Welfare recipients live in mansion

jillio said:
It says "name". It does not say "owner".

Like I said, people need to see what comes of this in a federal court. Anything else is a witch hunt. Any opportunity to villify public assistance that the people that receive it.

If this couple is guilty of committing fraud, they will be held responsible, as they should. But we do not know yet that they are guilty. Just a lot of assumption and complaining about the system.
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well - whoever is listed in parcel information is the owner.
 
TXgolfer said:
They can investigate all they want. One little word makes a successful prosecution difficult. This is why, on occasion they go civil first. But believe as you wish
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no. it's 2 different things.

the government is suing under civil lawsuit to regain $$$$$ back.
 
jillio said:
Like I said, I know how much education and training it takes to become licensed as a chiropractor. That would include knowing what degrees he holds. Most chiropractic schools don't even offer the traditional degree.

You said you knew it was happening every day. It would be logical to think that you were either observing these things take place, or someone had informed you that they were taking place specificallly. Either one of those would compel you to act, especially since you are so hell bent on telling us how the system needs to be reformed. I don't accept the sit back and complain stance. If you are so certain it is happening, and you are so certain that the system needs to be fixed so these things don't happen, you are in a position, as an officer of the law, to do something about it.
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And you personally know him and know how many other degrees that he may personally have gotten? I never said it was happening every day. Take another look at my post. Like I said before I cannot do anything out of my jurisdiction that is not a felony and is not something that I personally witness. I would be breaking the law at that point. You just don't get it do you? I'm certainly glad that you have all the answers because the rest of us would just be livin' in the dark under a rock if it weren't for you! Why don't you run for president.
 
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TXgolfer said:
No doubt....they are 2 very different things.
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yes. 2 different things. 2 different intentions.

under civil lawsuit, nobody's going to jail and that's a shame.
 
jillio said:
Well, duh. It isn't hard to determine exactly how much education and training it takes to become a licensed chiropractor.:laugh2:

If you know of those cases why aren't you, as an LEO, doing something about it? Most states require that anyone receiving TANIF work and receive on the job training and also that they be off of assistance in 5 years time.

Calling for mandatory testing just shows that you are of the opinion that all welfare recipients are using drugs. Nice opinion you have of the needy, there, officer.:roll:

Who says the fraud isn't being investigated. Obviously, however, you see it being committed daily in those that trade food stamps for drugs. Not very ethical of you to whine about fraud not being prosecuted when you turn a blind eye to it all the time.
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I think you mean TANF. (Temporary Assitance to Needy Families) I obviously don't believe that all on government aide use drugs. But mandatory testing would knock out the ones who do. I don't really care if the test can be defeated because for the most part the newer tests work well so if they use and get tested they will get caught and get suspended from the program (another type of criminal fraud). Drug testing these days is not that expensive considering that what it will accomplish. Just my opinion that a lot of others also agree with!
 
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Is it possible to be paying the taxes and not really be the deed holder on the property?
 
Jiro said:
sure but that would raise red flag for IRS
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Why?

Say I "bought" a house from my dad and am paying the taxes on the property but he still has the deed on it.

Or is that more like a bank lean on a property which requires filing with the county? In which I would be listed as the "owner" but the deed would technically still be owned by my dad.
 
Cheetah said:
Is it possible to be paying the taxes and not really be the deed holder on the property?
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Someone could be paying the taxes in the owner's behalf, such as a lawyer or relative, but the owner would still be the name listed. The reason is, whomever is paying the taxes could change easily without changing owners but the owner does not change unless the property is sold, transferred by death, foreclosure, or other legal process.

For example, the owner could be Tom Jones. He's hard up for money, so for a couple years, his parents pay the taxes for him. Then, they die. So, his girlfriend pays the taxes for a year. By then, Tom gets a good job overseas that pays well. He's too busy overseas to manage his affairs, so he hires a lawyer to do that. The lawyer makes the tax payments for the next several years.

Therefore, one owner but several people paying the taxes.

If Tom rents out his property to various people while he's overseas, the owner's name is still Tom Jones. If Tom sells his property, then the owner's name changes.
 
Cheetah said:
Why?

Say I "bought" a house from my dad and am paying the taxes on the property but he still has the deed on it.

Or is that more like a bank lean on a property which requires filing with the county? In which I would be listed as the "owner" but the deed would technically still be owned by my dad.
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:hmm: From that description, you haven't bought the house from your dad because the title hasn't exchanged hands. If he were to die in that circumstance, the house would become part of his estate rather than belonging to you.

If your name isn't on the deed, you have no way to prove it belongs to you. If you buy a house from your dad, even if it's for a nominal amount, like $100, he still has to transfer the property deed to you to make it legal. Otherwise, it's more like renting.
 
Cheetah said:
Why?

Say I "bought" a house from my dad and am paying the taxes on the property but he still has the deed on it.

Or is that more like a bank lean on a property which requires filing with the county? In which I would be listed as the "owner" but the deed would technically still be owned by my dad.
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I'm not saying it's illegal but doing so would raise your chance of getting audited.
 
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