Wake Up Wal-Mart!

SJCSue said:
Unions are making a difference. With most of the economic benefits of our economy going to corporate America, working people are using the power of collective action to get their fair share.

Workers never got anything without uniting for it.

The 40-hour workweek
The 8-hour workday
Overtime
Sick Leave
Paid Vacation
Employer-paid health insurance
Pensions
Safety and health protections
Grievance procedure for wrongful discharge and discipline
Fairness in promotions
Higher wages

Imagine life without unions.
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I'm not in a union and I get all of the above.
 
i personally do not like walfart -- theyre not very enviromental friendly (taking away parcels of land for THEIR "profits" and etc) -- theyre fast becoming mcdonald's part 2 :ugh:
 
SJCSue said:
Workers never got anything without uniting for it.

The 40-hour workweek
The 8-hour workday
Overtime
Sick Leave
Paid Vacation
Employer-paid health insurance
Pensions
Safety and health protections
Grievance procedure for wrongful discharge and discipline
Fairness in promotions
Higher wages

Imagine life without unions.
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Pintnight, what Sue meant is that in the past, unions fought for these and won - and all this benefited all workers, both union and non-union. I don't belong to an union myself, not needing one...but there are many deafies here in my city that do belong to unions, and they do benefit from them.
 
DreamDeaf said:
Pintnight, what Sue meant is that in the past, unions fought for these and won - and all this benefited all workers, both union and non-union. I don't belong to an union myself, not needing one...but there are many deafies here in my city that do belong to unions, and they do benefit from them.
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Thanks, DreamDeaf! Yes, that is I were talking about. :D
 
Im TOTALLY opposed to unions! I have witness the destructive caused by unions.

FYI in Germany, they were almost 100% unionized, they got dark side... They have around 20% of unemployment rate, WHILE in America we got around 5% unemployment rate. So go figure wheather it is worth to have union or not.

Back in early 20th century, it DOES make sense having union because back then most corporation don't give sh*t about safety, thus union were formed to protest over safety. Now that safety issues are taken over by gov't agencies. Now that union is good for what? M O N E Y.

Now that my town utility company just turned union, and my utility bill skyrocket and I barely afford them. ALL BECAUSE UNION MEMBERS WANTS 100% free medical insurance! :fu2:

Now, look at big three, most of them are union, those worker don't give damn about quality of cars they make and want more MONEY MONEY MONEY. The cost of car is now out of reach for most of us, meanwhile Japanese don't have union and their employees care so much about the cars they produced and offer FAR better quality than big three cars!

Whats more, suppose you work in unionized shop and you work for say 2 years, and have been hard working. There is a guy who works with you and was with this company for 8 years, but is VERY lazy, slow worker than you. The union regulations requires this guy with 8 years gets more preferance than you, and gets more pay, and security (In event lay off is required, you are to be laid off, instead of this lazy bum. IS THIS FAIR???? I am sure no, but is this happening? OH YES!

Now you see why I am opposed to unions. PLUS I was refused to offer employment opportunity though union long time ago just because I can't hear. so :fu2:
 
diehardbiker65 said:
Im TOTALLY opposed to unions! I have witness the destructive caused by unions.

FYI in Germany, they were almost 100% unionized, they got dark side... They have around 20% of unemployment rate, WHILE in America we got around 5% unemployment rate. So go figure wheather it is worth to have union or not.

Back in early 20th century, it DOES make sense having union because back then most corporation don't give sh*t about safety, thus union were formed to protest over safety. Now that safety issues are taken over by gov't agencies. Now that union is good for what? M O N E Y.

Now that my town utility company just turned union, and my utility bill skyrocket and I barely afford them. ALL BECAUSE UNION MEMBERS WANTS 100% free medical insurance! :fu2:

Now, look at big three, most of them are union, those worker don't give damn about quality of cars they make and want more MONEY MONEY MONEY. The cost of car is now out of reach for most of us, meanwhile Japanese don't have union and their employees care so much about the cars they produced and offer FAR better quality than big three cars!

Whats more, suppose you work in unionized shop and you work for say 2 years, and have been hard working. There is a guy who works with you and was with this company for 8 years, but is VERY lazy, slow worker than you. The union regulations requires this guy with 8 years gets more preferance than you, and gets more pay, and security (In event lay off is required, you are to be laid off, instead of this lazy bum. IS THIS FAIR???? I am sure no, but is this happening? OH YES!

Now you see why I am opposed to unions. PLUS I was refused to offer employment opportunity though union long time ago just because I can't hear. so :fu2:
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good posting.. i believe union is starting to be worthless now than what they used to be before..

also i notice more unionized companies lay off people more than those non-unionized compaines
 
I agree that unions were important at a certain time and place in U.S. history. But time marches on. Now, there are other agencies, such as OSHA, DHEC, and FDA that supervise job health and safety, and laws that limit work hours, child labor, etc.

Many unions now are more interested in political power than workers' rights and benefits.
 
SJCSue said:
Unions are making a difference. With most of the economic benefits of our economy going to corporate America, working people are using the power of collective action to get their fair share.

Workers never got anything without uniting for it.

The 40-hour workweek
The 8-hour workday
Overtime
Sick Leave
Paid Vacation
Employer-paid health insurance
Pensions
Safety and health protections
Grievance procedure for wrongful discharge and discipline
Fairness in promotions
Higher wages

Imagine life without unions.
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True. The unions fought for these benefits way back in the 1930's. Everyone benefits from the Fair Labor laws that the unions fought to get passed in Congress (OSHA, the Minimum Wage, pension protections and basic benefits of the workplace)

Collective bargaining with the employers WORK when the members of the union get together to negotiate the contracts every 3 or so years. During my membership in the union (UNITE-HERE) I have participated in the contract voting sessions and even during one contract renewal year (1999, I think so) when the company proposed a RIDICULOUS raise of just 5/10 cents the union got into action passing out pendants with wooden cents for us to wear as protest at work. It sure DID get the company's attention and we FORCED them to up the raise to 40 cents first year and 30 cents/year for the rest of the 3 year contract.

One person can fight the good fight, BUT the power of MANY triumphs over the power of ONE. That is why I am proud to be involved with the union as they bring out their quest for justice in the workplace.
 
Exactly!

I almost joined teamster last spring. Back then I had to find job fast, and this unionized company offered me a job, but to get the job I need to pass dope test which I don't have plm with. Then another non-union company called me and offer me an interview. This call gave me very difficult decision because that non-unionized company have NOT offered me job yet. What makes my decision so difficult? Well this unionized company that already offered me a position has the WORST benefits, and WORST pay I EVER seen! $7.20 an hour, after one year of service I get 1 cute week paid vacation and that can NOT be carry over to the next year. No 401k matching plans, and other lousy offers I ever heard of. I decided to turn down that offer, even though I was not employed. I then took that interview, it was somewhat positive. But I had to keep bugging them to offer me the position. Took me 5 weeks after interview, OFC I was damn nervous because I had turned down that offer with lousy company. BUT I finally got an offer and was so thrilled. I got more out of from my company than this lowly teamster position! 2 weeks paid vacation in just 6 months, 3 sick/personal day paid in just 90 days, plus more pay, PLUS I get two I mean 2 retirement plan, the one have 401k matching vested immediately, and other one is pension plan, plus I get free contact lens from this company! There is much more my company has to offer. 2 of my 5 deaf co-worker had hard time wanting to leave my work! That is all because of excellent benefits... Is my company unionized? HELL NO!
I dunno exact how many deaf employees down there BUT I know there are at least 5, all on 3rd shift. I have no idea of 1, and 2nd shift, and other branches.

So I am glad I decided NOT to join stupid teamster!

Reba said:
Many unions now are more interested in political power than workers' rights and benefits.
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Unions CAN bankrupt the company! Good example here, I have a union company just a mile away from here. They are supplier for General Motors Corp. Union members refused the pay freeze, and this company struggling to get profit back on feet. But because union wants 25 to 30 dollars an hour, it used to have 3,000 employees. But just recently this company had declared completely bankruptcy and have no money left. Now is in process of shut down the company completely leaving 3,000 employees without job. Whats good is demand more pay?

As of right now, majority of employees gets average of 10 dollars an hour of wages, how do you EXPECT these majority of employees pay products that pays union 30 dollars an hour??? That is why I made attempt NOT to buy union products, they were overpriced, and lousy quality products.

Where do you think company gets money from? OFC from all of us! No money is grown on trees. Unfortnately majority of people THINK corporation have a waterfall made out of money.

Whats more, I noticed that these companies with high wages employees go out of business ALOT faster than those non-union low to moderate pay employees.

You could keep on fighting for more pay from your employer, BUT do NOT bet on your job security! You could be out of work before you realize.

sablescort said:
True. The unions fought for these benefits way back in the 1930's. Everyone benefits from the Fair Labor laws that the unions fought to get passed in Congress (OSHA, the Minimum Wage, pension protections and basic benefits of the workplace)

Collective bargaining with the employers WORK when the members of the union get together to negotiate the contracts every 3 or so years. During my membership in the union (UNITE-HERE) I have participated in the contract voting sessions and even during one contract renewal year (1999, I think so) when the company proposed a RIDICULOUS raise of just 5/10 cents the union got into action passing out pendants with wooden cents for us to wear as protest at work. It sure DID get the company's attention and we FORCED them to up the raise to 40 cents first year and 30 cents/year for the rest of the 3 year contract.

One person can fight the good fight, BUT the power of MANY triumphs over the power of ONE. That is why I am proud to be involved with the union as they bring out their quest for justice in the workplace.
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DeafSCUBA98 said:
i don't know why you're thinking walmart is ruining the enviroment.. i just got the facts about walmart.. they're spending millions of dollars to grow the wilderness out there.. check this out
http://www.walmartstores.com/wmstore/wmstores/Promos_Display.jsp?categoryOID=-8621&contentOID=14775

please note its not all wal-mart stores.. but they're spreading since its new idea... what other stores use solar power? or wind power?
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You do not have to quit your job. It does not bother me if you work for the company- except what Wal-mart did was very wrong . I love the idea of what the company is planning to use for electricity - for clean air, etc.

You forgot one thing - I still hate Wal-mart because this company always find a nature unused property, destroy it, and build its company. This nature is only for animals to live there, otherwise they will have difficult to find a place to live in the wild. That stupid company should have looked after a company that went bankrupt or for a sale so that it would have a chance for Wal-mart to buy and renovate the building. For example, I have seen 40 empty large stores (not industrial) for 6 years, and they are very good location for Wal-mart. I was an inspector....
 
Sure, but it is ALL about money in the first place. Which is cheaper, lease land and build outright on that land, OR Lease the land, pay for demolitian, then build new building on that existing property?

The real problem is demolitions. It is VERY costly, and the debris removal isn't cheap. No one wants to fill up landfill in their backyard, that is what cause higher expense.

Generally the owner of the land don't pay for the building, nor even demolitions as well. it is up to the leasee to do whatever on their land. It is VERY common practice nowadays.

webexplorer said:
For example, I have seen 40 empty large stores (not industrial) for 6 years, and they are very good location for Wal-mart. I was an inspector....
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diehardbiker65 said:
Sure, but it is ALL about money in the first place. Which is cheaper, lease land and build outright on that land, OR Lease the land, pay for demolitian, then build new building on that existing property?

The real problem is demolitions. It is VERY costly, and the debris removal isn't cheap. No one wants to fill up landfill in their backyard, that is what cause higher expense.

Generally the owner of the land don't pay for the building, nor even demolitions as well. it is up to the leasee to do whatever on their land. It is VERY common practice nowadays.
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In 2004, Walmart earned approxiately 200 billion dollars from around the world, and Sams Club made 900 million dollars. I assume that Wal-mart still cannot afford to buy the buildings.
 
I understand you clearly. But the truth is, are you WILLING to throw out your own money that don't do you favor?

If Im very rich, I will STILL be careful where my money goes, so that I won't go broke fast.

Also, the more money you have, the more money you WILL make.. if you throw out more money, the less money your gonna to get later on.

There is no easy around.

webexplorer said:
In 2004, Walmart earned approxiately 200 billion dollars from around the world, and Sams Club made 900 million dollars. I assume that Wal-mart still cannot afford to buy the buildings.
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i want to bring this up to topic back again...

Just want to say.. what i believe.. i believe that ALL wal-mart isn't the same.. i believe its depend indivually on its store manager and district managers..

i want to say.. i heard some wal-mart is terrible to its employees (even some ADers here).. like low pay wages..

however here at my store. where i work at they pay excellent.. i just got a merit raise of .50.. its just because i'm working hard and suffering haha.. but anyway i'm so happy with this 50 cents raise.. its just a reward raise not annually.

and frankly.. i'm proud of their insurance company blue cross blue shield of ILL. they help me alot with my dr visits and hosiptal visit.. they pay almost all of the cost.
 
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