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Ohio shooter upset at teachers, boy’s uncle says

Ohio shooter upset at teachers, boy’s uncle says
Official: Cleveland to place metal detectors, guards at all schools in district

CLEVELAND - The 14-year-old who opened fire at his high school had been upset with teachers, saying they wouldn’t listen to his side of the story regarding a recent after-school scuffle that got him suspended, the teenager’s uncle said Friday.

Larry Looney, who lived upstairs from Asa Coon in a duplex, said the two were lifting weights Tuesday when the boy told him about Monday’s fight with another student and his three-day suspension.

“He really didn’t want to talk about it,” Looney said. “He said he really didn’t do anything to start it. He said the teachers wouldn’t listen to his side of the story.

“I just can’t believe he would do anything like that.”

Coon shot two teachers and two students Wednesday at SuccessTech Academy then committed suicide. All the shooting victims survived. One teacher remained hospitalized Friday in good condition.

Schools CEO Eugene Sanders said Friday that the school district would place metal detectors and security guards in all schools in response to the shooting spree. Metal detectors had been used intermittently at SuccessTech, and none were operating Wednesday.

The school will reopen Tuesday, Sanders said. It will host an open house Monday evening for parents and students to discuss safety issues, and every other school in the district will also have a safety assembly for students.

Uncle: Shooter bullied, picked on
Looney, 48, said his nephew was bullied and picked on his entire life and was thrilled to be accepted into SuccessTech, viewing it as his only chance to escape the daily beatings he took. Coon told him recently that he was having problems with some students at SuccessTech, an alternative high school in the Cleveland district that stresses technology and entrepreneurship for high-achieving students.

Looney wondered whether his nephew grew despondent that things weren’t working out at the school.

“He really had high hopes because he knew ... this was his best chance, this was the safest type of environment,” Looney said.

Students have said Coon recently threatened to blow up the school, but they did not take his threats seriously. Students said teachers knew about the threats but did nothing.

Looney never heard Coon make any threats against the school and never saw any warning signs. He said his nephew was an angry child, which Looney attributed to the bullying he received.

“When he was younger, he used to deal with his problems by tearing up his room,” he said.

Counseling helped shooter
A few years ago, Coon talked about suicide and received counseling, which seemed to help. “After a while, he got to where he didn’t feel like that anymore,” Looney said.

He got good grades the previous two school years, received the required recommendations from school personnel and was accepted at SuccessTech for his freshman year.

“He wanted to go to a school where he didn’t get bullied. Where he could learn,” Looney said. “He liked to have sophisticated conversations with people. He was way beyond his years.”

roughed up
As a teen who read “War and Peace” and had opinions on global warming and world issues, he was different, and that’s why he was picked on, Looney said.

He routinely got roughed up after school, coming home with scratches and bruises. Looney witnessed some of the beatings as his nephew walked down the street.

“They’d be like a pack of dogs surrounding him. It was brutal,” he said. Coon wouldn’t allow his family to intervene, saying it would only make things worse.

Juvenile court records show Coon also had a tough home life. He came from a poor home and was the subject of a juvenile court neglect case at age 4. When he was 12, Coon was charged in juvenile court with domestic violence, accused of attacking his mother.

Coon and his mother had a poor relationship and used foul and abusive language toward each other, according to his probation officer.

Coon, who is white, stood out in a school that is 85 percent black by wearing a black trench coat, black boots, a dog collar, chains and a glove. Coon’s neighbor Linda Lacey had seen Coon in “gothic” garb, but added that more often she had seen him in a pair of blue jeans and a T-shirt.

Looney said Coon had few friends and that most of them were black. He didn’t believe the shooting had anything to do with race.

“He got mad if someone would say something about someone’s ethnicity,” Looney said.

Uncle thought he was beat to death

When Looney first heard that Coon was dead, he immediately thought that someone finally beat him to death. When he heard the whole story from his sister Lori, Coon’s mother, he was shocked, and drew relief only from the survival of the wounded teachers and students.

“Things go through your mind. Why didn’t I see this?” he said.

He recalls a kid who a few weeks ago cleaned an older woman’s yard across the street, without pay and without being asked. He said his nephew played 1,500 games of chess with him before winning one at age 11 or 12, then defeated his uncle, who taught him the game, about 60 percent of the time and won a citywide chess tournament in December.

The last time Looney saw his nephew, Coon was leaving his home Tuesday after their weightlifting session.

“He said, ’Thanks, uncle, for helping me work out. I appreciate it,”’ Looney recalled. “I said, ’I’ll see you tomorrow.”’

Sporting events involving Cleveland schools resumed Friday and the district asked for a moment of silence at each event to mark the tragedy. Athletics Commissioner Leonard Jackson said extra security guards and police were assigned to each game to make fans and players comfortable returning to their routines.

“We just want to be more vigilant,” he said.


Uncle: Ohio shooter upset at teachers - Crime & Punishment - MSNBC.com
 
*smh* The teacher should had listen to his side of the story, there's always two sides to every story and the truth..

This happened to my son as well....Here's the story:

As I remember when my son was in 5Th grade, He got suspended for something he did not do, What happened was recess right after lunch, he was out on the playground with the other students playing a round of basketball game, two other student go into a fight with each others, My son stepped in to split those two up from fighting each others, one teacher took three boys in the principals office all three got 2 days in-school suspensions


My son tried to tell the principal he was no way involved in the fight, but instead of listening to his story the principal automatically suspended my son for two days.

That afternoon after school, my son came home cried his eyes out, telling me the story what happened at school and how he got suspended. I was so disappointing that the school did not give my son a chance for his story to be told.

The following next school day, I decide to go with my son to his school, and talked to the principal, brought in the other two boys who were involved in the fight that got suspended, both boys claimed that my son was not involved.

The principal apologized for the mistake that was made, and withdraw the suspension.
 
The following next school day, I decide to go with my son to his school, and talked to the principal, brought in the other two boys who were involved in the fight that got suspended, both boys claimed that my son was not involved.

The principal apologized for the mistake that was made, and withdraw the suspension.
Good for you for going back to talk to the principle! I'm sure your son felt wonderful because you believed in him enough to go and talk to the principle. :)
 
Good for you for going back to talk to the principle! I'm sure your son felt wonderful because you believed in him enough to go and talk to the principle. :)

Exactly !!!

I agreed that teacher should take BOTH sides to listen instead of one side... Now they got the problem from their students. *sigh*
 
*smh* The teacher should had listen to his side of the story, there's always two sides to every story and the truth..

This happened to my son as well....Here's the story:

As I remember when my son was in 5Th grade, He got suspended for something he did not do, What happened was recess right after lunch, he was out on the playground with the other students playing a round of basketball game, two other student go into a fight with each others, My son stepped in to split those two up from fighting each others, one teacher took three boys in the principals office all three got 2 days in-school suspensions


My son tried to tell the principal he was no way involved in the fight, but instead of listening to his story the principal automatically suspended my son for two days.

That afternoon after school, my son came home cried his eyes out, telling me the story what happened at school and how he got suspended. I was so disappointing that the school did not give my son a chance for his story to be told.

The following next school day, I decide to go with my son to his school, and talked to the principal, brought in the other two boys who were involved in the fight that got suspended, both boys claimed that my son was not involved.

The principal apologized for the mistake that was made, and withdraw the suspension.
You must be proud of your son!

Anyway, I don't understand why schools tend to neglect students' voice of concern and story most of time. They always believe teachers/staffs first. I went through 4 bad years of high school. Our half-assed principal did not give a damn about us. The administration hired him without even consulting us and asking how we will feel about that. As a result this was the lowest point this school has ever gone to. The school tend to follow the staffs' stories, which students' stories also give out some true information.

If they want to keep the school up and running, listen to the students' concerns. They're going there to be educated, not getting patronized or oppressed, especially by teachers/staffs and the principal!
 
You must be proud of your son!

I am very proud, ;) I taught both of my sons, that education is their priority goal to learn and be in their best behavior. My oldest son hasn't gotten in trouble for the whole 7 years of school as my youngest son has.. tsk tsk!! I'm working on improvement with the little one on his behavior with playing around too much and not focusing on education. I don't expect them to be perfect but I do expect them to do their best and do the right thing, knowing about right and wrong. I expect them to be honest with me always no matter how bad it is.



Anyway, I don't understand why schools tend to neglect students' voice of concern and story most of time. They always believe teachers/staffs first. I went through 4 bad years of high school. Our half-assed principal did not give a damn about us. The administration hired him without even consulting us and asking how we will feel about that. As a result this was the lowest point this school has ever gone to. The school tend to follow the staffs' stories, which students' stories also give out some true information.

If they want to keep the school up and running, listen to the students' concerns. They're going there to be educated, not getting patronized or oppressed, especially by teachers/staffs and the principal!

I'm with you all the way, the world would be a much better place if people learn to listen.

I've came to noticed from time to time that the school always slides up with the teachers more than the students, in my opinion I find that unfair. I believe they should always listen to both sides with a nonjudgmental

Aimra said:
Good for you for going back to talk to the principle! I'm sure your son felt wonderful because you believed in him enough to go and talk to the principle

I'm most positive sure he would want me to believe in him as he believes in me. I'll always be there for both of my boys, with support and backing up.
 
Good for you for going back to talk to the principle! I'm sure your son felt wonderful because you believed in him enough to go and talk to the principle. :)

Do you mean "principle" as in the principle of the matter or do you mean "principal" the man with the board of education in his office?
 
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Pek1 - I think me and you need to start an unofficial AD Newsletter since we both enjoy writing.

As for your son breaking up the fight - atta boy! Amazing how one kid steps up and decides to be the adult when everyone else is acting like 3 year olds. You must be very proud of your son. I know I would be!

As for teachers and administrators not listening to the kids story - been there and done that. I supposedly cussed out the Superintendent of my school during my seinor year.

Here's what really happened:
I got to school late that morning and there were no parking spaces available in the student parking lot (teachers were bad to park in the STUDENT lot) so I decided to park across the street in the church parking lot, BUT I parked under the carport so I wouldn't get busted for parking there right off by the school officer. And even if I did, at least I had a legit reason as to why. Well I went out to my truck during lunch break to retrieve some books for my afternoon class when the superintendent drove up and said: You can't park here - I said oh yes I can if there's no other parking available. You need to tell your teachers to quit parking in the STUDENT lot. He just looked at me puzzling and said - I dont want to hear whatever exscuse you've got just dont park over here.
I just cut him a dirty look like - you done f-ed with the wrong woman! I didnt say anything but I did give him a look that could scare your momma. He rolled his eyes at me and drove off. He knew he was wrong but couldnt bring himself to admit it.

So anyway I went uptown to my lunch break and I met one of my friends who worked in the administration building and told her what happened and my opinion of it which was the superintendent could just kiss my ass because I cant help it if there's not enough parking available when TEACHERS park in the STUEDENT parking lot.

Well she went back to work, I went to my afternoon internship. I got a message from my boss that I was supposed to go straight to the school right after work. I thought ok dad wants something. So I sort of blew if off and thought whatever it was - it could wait til I got home since it was a Tuesday and I had to stay in Russellville until 7 and it was almost 8 when I got home.

The next day my dad pulls me aside and says: Youre going to cost me my job and I am like WTF?? Why would I want you fired - your job pays the bills. And he told me this:

That I actually told the superintendent to his face to kiss my ass over the parking issues.

I burst out laughing I thought 'Oh god, this is getting hilarious. Someone's twisted this up big time and dad caught wind of it.' I told dad what really happened and he still wasnt amused but grateful that I at least didnt say it to his face. But he drug me out like a little kid marched me down to the library and made me apologize for what I said. I did apologize for using my first amendment rights off school property, outside school hours, in a conversation with a school employee that was on an unpaid lunch break at the same time I was. He cut me a look like 'Girl, you've got more spine than some of my teachers do but I still don't like your attitude.' I was eventually slapped with a week of in-school suspension over the whole thing. You know what the bad thing about it was? It completely made him look like an ass when word of the TRUE story leaked out and students were protesting. I couldn't believe it. Some were tried to get me to sue him for all he was worth. I said nah - his guilt will do more revenge than any law suit ever could. He retired from the position 2 weeks after I graduated. Besides, why muttle up a college career with a lawsuit I might not win?

Word got back to the church they were shocked that little bible thumper me could actually have an opinion - of course it wasnt the first or last - but it damn sure was the most memorable.
 
There is indeed no need for competition, but why write the title like that? Why say "only in America?" I take offense to that statement as it defeats the spirit of being non-competitive. I am sure there are murderers of all ages that aren't in America, and most of these things don't even get publicity I bet. There are good people in USA who are trying to change things (not everyone is like Ann Coulter! LOL), and I feel you lumped them in with that violent kid.. yes, I can see what you are frustrated with, but that statement was completely unfair to the rest of us who really want to change things for the better in USA. It is easy to worry about stuff that gets headlined in the news, because they are trying to sell sensation.. but it just shocks people, and distract them from real issues.

What about the poverty and genocides that happen in Africa and other countries, indeed? Women do not even have equal human rights, and can be killed to preserve a family's so called "honor" in Pakistan. I am sure women, men, and children get raped elsewhere in the world, and that is fucked up too. It is the darkest recesses of human nature, regardless of our nationality and age that comes out - America just gets more publicity about it.

There is a buddhist quote about creating inner peace in order to create world peace, so it definitely has to start with each of us at home anywhere in the world.

You got that right,, totally agree with you 110% on that issues. It is sad and that true.
 
I can understand that america is the land of freedom and the freedom of speech too. But america is not perfect like any other counties all over the world. Life do sucks sometimes and it never easy. America is great that we can choose our life style, work, goals and dreams. But we do pay bills, taxes, and food on the table. Money don't grow on trees just because we are from america. I am sure other countries have problems too.
 
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Pek1 - I think me and you need to start an unofficial AD Newsletter since we both enjoy writing.

As for your son breaking up the fight - atta boy! Amazing how one kid steps up and decides to be the adult when everyone else is acting like 3 year olds. You must be very proud of your son. I know I would be!

As for teachers and administrators not listening to the kids story - been there and done that. I supposedly cussed out the Superintendent of my school during my seinor year.

Here's what really happened:
I got to school late that morning and there were no parking spaces available in the student parking lot (teachers were bad to park in the STUDENT lot) so I decided to park across the street in the church parking lot, BUT I parked under the carport so I wouldn't get busted for parking there right off by the school officer. And even if I did, at least I had a legit reason as to why. Well I went out to my truck during lunch break to retrieve some books for my afternoon class when the superintendent drove up and said: You can't park here - I said oh yes I can if there's no other parking available. You need to tell your teachers to quit parking in the STUDENT lot. He just looked at me puzzling and said - I dont want to hear whatever exscuse you've got just dont park over here.
I just cut him a dirty look like - you done f-ed with the wrong woman! I didnt say anything but I did give him a look that could scare your momma. He rolled his eyes at me and drove off. He knew he was wrong but couldnt bring himself to admit it.

So anyway I went uptown to my lunch break and I met one of my friends who worked in the administration building and told her what happened and my opinion of it which was the superintendent could just kiss my ass because I cant help it if there's not enough parking available when TEACHERS park in the STUEDENT parking lot.

Well she went back to work, I went to my afternoon internship. I got a message from my boss that I was supposed to go straight to the school right after work. I thought ok dad wants something. So I sort of blew if off and thought whatever it was - it could wait til I got home since it was a Tuesday and I had to stay in Russellville until 7 and it was almost 8 when I got home.

The next day my dad pulls me aside and says: Youre going to cost me my job and I am like WTF?? Why would I want you fired - your job pays the bills. And he told me this:

That I actually told the superintendent to his face to kiss my ass over the parking issues.

I burst out laughing I thought 'Oh god, this is getting hilarious. Someone's twisted this up big time and dad caught wind of it.' I told dad what really happened and he still wasnt amused but grateful that I at least didnt say it to his face. But he drug me out like a little kid marched me down to the library and made me apologize for what I said. I did apologize for using my first amendment rights off school property, outside school hours, in a conversation with a school employee that was on an unpaid lunch break at the same time I was. He cut me a look like 'Girl, you've got more spine than some of my teachers do but I still don't like your attitude.' I was eventually slapped with a week of in-school suspension over the whole thing. You know what the bad thing about it was? It completely made him look like an ass when word of the TRUE story leaked out and students were protesting. I couldn't believe it. Some were tried to get me to sue him for all he was worth. I said nah - his guilt will do more revenge than any law suit ever could. He retired from the position 2 weeks after I graduated. Besides, why muttle up a college career with a lawsuit I might not win?

Word got back to the church they were shocked that little bible thumper me could actually have an opinion - of course it wasnt the first or last - but it damn sure was the most memorable.

:applause: Little bible thumper you, huh? Loved the story, Dixie! Although I don't think there was anything that was suable, you stood up for the correct story. The teachers in my high school had their own lot on the south side of the high school and the kids had the north lot. Buses came and went on the teachers side, while the students side went out to the stadium area.

As for our newsletter . . . that would be a lot of fun! What's your ideology and what direction do you lean politically, because I'd rather be in agreement politically and drive some of the others crazy that are opposite of us. :giggle:
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