9-1-1 is not required to answer calls

Jiro said:
ambulance ride is rougher than that.
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That's true. I've ridden in several kinds of small sport cars, and they were nothing like an ambulance ride. :lol:
 
Jiro said:
ambulance ride is rougher than that.
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Still following my ass? Anyway my car is lowered so the shocks/struts have to be hard-dampened to prevent my wheels from hitting the fenders inside the wheel well. Very rough ride! Immediately Reba would want to get out of my car once she takes the ride in it. :lol:
 
CrazyPaul said:
You think?


WTF? My adjustable shocks/struts by Tein (made in Japan) have a lifetime warranty.

In here? You mean in NJ? Ha, my ****ing car can handle it.
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NJ and NYC. I doubt it. your wheels will be the first to go. I don't think your sport car can handle multiple 2" deep potholes, construction zones, nasty speed bumps, debris, etc. that's why I bought a truck :lol:

if you're not used to NYC and this kind of aggressive driving.... no doubt that you will get in accident :lol:
 
Jiro said:
NJ and NYC. I doubt it. your wheels will be the first to go. I don't think your sport car can handle multiple 2" deep potholes, construction zones, nasty speed bumps, debris, etc. that's why I bought a truck :lol:

if you're not used to NYC and this kind of aggressive driving.... no doubt that you will get in accident :lol:
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Oh, ****, I was thinking about drive my car to NYC.

:ty: for warn me.
 
Jiro said:
NJ and NYC. I doubt it. your wheels will be the first to go. I don't think your sport car can handle multiple 2" deep potholes, construction zones, nasty speed bumps, debris, etc. that's why I bought a truck :lol:

if you're not used to NYC and this kind of aggressive driving.... no doubt that you will get in accident :lol:
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Laugh all you want (for nothing).
 
Jiro said:
I know an ambulance is pretty heavy but we've been doing this for a few decades and they still haven't figured it out yet?

My town's ambulance is like a mini-truck. it's massive. I think it's this one -

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I wonder if it's more comfortable than a common ambulance (like a van) -

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The top ambulance should be a really nice ride. Also a very expensive ride. :lol:

The way cities run ambulance service varies greatly.

1)Ambulances run by FD (Houston was like this, looks like New York is too)
2)Ambulances run by Hospital District
3)Ambulances run by a group of districts. (Usually several rural areas join network)
4)Private Ambulances contracted by city for full service with EMTs aboard.
5)Private ambulances with EMTs traveling in a separate fire apparatus

And probably more. It really depends on the city you are in.
 
Think we should settle this with an Ice Pick Fight....multiple wounds that bleed one little drop of blood, it will last quite some time and look like youre covered with giant mosquito bites.....lol
 
A lot of 911 calls do not have useful information. I read the case synopsis/call summary where I work, so this might not be be true for other cities but I think it can be a general consensus.

A lot of it is redundant information or the parties barely give any details over half the time. When a call is mixed up with personal emotions, it takes up the dispatch operator's time and ends up having less operators in the pool to serve the influx of 911 calls.

The best way for PD/Fire to be alerted of a serious situation is from multiple calls.
 
Hmmmmmmm
 

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Jiro said:
I can never forget that experience with painful lumber muscle. happened to me twice. fortunately... I had shorts on :giggle: and my mom had to help me up to bathroom. took about 20 minutes just to get out :(

it really takes your breath away for even tiniest movement.
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You bet!...and since I could not sleep on my waterbed, I tried the sofa...didn't work, so I slept on the hard floor...every little movement sent shock tingles....took forever to get up, and trying to walk was just as bad....Now I'm very careful whenever I pick up something heavy or how I bend over...:giggle:...the pain was worse than having a "Crink" in the neck, and I've had those too
 
Then, there's this:

911 caller: ‘Where are the police?’

By Glenn Smith
September 4, 2013

Ira Lewis of Mount Pleasant thought he was doing his civic duty when he called 911 twice on Aug. 25 to report a group of burglars trying to break into his neighbor’s home before dawn. Twice, Lewis said, a Charleston County emergency dispatcher told him that help was on the way. Twice, no one showed up.

“They could have caught them,” he said. “That’s what makes me mad.”
Lewis said he called Mount Pleasant police a few hours later to ask why no one came. Police didn’t know what he was talking about. The dispatch center never told them about the calls, authorities said.

The incident has prompted the Charleston County Sheriff’s Office to launch an investigation into the handling of calls for service by the Charleston County Consolidated 
9-1-1 Center. The investigation began Aug. 28 at the request of Charleston County government, authorities said.

Sheriff’s Maj. Jim Brady would not comment on the probe or whether it extends beyond the calls placed by Lewis, citing the ongoing investigation. An incident report filed by the sheriff’s office notes that the investigation involves activity at the center beginning July 1, well before the episode in question.

Lewis said the incident started when his wife went out on the porch of their home in the Cooper Estates subdivision around 4:30 a.m. after back pain left her unable to sleep.

She heard a thumping sound and saw two or three men jump a fence between the neighboring homes, using flashlight apps on their phones to guide them, Lewis said. They then ran to his neighbor’s home and started trying to get in through the back door, he said.

Lewis’ wife called to him and he grabbed his pistol. By the time he got outside, the noise had alerted the intruders and they ran to a Chevy sedan that pulled to the curb a few houses down, Lewis said. He saw three people get in the car.

He called 911 and asked a dispatcher to send police as he and his wife jumped in the car and attempted to get a license plate number on the car.
“I said ‘Please send a cruiser,’” he said. “But nobody ever showed up.”
At about 5:15 a.m., Lewis’ wife noticed that the getaway car had returned. Apparently, the thieves had left one of their own behind in their haste, a man who been lying in the bushes while the Lewises waited for the police to arrive, Lewis said.

“We called 911 again and said ‘Where are the police? You could have caught this guy. He’s been laying in the bushes for the past 45 minutes,’ ” Lewis said.

Again, no one came, Lewis said.

Lewis said he finally called Mount Pleasant police around 9 a.m. and was told police had no record of any call for service to his home.

Mount Pleasant police Inspector Chris Helms confirmed that no calls for service had been logged at or near that address. The police department quickly notified the county dispatch center regarding concerns about the incident, he said.

On Aug. 26, The Post and Courier first requested copies of the 911 calls Lewis placed that morning. The county has declined to turn over those recordings to the newspaper, citing the ongoing investigation.

“It is important to address all citizen concerns, and the county takes these situations very seriously,” Charleston County spokesman Shawn Smetana said. “We appreciate the public bringing this matter to our attention, and have asked the Sheriff’s Office to look into it so we can take any necessary actions.”

Lewis said no one from the county has contacted him yet about the ongoing probe.

“We’re still hanging out here,” he said. “We haven’t seen a police officer yet.”
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Update:
Officials: Call taker on 911 fumbled

BY DAVE MUNDAY
September 5, 2013

A 911 “call taker” failed to pass on several calls for help, and she is no longer taking calls, Charleston County officials said Wednesday. The sheriff’s office is investigating 911 calls made during July and August after a Mount Pleasant man complained that he and his wife called for help twice and police never showed up.

Investigators have found that other calls also were not passed on to police, and those calls are also linked to that one former call taker, Assistant Sheriff Mitch Lucas said at a news conference.

“We know it’s not systemic,” Lucas said, “We’ve narrowed it down to one employee. I’m confident the safety of Charleston County is not in jeopardy.”

The call taker, who was not identified, is no longer taking calls, according to County Administrator Kurt Taylor. He would not say whether she quit, was fired or was on leave. She had been working for the 911 center about two years, he said.

“We want to assure the public they can have confidence when they call 911,” he said.

Call takers handle calls from the public. Dispatchers then pass that information to police, fire and EMS.

The county’s investigation is expected to take about two weeks, Lucas said.

Officials released the 911 calls that sparked the investigation Wednesday. Ira Lewis and his wife called 911 twice around dawn Aug. 25 to report a group of burglars trying to break into his neighbor’s home in Mount Pleasant. The second time he told the dispatcher that one of the men was hiding under a bush.

The dispatcher failed to ask several routine questions, such as whether the callers were in a safe place or what their callback number was. Police said the calls were never passed on to them.

Mount Pleasant officers stopped by Lewis’ house Wednesday to take a report. Maj. Stan Gragg said officers canvassed the neighborhood but found no homes had been broken into the morning in question.

Lewis said he was relieved to find out the problem seemed to be one call taker not doing her job.

“If the system’s not broke, great, that puts me more at ease,” Lewis said Wednesday. “I feel better about it.”

Lucas said that 911 call taker had failed to pass on calls to police in several jurisdictions.

A North Charleston woman called the newspaper Wednesday to say she had called a male dispatcher several times and never got help.

Geraldine Singleton of North Charleston said she called the 911 center three times on July 20 after a water moccasin slithered into her house when she opened her door to let her dog out. She said she told a male dispatcher three different times that the poisonous snake went behind a television set, leaving her terrified.

“I was told all three times, ‘Hang in there. They’re coming,’ ” she said. “I just stood there screaming and crying and the police never showed up.”

Finally, some of her neighbors in the Colony North subdivision came to her aid and killed the snake, Singleton said.

Upset, Singleton said she emailed her City Council representative, Rhonda Jerome, who checked with police and learned they had never been notified of her calls for help.

Jerome could not be reached for comment Wednesday. Police spokesman Spencer Pryor said he could not immediately verify Singleton’s account of the incident.
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employ people it is after all your tax that paying for service
 
Your DEAD wrong, Jiro is right. Its about location, location, location!

If you live in farm areas, don't expect much of responder service available. Image a small town like bakers WVA, which is nice small town, with low taxes and they got only 1 ambulance available, perhaps 2 fire trucks available for entire town, suppose the very same morning 3 guys at different locations got heart attack, and there was 5 different houses in different location within town got fire, what can that town 911 dispatcher do? Had it happened? You can bet your fat azz on it!

Sometimes small town have very limit pool of people with training and experience comparing to like DC/MD/VA, NYC, LA where they got training centers and training maintenance programs. It is not illegal to provide limited trained personnel in emergency situation, because there was not enough available, that is where loophole law is. Have one that can help something better than nothing.

NOT everywhere they got full equipment.

Again, your STILL dead wrong, Jiro STILL right on this one.

CrazyPaul said:
You are wrong about ambulance crews who don't have trainings. That would be illegal. OFC, they are eqiupped.
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