos, young men will be sent to war to be slaughtered. What goes around, comes around. Sorry.
 
backstage108 said:
Abortion is MURDER! Plain and simple no matter how you slice it. And while we are on the subject, cow slaughter is also MURDER! As long as we live in a slaughterhouse society there will be no justice. With the killing of embryos and cows very bad karma awaits us in this world such as war and pestilence. Just watch the local news. If you slaughter innocent animals and embryos, young men will be sent to war to be slaughtered. What goes around, comes around. Sorry.
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Agrees!!
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Thats why id like to see the new justices to overturn roe vs wade.
 
ravensteve1961 said:
Agrees!!
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Thats why id like to see the new justices to overturn roe vs wade.
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Why is it up to you? You're not a woman, Men can leave if they want, If you don't want a woman having an abortion then, Men will have to take responsibility for their actions, and want the woman to keep the child and who will help in the raising of the child. Have you notice there so many single mothers out there who raising their child alone, when the fathers are the deadbeats? You think that fair? It takes two to bring a child in the world not one. Remember that.
 
Tamara said:
I read a magazine a lady was convinced as a result by raped, she was falling in pieces and feel dirty. I feel sorry for her as it is not her fault in first place.
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So do you think she should be murdered now that she found that out? Or should have been aborted? Im sure she'd rather be alive.
 
#1. I am not GOD, and I can not make judgement for others.
#2. If GOD is opposed to abortation, THEN GOD will come to us himself or herself to us and telling us. I don't think so because GOD wants you to have choices.
#3. Because I do NOT want anybody telling me what to do, so therefore I will NOT tell others how to run their life.

A. I am NOT endorsing abortation
B. I am NOT against abortation
C. I am PRO-CHOICE! I respect other's choice according to their belief. I make my choice based on MY beliefs NOT OTHERS!

So, the ROE and WADE decision is here to S T A Y!
 
Diehardbiker, AMEN!
I personally would never ever have an abortion. I don't like the idear of abortion, and wish it did not exist. But it IS a nessary evil. Yes, I believe that it shouldn't be used as birth control....any woman who uses it as birth control should be sterilized. Yet most abortions are due to birth control failure. If you are against abortions, then support the morning after pill! Support health care plans covering birth control! That way, abortion rates will go down DRAMATICLY!
crazymanwoot, what if a woman had an abortion b/c of severe health abnoramlities in the fetus? What I mean by severe health abnormalities are the kind that have a VERY high risk of prenatal death or where the baby would be so severely affected that they would be in a persistant vegetative state forever. Do you think that parents should be forced to have the baby then? I definitly think that in those cases, that parents can and should be strongly informed as to survival rates and things like that, so they can make the appropreate decisions.
I think also that parents need to educate their kids...not in a brainwashing way, but just get it through their heads that sex should be sacred and not causal or anything.
I also think that along with sex ed, we should
 
deafdyke said:
crazymanwoot, what if a woman had an abortion b/c of severe health abnoramlities in the fetus? What I mean by severe health abnormalities are the kind that have a VERY high risk of prenatal death or where the baby would be so severely affected that they would be in a persistant vegetative state forever. Do you think that parents should be forced to have the baby then? I definitly think that in those cases, that parents can and should be strongly informed as to survival rates and things like that, so they can make the appropreate decisions.
I think also that parents need to educate their kids...not in a brainwashing way, but just get it through their heads that sex should be sacred and not causal or anything.
I also think that along with sex ed, we should
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You and I have a very different view on that issue. One of my view and we should give birth no matter what because it is the doctor's job to save both lives at any cost and that is their job's task. Second view, let it born and die later while on. For sure there is no choice for me to choose the abortion. Why are you limiting yourself with the abortions? There are many ways to do different than the abortion choice.
 
You know what I think is kinda sad? People are so up in arms over the abortion debate, that they waste their time arguing about it...instead, maybe we should look at the root of the matter. I think we could all agree, pro-life, pro-choice, whatever, that we'd be better off if there were less people who felt they needed abortions. So, instead of fighting about it, maybe we should talk about ways to give teenagers more self esteem, to make adoption an easier process, and othe, more productive things. Thats just my two cents.
 
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