Abuse in Gay Relationships

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Somebody shared a story about her ex male lovers abused her...
And she felt safer with a female love companion.
Abuse happened to any kind of relationships.

Tuesday February 15, 2005 at 11:54 PM

Abuse a reality for gay couples
By Hillary Chabot and J.J. Huggins

Sean Fitzgerald, 38, said domestic abuse happens in gay relationships just as much as it is does in heterosexual relationships.
But many gay men don't feel comfortable reporting abuse.

Fitzgerald was a close friend of Ryan Curtis, who was shot and killed by Leominster attorney Stephen CampoBasso on Feb. 7. :shock:

:eek2: CampoBasso, a lawyer from a prominent Leominster family, killed himself hours later, according to Worcester County District Attorney John Conte.

CampoBasso and Curtis were engaged to be married, according to friends. :|

"It's just like the heterosexual world, but no one wants to talk about it," Fitzgerald said.

"Until everything comes out in the open and people feel free to express themselves, I don't think they'll want to talk about it," Fitzgerald said.

He said societal expectations about men and women also affect how officials, friends and family deal with same-sex abuse.

"We teach our children it's OK to beat up on each other as long as they're the same sex," Fitzgerald said. "As a man you're taught to never hit a girl, but if a man confronts you, you kill him, man."

Curt Rogers, founder and director of Gay Men Domestic Violence in Boston, said many gay men don't report abuse to police because they are worried about possible homophobia.
"It can be harder to go to the police for help, because of real or perceived homophobia. Our whole society is set up to view domestic violence as between a man and a woman," Rogers said. "Less than 2 percent of gay men view the police or district attorney's office as a resource to help if they are being abused."
Curtis had been dating CampoBasso for almost a year before the murder-suicide, and they had gotten engaged in October. The couple had just come back from a two-week vacation in January.
Fitzgerald said he met CampoBasso several times and stayed in touch with Curtis when he moved in with CampoBasso. He said he wasn't aware of any abuse between Curtis, 29, and CampoBasso, 53.
"Ryan wasn't the type of person to accept negativity or defeat in anything, though," Fitzgerald said. "Even if things weren't going well, he'd say everything was wonderful."

Hidden abuse
Rogers said many gay men hide abuse in a relationship because they are ashamed.
"Oftentimes abuse in the relationship is hidden," Rogers said. "The big thing that happens in domestic violence is people get isolated, and it can be reinforced by the shame of what's going on."
Rogers said when an extremely violent incident occurs, like a murder-suicide, it is usually an indication that abuse existed in the relationship.
"My guess is any time you have a situation like that there probably was domestic violence involved, but there really is no way to tell," Rogers said.
Gay men sometimes don't recognize they are being abused and therefore don't look for help, Rogers said.
"I'm a survivor. I went through a long, abusive relationship, but I never realized it because I always thought of domestic abuse as wife-beating," Rogers said. "Until an advisor told me I was a victim in an abusive relationship, I didn't think of myself that way. That lack of self-identification is a problem when it comes to stopping abuse."

Rogers said statistics on gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgender domestic abuse have shown that there is abuse in roughly 25 to 30 percent of gay relationships.

The same percentage of domestic abuse occurs in heterosexual relationships, Rogers said.

"It's really pretty much the same," Rogers said. "The similarities between heterosexual abusive couples and homosexual abusive relationships outweigh the differences."

Rogers said he believes people are abusive due to power and control issues, and not because of their gender.

"My own perspective is abusers have a whole range of options they'll use to manipulate the other person. They'll use whatever they can to gain power," Rogers said.

Fitchburg Police Chief Edward F. Cronin said he thinks violent incidents between homosexual couples and heterosexual couples are equally brutal.
"I think it's just as nasty. They can be just as violent as heterosexuals," Cronin said. "I think the dynamics are identical. It's about power and control."
Gay men, if they can't be physically overpowered, could also be verbally or emotionally abused, Rogers said.
"They will leverage anything they have around them to manipulate the other person," Rogers said.
Fitzgerald said he learned to fight verbally when he was younger to protect himself.
"The only strength you have is your tongue. We learned very quickly how to verbally hurt somebody. I can make them feel not worthy in seconds, because that's how I could protect myself," Fitzgerald said.

Reported abuse on the rise

Joan Mullahy, domestic violence advocate at the Leominster Police department, said she has seen the amount of gay or lesbian domestic abuse reported go up.
"I've worked here for four years, and I could count on two hands the number of gay or lesbian domestics I've been made aware of," Mullahy said. "But in the last month I've had two or three reported."
Mullahy said she handles gay domestic abuse the same as any other domestic abuse, but said there are less resources for gay victims who want to leave their partner.
"There really aren't any resources out this way. All of the referrals I make are to places in Boston or Cambridge," Mullahy said.
Mullahy attended an all-day conference to learn how to deal with gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender abuse situations.
"I'm the only one here, so the more I learn the more I can pass on," Mullahy said. "We're trying to get it out in the open so people will be more comfortable dealing with it."
Fitchburg Police Sgt. Glenn C. Fossa said Fitchburg police treat domestic violence on a "case-by-case" basis.
"We look to get the person the right resource to match their need, whether it's a shelter to get them away from the abusing mate ... or medical attention," Fossa said.
Cronin said the Commonwealth has "very strong, healthy laws to protect people" from domestic abuse.
"Massachusetts has very strong laws against domestic violence," Cronin said.
But it is up to the victim to come forward, Cronin said.
"It's up to the individual to know when they are in danger," Cronin said.
There are at least four cities in Massachusetts where the police department assigns specific officers to deal with issues regarding gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender citizens.
The cities include Boston, Cambridge, Springfield and Northampton.
Northampton is the closest in size out of the four cities to Fitchburg and Leominster, with about 28,978 residents, based on the federal government's last census in 2000.
Northampton Police Sgt. Ken Watson, a police officer of 23 years, said he came out of the closet and told his coworkers he was gay a few years ago. His chief later appointed him to the position he holds now, which is the community liaison for gay, lesbian and bisexual citizens.

Linking to the community

Watson said he serves as a "link" between the police and the gay and lesbian community in Northampton.
He said he has experience with domestic violence based on working as a patrol officer and responding to domestic fights.
"They are a little more difficult to identify," he said about violence in same-sex couples. "A lot of times there is mutual fighting because of somebody defending themselves. It makes it a little more difficult for us."
In a heterosexual relationship, "by and large the abuser is a male," he said.
Homosexuals are less likely to admit they are being abused by a partner if they are not open about their sexuality, according to Watson.
"It has to do with their own fear. If they're not 'out,' then to reach out for any kind of restraining order is not going to work," he said.
Cronin agreed it is more difficult for a person who is in the closet about their sexuality to tell people that they're being abused.
"When a person wants to come forward, they have to 'out' themselves. It intrudes on their privacy," Cronin said. "That can play into a situation where an aggressor can be even more in control."
Cronin said he thinks now that gay marriage is legal in Massachusetts, homosexual victims of domestic violence will be more likely to report abuse.
"Because of the law, gay people are allowed to be married. As the legal status grows, more people will have access to the services," he said.

Asking for help

Rogers said men can try and avoid tragic incidents like the recent murder-suicide by sharing with friends and family what is going on.
"If you start to talk to put out that lifeline, you can get a reality check. If people hear you were abused for the third time, where you might rationalize it, they might question you about it," Rogers said.
Rogers said anyone being abused should begin thinking about a safety plan.
"If you know someone is violent, and you began to have an argument in the kitchen, that's a bad place to be," Rogers said. "If you're even starting to think about leaving, pack a bag with your essential papers and keep it somewhere they won't find it."
Rogers encouraged anyone who thinks they might need help to call an advisor at Gay Men Domestic Violence toll free at (800) 832-1901.


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Lesbian Abuse

Abuse in Same-Sex Relationships


Nature of Abuse:

Abuse in relationships is any behavior or pattern of behavior used to coerce, dominate or isolate the other partner. It is the use of any form of power that is imposed by one partner over the other to maintain control within the relationship.

Common Myths About Abuse in Lesbian Relationships:

"Women are not abusive - only men are."

Anyone can choose to be abusive or not.

"Lesbians are always equal in relationships. It is not abuse, it is a relationship struggle."

Two women in a relationship do not automatically guarantee equality. Relationship struggles are never equal if abuse is involved.

"Abusive lesbians are more "butch," larger, apolitical or have social lives that revolve around the bar culture."

Abuse occurs regardless of race, class, religion, age, political affiliation, lifestyle, or physical attributes.

"Lesbian violence is caused by drugs, alcohol, stress, childhood abuse."

While these factors can be important, they do not excuse the abuse.

"Lesbian abusers have been abused/oppressed by men are therefore not as responsible for what they do."

This is an excuse; abuse will only stop when responsibility is taken for the abuse.

"It is easier for a lesbian to leave her abusive partner that it is for a heterosexual woman to leave her abusive partner."

It is never easy to leave an abusive relationship.

Common Myths About Abuse in Gay Male Relationships:

"Gay men are rarely victims of abuse by their partners."

Men can be and are abused. This myth makes it particularly hard for men to come forward for help.

"When violence occurs between gay men in a relationship, it's a fight, it's normal, it's 'boys will be boys.'"

Using violence or 'taking it' is not normal; it is an unhealthy way to relate to others.

"Abuse in gay male relationships primarily involves apolitical gay men, or gay men who are part of the bar culture."

Abuse occurs regardless of race, class, religion, age, political affiliation or life style.

"Abuse in gay male relationships is sexual behavior: it's a version of sadomasochism and the victims actually like it."

In s/m there are mutually agreed upon verbal contracts between the involved parties. No such contract exists between an abuser and his victim.*

"It is easier for a gay man to leave his abusive partner that it is for a heterosexual woman to leave her abusive partner."

It is never easy to leave an abusive relationship.

*This applies to lesbian relationships as well.

Abuse in Same-Sex Relationships Versus Abuse in Opposite-Sex Relationships:

What is the Same:

Abuse is always the responsibility of the abuser and is always a choice.

Victims are often blamed for the abuse by partners, and sometimes even family, friends and professionals can excuse or minimize the abusive behavior.

It is difficult for victims to leave abusive relationships.

Abuse is not an acceptable or healthy way to solve difficulties in relationships, regardless of orientation.

Victims feels responsible for their partner's violence and their partner's emotional state, hoping to prevent further violence.

Abuse usually worsens over time.

The abuser is often apologetic after abusing, giving false hope that the abuse will stop.

Some or all of the following effects of abuse may be present: shame, self-blame, physical injuries, short and long-term health problems, sleep disturbances, constantly on guard, social withdrawal, lack of confidence, low self-esteem, anxiety, depression, feelings of hopelessness, shock, and dissociative states.

What is Different:

Very limited services exist specifically for abused and abusive lesbians and gay men.

Lesbians and gay men often experience a lack of understanding of the seriousness of the abuse when reporting incidences of violence to a therapist, police officer or medical personnel.

Homophobia in society denies the reality of lesbian and gay men's lives, including the existence of lesbian and gay male relationships, let alone abusive ones. When abuse exists, attitudes often range from 'who cares' to 'these relationships are generally unstable or unhealthy.'

Shelters for abused women may not be sensitive to same-sex abuse (theoretically, shelters are open to all women and therefore, a same-sex victim may not feel safe as her abuser may also have access to the shelter). Abused gay men have even fewer places to turn for help in that there are no agency-sponsored safe places to stay.

In lesbian and gay male relationships, there may be additional fears of losing the relationship which confirms one's sexual orientation; fears of not being believed about the abuse and fears of losing friends and support within the lesbian/gay communities.

What To Do If You're Being Abused:

Recognize that you are not responsible for the abuse.

Recognize that violence/abuse is not likely to stop on its own - episodes of violence usually become more frequent and more severe.

It is important to break the silence. Try to tell someone who will believe you.

Seek professional help from a qualified counselor who is knowledgeable about partner abuse and is lesbian/gay positive. A lesbian or gay male counselor with the above qualities may help you address the pertinent issues of abuse with more comfort and focus.

Only you can decide what to do about your relationship - whether to stay or leave is your decision. However, it is important to develop a safety plan in case your safety and/or your children's safety is in jeopardy such as:

a safe place to stay;
emergency phone numbers;
some money;
your own bank account;
post office box; and
bag of essentials.
What To Do If You're Being Abusive:

Stop being abusive. Stop using abuse of any form (physical, sexual, verbal or emotional), including threats and intimidation.

Accept responsibility for your behavior. Remember that the use of violence in any form is always a choice that you make.

Do not make excuses for your violence or blame your partner for your abusive behavior.

Recognize that assaultive behavior is unacceptable and is a criminal act.

Seek professional help from a qualified counselor who is knowledgeable about partner abuse and is lesbian/gay positive. A lesbian or gay male counselor may help you address the pertinent issues of abuse with more comfort and focus.

Alcohol, drug use or mental health problems are not excuses for abusive behavior. Seek appropriate help for these problems.

How Can Friends/Relatives Help?

If someone discloses or you suspect that he/she is being abused, don't be afraid to privately express your concern and offer to help. Possible ways to help include locating resources, encouraging safety planning, respecting confidentiality and being there to listen. Believe their experience - don't minimize it. Don't give up or criticize them. If a friend doesn't leave an abusive partner, understand it is not easy. Let your friend know that you will be there regardless.

If someone you know is being abusive, tell them that violence and abuse are unacceptable. Encourage and support them in getting help to stop the violent behavior. Hold them accountable for their actions and the need to change.

What Lesbian and Gay Male Communities Can Do:

The lesbian and gay male communities must begin to break down the silences and defensiveness around the issue of abuse in same-sex relationships. The more it is talked about the easier it will be for individuals to identify and change their own behavior and to expect relationships that are mutually respectful and free from fear and any form of abuse.

Get educated and help educate; work to include this issue in community papers and public forums.

Advocate for treatment and services on the part of medical, legal, police and social services that is equal, accessible and sensitive to the needs of people who are in abusive same-sex relationships.

How Professionals Can Help:

All professionals need to examine their own attitudes and feelings and how these have been influenced by homophobia and heterosexism.

Become aware of the silence and prevailing myths about partner abuse in lesbian and gay male relationships.

Do not assume with either males or females that their partner is of the opposite sex.

Respect your client's anxieties about disclosure of sexual orientation, which may be based on real fears of discrimination and its effects on child custody, family support, job security, and/or deportation. Choices about disclosure of orientation and same-sex relationships are those of your clients and theirs alone.

It is important to impart acceptance of your client's sexual orientation.

Clients who have been abused by a same-sex partner may initially have issues of trust with a professional of the same sex.

Learn about and encourage the use of supportive social networks within and outside the lesbian and gay male communities in Toronto, Canada.

http://www.womanabuseprevention.com/html/same-sex_partner_abuse.html
 
Domestic Violence happens in ANY type of relationship regardless if its GLBT or straight -- its also one of the incidences that are NOT reported by the victims due to fear and shame
 
But one of the lesbians here told me she was abused by men...
and she said that is the reason she rather be with a woman.

And I posted these info, that it can happened in a lesbian relationship too.
Just because they think they are just having
a catfight or verbally namecalling... and all......
But That is abuse, as well.
 
Fly Free said:
Domestic Violence happens in ANY type of relationship regardless if its GLBT or straight -- its also one of the incidences that are NOT reported by the victims due to fear and shame
Yep. I agree with you, Fly Free.
 
Fly Free said:
Domestic Violence happens in ANY type of relationship regardless if its GLBT or straight -- its also one of the incidences that are NOT reported by the victims due to fear and shame


Indeed, FF.
 
Fly Free said:
Domestic Violence happens in ANY type of relationship regardless if its GLBT or straight -- its also one of the incidences that are NOT reported by the victims due to fear and shame


that is right!! :thumb:
 
How much do you really know about this, Ms P?

I don't think very much. You seem to like to quote things you read about, but anyone can do that. How much of this are you truly interested in helping others with, or how much of it is you trying to use something to gain brownie points with some of us. That's what this feels like to me. It feels like you're using things to try and gain favor with us, and that's doesn't sit right.
 
Helping people?

I am fussing at people. Because it bugs me.
Whatever bugs me, I will speak out.

Why people wanna make their life complicated?
And they complicated everybody else life?
 
I used to work with this WONDERFUL gay interpreter who had a live in lover. He would come in office sometimes with a black eye or scratches all over his arms/face.

He was too embarrased to admit that his lover abused him. I was shocked to see this 6'2 stocky sweet and friendly man getting attacked by his 5'10 partner.
 
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Meg said:
I used to work with this WONDERFUL gay interpreter who had a live in lover. He would come in office sometimes with a black eye or scratches all over his arms/faces.

He was too embarrased to admit that his lover abused him. I was shocked to see this 6'2 stocky sweet and friendly man getting attacked by his 5'10 partner.


yikes!! :-o
 
LOVE Relationship is a big step, Need to work on your self esteem
before loving somebody else.

When you were in an abusive relationship, need to reexamine your life and cope.

Am I right? :ugh2:
 
Meg said:
I used to work with this WONDERFUL gay interpreter who had a live in lover. He would come in office sometimes with a black eye or scratches all over his arms/face.

He was too embarrased to admit that his lover abused him. I was shocked to see this 6'2 stocky sweet and friendly man getting attacked by his 5'10 partner.
In many cases, size does not matter.. so yeah. I wonder if is he still with that guy?
 
Magatsu said:
In many cases, size does not matter.. so yeah. I wonder if is he still with that guy?

Youre right - size does not matter. It was just unusual to me.

Unfortunately, he died of AIDS. He didnt want his partner to have his ashes so he asked my co worker to have his ashes. A year later, this co worker came by my home and showed me the urn. It was a very sad story. Here this wonderful loving sweet man dying of AIDS while his partner was being an a--hole to him.

Bless his heart
 
Meg said:
Unfortunately, he died of AIDS. He didnt want his partner to have his ashes so he asked my co worker to have his ashes. A year later, this co worker came by my home and showed me the urn. It was a very sad story. Here this wonderful loving sweet man dying of AIDS while his partner was being an a--hole to him.

Bless his heart
*heartbreaking*

That is really sad... :( it sometimes get me mad that assholes tend to have the 'longer' lives while 'good' people tend to have the shorter lives. I know that is not always a case but seem to me, it does.
 
Giving the co worker his ashes, seem to me he got the last laugh and his lover was probably sad about that.
 
Miss*Pinocchio said:
Giving the co worker his ashes, seem to me he got the last laugh and his lover was probably sad about that.

That is not the case.

The case is that he was afraid that his lover would not take care of his ashes or get his ashes sprinkled at two places he loved the most - somewhere in Michigan.

He told me that he couldnt leave his lover while dying of AIDS cos he was afraid to die alone. He was only 37 at that time.
 
Miss P


IN one of the thread the domestic voilence threads i admited to the world in AllDeaf I had a abusing pattern that hurt my relationship with the women in my life, and i was not ashame to admit it, cuz this is the first step to admit u have made a mistake in your life, i took 1 yr of anger management and worked very hard on that, it was not an easy feat but what i wanted to do was break the cycle now before i have a family and they themselves won't see my pattern and won't see me hurting the ones i love. and belive me the 4 poeple that were in my life commended me for being honest with the world and that shows alot of bravery in every aspect but its not easy seriously the victims shouldn't have to be ashame abt this but at least they know thier not alone im on both sides of the fence my mom;s ex husband beat the crap out of her on my 19th birthday and she was in the hosptial my ex step brother beat the crap out of his dad for beating my mom up and they were protecting me as well. hes now in the fed prison ( in and out) for lying to the FBI when my mom owned a business and lied abt the rat posioning in the coffee bean bags and vitrually shut her down cuz of that she went bankrupted and i was still an angry woman cuz i never really could grasp life back then and im learning to grasp life and understanding the life and the right way to be angry and the wrong way of being angry...

so put urself in the abuser's shoes, they themselves are ashamed but thier not ready to admit it whlist i was and i come right out on alldeaf.com to admit my flaws and faults. and im gaining respect for that.

So please think twice before u put poeple down. they have a cycle of the poeple who done this before them. life's not easy it deffy sucks. but u know... think of this. the learning experince is the best value in life. and if we don't have that we won't have a future. its good to know the signs. and u can report it but its them that has to file.

my current partner who's a local has a family in the law enforcement and they know of my past and they know im doing my damnest not to let this one get away... she's been thru enuff hell herself, and i won't go futher in that. but god blessed the ones who shared the lives and respects one another. sorry for my yapping i ll go look for that domestic voielnce thread and post it here so you can see it for yourself.
 
hey javapride!

i am not going agrue or smartass to u.. i just wondering, why not u didnt tell me everything abt in ur past while we been dated for 6 months.. also we fell in love, supposed going marry last feb 12, 2005.. i am admitting here that i still hurt inside since u hurted me so much last yr, i already moved on ofc i do but inside still hurt cuz of everything i do believed u and there was BIG for me moved there hawaii be with u and u kept ur own dark sercet past and not tell me.. i feel alike that i am foolish n blind! i only know abt ur angry ofc i do and i was help u and ur stubborn not listen me.. i was alike ugh n very sad! cuz of i loved u so much in my heart.. i am sowwy to say here cuz of i need get out of my damn chest once! then GOOD LUCKY in ur future!
:tears: *sniffing*
 
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