Another, "I didn't do it!"

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The Restaurant Associate paid it on behalf of Cain because he is the one named in the complaint. In fact, Cain was one of the highest up members of the association at the time.

Then........Steinhauer was right

Prove it was a severence package. There is nothing to indicate that. The lawyers are calling it a settlement. It came following a complaint made for sexual harrassment against Herman Cain, not after a dismissal.:laugh2:

More speculation.... How about proof?
 
No, I am not "thick". I would think that anyone who had been sexually harassed would not have "settled" and would have gone to court. Anyone who wanted money would have cried "Rape" when they didn't get their way.

(just an expression - because we all know they exist)

You obviously have never been raped..... You have NO idea what goes on psychologically in the minds of those that live through it.

I am now convinced you are just trolling for reactions.
 
Exactly. Which is why they paid the women the money they did so they wouldn't go to court and have to pay out their ass! What part of that are you having so much trouble understanding? That is called a settlement. Just like when an insurance company pays you a couple grand for your "pain and suffering" in a car accident so you won't take the case to court and get a bundle out of them....
If the women thought they could "get a bundle," and their lawyers thought they could "get a bundle," why would they agree to accept so much less? Usually they do that if they think they have a weak case.

"Pain and suffering" pay outs for car accidents is an insurance formula. They total the cost of the medical expenses and lost wages, then double that for the figure. That's standard, and it usually isn't a way to avoid going to court with a case if that case truly has merit.
 
If the women thought they could "get a bundle," and their lawyers thought they could "get a bundle," why would they agree to accept so much less? Usually they do that if they think they have a weak case.

"Pain and suffering" pay outs for car accidents is an insurance formula. They total the cost of the medical expenses and lost wages, then double that for the figure. That's standard, and it usually isn't a way to avoid going to court with a case if that case truly has merit.

I think you are under estimating the psychological and emotional impact such a public airing would bring for all parties. If I was the victim of inappropriate sexual advances, I would prefer to settle out of court.
 
Republican presidential hopeful Herman Cain struggled to keep his candidacy alive on Thursday, denouncing the media and attacking rivals amid revelations that he was repeatedly accused of sexual harassment in his time as a Washington lobbyist.
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But four days after facts came to light that two women had received cash payments after accusing him of harassment in the 1990s, Cain's public image was still being tarnished by the threat of a damaging written statement by one of his accusers and his own campaign's handling of the scandal.

Cain has said consistently he never sexually harassed anyone, but his answers to other pertinent questions keep changing. In one instance, he first denied knowing of any financial settlements with his accusers, then said he recalled one. He explained the apparent contradiction by saying that he had been aware of an "agreement" but not a "settlement."

The publication cited multiple sources, including an acquaintance of the woman and a person who attended the restaurant association meeting at which the woman lodged her complaint.

Joel Bennett, an attorney for one of the women alleging sexual harassment, said he was seeking permission from the National Restaurant Association to release a statement on her behalf. Under an agreement reached in 1999, the woman agreed not to speak publicly about the episode she said occurred when she worked for the trade group and Cain was its president
Candidate Cain struggles with harassment scandal - politics - msnbc.com

Since it was reported late Sunday that at least two women had complained about Cain when they worked at the National Restaurant Association — and had received financial settlements — Cain has said consistently he never sexually harassed anyone. But his answers to other pertinent questions have changed. In one instance, he first denied knowing of any settlements with former employees, then said he recalled one, explaining he had been aware of an "agreement" but not a "settlement."

Doesn't say anything about a "severence" package.

Asked whether he would like his former employer to agree to the request, Cain sidestepped.

Cain struggles to overcome allegations controversy - politics - Decision 2012 - msnbc.com

Joel P. Bennett, a lawyer representing one of two women who made the claims against Cain, said Tuesday that his client is barred from publicly relating her side because of a non-disclosure agreement she signed upon leaving the National Restaurant Association, where Cain served as president from 1996 through 1999.

Bennett is calling on the association to waive the agreement so the woman, a federal worker living in suburban Maryland, can rebut Cain’s statements this week that the allegations were false and baseless.

“It is just frustrating that Herman Cain is going around bad-mouthing the two complainants, and my client is blocked by a confidentiality agreement,” Bennett said in an interview. “The National Restaurant Association ought to release them and allow them to respond.”

The New York Times reported Tuesday night that a second woman received a settlement of $35,000, or one year’s salary, after Cain made her uncomfortable working at the restaurant association, according to three people with direct knowledge of the payment.

He first said he had no knowledge of a settlement but later said he knew some details of the payout.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/inves...by-agreement/2011/11/01/gIQA0bOIdM_story.html
 
If the women thought they could "get a bundle," and their lawyers thought they could "get a bundle," why would they agree to accept so much less? Usually they do that if they think they have a weak case.

"Pain and suffering" pay outs for car accidents is an insurance formula. They total the cost of the medical expenses and lost wages, then double that for the figure. That's standard, and it usually isn't a way to avoid going to court with a case if that case truly has merit.

Would you want to be revictimized in a trial that has anything whatsoever to do with sexuality? Same reason women drop rape charges all the time.

You think the restaurant association didn't have insurance that covered the amount they paid out? I guarantee you they did.
 
Would you want to be revictimized in a trial that has anything whatsoever to do with sexuality? Same reason women drop rape charges all the time.
You're the one who emphasized the money aspect, so that's what I addressed.

You think the restaurant association didn't have insurance that covered the amount they paid out? I guarantee you they did.
I never said anything about the association's insurance coverage.
 
You obviously have never been raped..... You have NO idea what goes on psychologically in the minds of those that live through it.

I am now convinced you are just trolling for reactions.

You can use that tactic - but it does not work on me. My point was that sometimes allegations really are baseless.

A man's nightmare made real - latimes.com

$55,000 and 8 months in solitary confinement - proven his ex girlfriend made everything up so she could get him "out of the picture".

---That was the point I was making.
 
You obviously have never been raped..... You have NO idea what goes on psychologically in the minds of those that live through it.

I am now convinced you are just trolling for reactions.

Unfortunately, I don't think he is.

That post was kind of out of the blue and somewhat disturbing.
 
You're the one who emphasized the money aspect, so that's what I addressed.


I never said anything about the association's insurance coverage.

I didn't emaphasize it, I simply have stated that the settlements were paid. Cain is the one that denied it, and then remembered it, and then tried to play semantics with it. TxGolfer is the one that suggested is was a severance package.
 
Is he President of the Association now?

I doubt seriously that he is going to be the President of anything now!:laugh2: But that has nothing to do with the fact that he was when the complaints were paid and the settlements were paid.
 
then said he recalled one, explaining he had been aware of an "agreement" but not a "settlement."

his client is barred from publicly relating her side because of a non-disclosure agreement she signed upon leaving the National Restaurant Association,

a second woman received a settlement of $35,000, or one year’s salary, after Cain made her uncomfortable working at the restaurant association,

Sounds like a what????

:laugh2:
 
Hmmm, Cain is such a terrible liar. Definitely not Presidential material. :lol:
 
I doubt seriously that he is going to be the President of anything now!:laugh2: But that has nothing to do with the fact that he was when the complaints were paid and the settlements were paid.

Then.....Steinhauser is right. How could he authorize the release of an agreement made by the Restaurant Assoc. if he is no longer President of the Assoc.????
 
You can use that tactic - but it does not work on me. My point was that sometimes allegations really are baseless.

A man's nightmare made real - latimes.com

$55,000 and 8 months in solitary confinement - proven his ex girlfriend made everything up so she could get him "out of the picture".

---That was the point I was making.

You are a disturbed individual. This thread is turning into a revictimize the victims. Disgusting.
 
Then.....Steinhauser is right. How could he authorize the release of an agreement made by the Restaurant Assoc. if he is no longer President of the Assoc.????

He can support their doing so. In fact, he can call for it. Instead, he has avoided it.
 
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