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[Maria]

Well.. as its for me, I still don't agree for gay/lesbian to marry. That's like to me that ALL the "religions" are joinin' in ONE World Religion. That's a tsk tsk tsk God don't associate with Satan or the Dragon like ALL the religions do. I call it a "whore" or a "prostitute". That will take the people's true experience from God. That's called "lukewarm" ... God will spit it out for sure.

 

[Levonian]

There's no more "common sense" in this now days. It's all gone ...

So you’re saying that our forefathers had more "common sense" than we do? Let’s put some of that "common sense" into perspective:

http://www.zak.co.il/deaf-info/old/marriage.html#bell

Eugenics and cultural genocide hardly qualify as "common sense." Prohibition of marriage based on a physical or behavioral characteristic is not common sense—it is simply an expression of hatred of one’s own sexuality. Alexander Sutherland Neill once said that "sex with love is the greatest pleasure in the world, and it is repressed because it is the greatest pleasure. All else is evasion."

 

[Cheri]

Well.. as its for me, I still don't agree for gay/lesbian to marry. That's like to me that ALL the "religions" are joinin' in ONE World Religion. That's a tsk tsk tsk God don't associate with Satan or the Dragon like ALL the religions do. I call it a "whore" or a "prostitute". That will take the people's true experience from God. That's called "lukewarm" ... God will spit it out for sure.

Call what a whore or prostitute????

 

[Maria]

So you’re saying that our forefathers had more "common sense" than we do? Let’s put some of that "common sense" into perspective:

http://www.zak.co.il/deaf-info/old/marriage.html#bell

Eugenics and cultural genocide hardly qualify as "common sense." Prohibition of marriage based on a physical or behavioral characteristic is not common sense—it is simply an expression of hatred of one’s own sexuality. Alexander Sutherland Neill once said that "sex with love is the greatest pleasure that exists, and it is repressed because it is the greatest pleasure. All else is evasion."

Yeah, for you and others who agree on your comment, but not for God. Remma that God is so Perfect God and He never makes a single mistake like many people in their flesh do. God knows what is true and people don't know what is true... know why? Because, people who lives in the flesh revealed they are wide open-minded too far and their minds are "ungodly" ... not like God's. People don't know the difference, but God do. People are just like kids to God and they have a loooooong way to learn until the day comes they faces God. That's all there's to it. At the end, people will receive their answer.

 

[Maria]

Call what a whore or prostitute????

Should God and Satan/the Dragon should unite together as if it doesn't matter to ALL religions in ONE World Religion?

 

[Liza]

Yeah, for you and others who agree on your comment, but not for God. Remma that God is so Perfect God and He never makes a single mistake like many people in their flesh do. God knows what is true and people don't know what is true... know why? Because, people who lives in the flesh revealed they are wide open-minded too far and their minds are "ungodly" ... not like God's. People don't know the difference, but God do. People are just like kids to God and they have a loooooong way to learn until the day comes they faces God. That's all there's to it. At the end, people will receive their answer.

Are you saying you could be wrong, too? What if you have grossly misinterpreted what God or Jesus had been trying to teach us? The fact that we have a gay Bishop named Gene Robinson AND there are many branches of Christianity and Catholicism tells us that there are people who take different variations of the Bible seriously.

Therefore, there are some people who remain faithful to their religions who believe that GLBT should have the right to marry with full rights.

 

[Levonian]

Yeah, for you and others who agree on your comment, but not for God. Remma that God is so Perfect God and He never makes a single mistake like many people in their flesh do.

This is from the same web page:

St. Augustine (354-430 A.D.) taught that the deaf are excluded from salvation on the grounds that they cannot hear the Word of God, citing St. Paul: "So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing the Word of God (Romans 10:17). St. Augustine also taught that handicapped children were the results of the "sins" of their parents.

So where does that leave us? St. Augustine couldn’t have made a boo-boo, could he? He was a saint—he’s supposed to have a direct line to The Boss. So we’re all going to hell? Sure looks like it—it says so right there in the manual.

 

[MilitaryGirl83]

God loves us all no matter who we are. I do agree that Goverment and religion should be seprated period or it will mess up everything. I am a christian and I do support gay marriage. I believe that the gay/lesbian/bisexual people do have the right to marry as much as the straight people do. What's so wrong about loving eachother? What's so wrong about loving the same sex, different races, etc? Nothing wrong with it!!!!!!!!!


On the other hand, I believe that God is very loving and caring.. he loves us all no matter what. But I also believe that God is mysterious in so many ways.

 

[sablescort]

God loves us all no matter who we are. I do agree that Goverment and religion should be seprated period or it will mess up everything. I am a christian and I do support gay marriage. I believe that the gay/lesbian/bisexual people do have the right to marry as much as the straight people do. What's so wrong about loving eachother? What's so wrong about loving the same sex, different races, etc? Nothing wrong with it!!!!!!!!!


On the other hand, I believe that God is very loving and caring.. he loves us all no matter what. But I also believe that God is mysterious in so many ways.

AMEN! You just hit it right on the nail!

 

[Cheri]

Should God and Satan/the Dragon should unite together as if it doesn't matter to ALL religions in ONE World Religion?

You are way of topic here we not discuss about God and Satan or the Dragon we talking about lesbian and gay marriage what does that have to do with lesbian and gay marriage??

 

[Maria]

Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

Main Entry: 1ef·fem·i·nate
Pronunciation: -n&t
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin effeminatus, from past participle of effeminare to make effeminate, from ex- + femina woman -- more at FEMININE
1 : having feminine qualities untypical of a man : not manly in appearance or manner
2 : marked by an unbecoming delicacy or overrefinement <effeminate art> <an effeminate civilization>

Jude 1:7 (KJV)

"Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire."

2 Peter 2:6 (KJV)

"And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly ..."

Clearly, the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah were condemned and destroyed for the practice of immorality (fornication, and going after "strange flesh" in the KJV) a sin consistently condemned in the Scriptures. Peter says that Sodom and Gomorrah were an "ensample" a word meaning "pattern" for those who should live "ungodly," meaning that homosexuality is the sin that set forth the example (pattern) that God will not tolerate. God will not tolerate fornication (which is a word which includes "homosexuality") or any other sexual sin.

There are two words in the New Testament that directly address this issue, they are both found in 1 Corinthians 6:9 (as well as other places), please consider the following verse:

1 Corinthians 6:9 (KJV)

"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor *effeminate (1), nor *abusers (2) of themselves with mankind ..."(KJV)

1 Cor. 6:9 - effeminate = (means, according to the lexicons and translations)

malakos {mal-ak-os'} translated as in the following versions:

(nor effeminate) - KJV (in the KJVas: soft 3, effeminate 1)

*done with soapbox*

 

[Angel]

I am glad I kept my Religion out of this....I know what the Bible says....and I also know how to keep my belief to myself ....

I also believe that Goverment and Religion should not mix together as Every One does NOT share the same belief....get it?

U seem to be forgetting that lately CyberRed...( As God would have it....Don't force people to have the same belief as you do )....

The main Point of this Topic is ' Banned gay Marriage'....How can the Goverment taken away someone's right because they happen to be gay and not allowing to get marry to each other....that not American ....sure its not FREEDOM to me!

 

[Maria]

I am glad I kept my Religion out of this....I know what the Bible says....and I also know how to keep my belief to myself ....

I also believe that Goverment and Religion should not mix together as Every One does NOT share the same belief....get it?

U seem to be forgetting that lately CyberRed...( As God would have it....Don't force people to have the same belief as you do )....

The main Point of this Topic is ' Banned gay Marriage'....How can the Goverment taken away someone's right because they happen to be gay and not allowing to get marry to each other....that not American ....sure its not FREEDOM to me!

Whooa...Excuse me, don't start. I am just sayin' what God says. That's all. I am not forcin' them to have the same belief as I do. Like I said earlier in this forum that they have their own choices. So, pls don't point at me. It's God's Word, not mine. Get it ?

 

[Angel]

Well, I do believe that we should put God first before the Government, not the Government first. We have to know what is right in the eyes of God, and then we will know WHAT the laws are right. By puttin' Government first before God,

That is forcing the American people to put God first before Government when not Every ONE believe in the same Religion ...

That's why I said as above!...

 

[Cheri]

Whooa...Excuse me, don't start. I am just sayin' what God says. That's all. I am not forcin' them to have the same belief as I do. Like I said earlier in this forum that they have their own choices. So, pls don't point at me. It's God's Word, not mine. Get it ?

I wasnt going to say anything but.. I cant sit here watching u changing ur story around.. first of all u said God should come first before Government who 's words are those yours or God? and U said...Well.. as its for me, I still don't agree for gay/lesbian to marry. That's like to me that ALL the "religions" are joinin' in ONE World Religion. That's a tsk tsk tsk God don't associate with Satan or the Dragon like ALL the religions do. I call it a "whore" or a "prostitute". That will take the people's true experience from God. That's called "lukewarm" ... God will spit it out for sure. If God says that and not you then why are u bringing God in this Thread about Lesbian and Gay Marriage? Sometimes you don't remember what u say or said...

 

[Maria]

That is forcing the American people to put God first before Government when not Every ONE believe in the same Religion ...

That's why I said as above!...

God comes first, yes because that would make the world less problems. That's my perception. You put the Devil first before God to allow the evil to rise tsk tsk tsk And of course, I know that everyone don't believe in the same religion. It's why I don't make a decision for them when I posted about "free-will" somewhere in thread. Don't forget my words that I posted in thread.

 

[Cheri]

God comes first, yes because that would make the world less problems. That's my perception. You put the Devil first before God to allow the evil to rise tsk tsk tsk And of course, I know that everyone don't believe in the same religion. It's why I don't make a decision for them when I posted about "free-will" somewhere in thread. Don't forget my words that I posted in thread.

How is Angel a devil? explain that?

 

[Maria]

I wasnt going to say anything but.. I cant sit here watching u changing ur story around.. first of all u said God should come first before Government who 's words are those yours or God? and U said...Well.. as its for me, I still don't agree for gay/lesbian to marry. That's like to me that ALL the "religions" are joinin' in ONE World Religion. That's a tsk tsk tsk God don't associate with Satan or the Dragon like ALL the religions do. I call it a "whore" or a "prostitute". That will take the people's true experience from God. That's called "lukewarm" ... God will spit it out for sure. If God says that and not you then why are u bringing God in this Thread about Lesbian and Gay Marriage? Sometimes you don't remember what u say or said...

That's right. I don't agree for gay/lesbian to marry, because it is against God's Word. I don't change my story around. It's always the same in one book that says it all. You and Angel ... Let me tell you girls, this is my view, opinion, and what I've learned from my experience. For some of others like me, they don't agree for gay/lesbian to marry either. You both girls can't point at me individually that I am all wrong, just because of what you don't agree with what God says.

 

[Angel]

God comes first, yes because that would make the world less problems. That's my perception. You put the Devil first before God to allow the evil to rise tsk tsk tsk And of course, I know that everyone don't believe in the same religion. It's why I don't make a decision for them when I posted about "free-will" somewhere in thread. Don't forget my words that I posted in thread.

...

I am not putting Devil First....I am simply keeping my religion to myself and IF you would 'read' a bit more carefully, I'm saying simply we can't FORCE others to believe in God first...for myself, I know where I stand with my God, it just seems like this is getting way out of hand here everytime you apparently don't carefully READ the exact point of what I'm coming across here....

No offense whatsoever...

 

[Maria]

How is Angel a devil? explain that?

Well, the way I see in her words that she choses to put the "devil" first before God, because she choses to allow the "evil" to grow against God by allowin' gay/lesbian to marry ... do you think that God will allow that? To me, I don't think it is right. God don't please that. For you both girls, I have nothin' against you both since you both are more than welcome to believe whateva it is to you. Remma my post somewhere in thread about "free-will" ? I am here to share my opinion, view and experience. No hard feelings here.