We need the Draft reinstated!

Then, you should fire these pilots
who happen to be transexuals (F-to-M), too.
Would you ?

Teresh said:
Tests have shown women are much more resistant to higher G-force levels than men. By your logic, we should fire all male Air Force pilots and replace them with women.
 
Y said:
Then, you should fire these pilots
who happen to be transexuals (F-to-M), too.
Would you ?

:ugh:

We wouldn't have to fire anyone there because as of this time, transsexuality is considered a disqualifying medical condition. Transsexuals cannot serve in the military in any way, shape or form.

That's another problem with the military I'd like to see eliminated, though I don't see it happening any time soon.
 
No way for draft! My brother in law is in the army and My brother who will be 17 in Sept. doesn't want to be in the military nor the draft. I don't want them both dead in the war! :mad:
 
Women and transsexuals are a no-no in the military as they would not survive in a war torn environment. They would be killed and that is no good for the military or to the women and the transsexuals either. I think that is really a trumped up research paper to say that women can be pilots in the air force. You have to remember that almost everything nowadays is so politicized to the death that there is no room for any common sense and wisdom to prevail. I think the whole world will eventually see the wisdom in not placing women on the war frontlines. There may still be some positions open to women as necessary to free up more men to go fight the war and women can do things like communications in a non-combatant role. It really is not fair to subject the women to these things because their minds and bodies will freeze and shut down no matter how much military training women have had when women are subjected to excessive and very tremendous aumont of overwhelming violence. This almost never happens to men having their minds and bodies freeze or shut down when subjected to extreme violence.
 
JohnnyE said:
Women and transsexuals are a no-no in the military as they would not survive in a war torn environment. They would be killed and that is no good for the military or to the women and the transsexuals either. I think that is really a trumped up research paper to say that women can be pilots in the air force. You have to remember that almost everything nowadays is so politicized to the death that there is no room for any common sense and wisdom to prevail. I think the whole world will eventually see the wisdom in not placing women on the war frontlines. There may still be some positions open to women as necessary to free up more men to go fight the war and women can do things like communications in a non-combatant role. It really is not fair to subject the women to these things because their minds and bodies will freeze and shut down no matter how much military training women have had when women are subjected to excessive and very tremendous aumont of overwhelming violence. This almost never happens to men having their minds and bodies freeze or shut down when subjected to extreme violence.
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Oceanbreeze said:
upset with his response, Lucia?

:rofl:

Yeah...while I am not all for drafting and combat and stuff....

It annoys me that he is equating women and transgenders as "weaker" than men...it's just...not right. So I want to :slap: him.
 
JohnnyE said:
Women and transsexuals are a no-no in the military as they would not survive in a war torn environment.

Soldiers accept that they they are mortal. They understand from the get-go that they might not survive when they go into combat. That is a fact of war. Both male and female soldiers accept that.

JohnnyE said:
They would be killed and that is no good for the military or to the women and the transsexuals either.

It's no good for the military or the men who are killed at the moment either.

JohnnyE said:
I think that is really a trumped up research paper to say that women can be pilots in the air force.

It wouldn't be research if it did not implement controls and experiment fairly. If they were lying about their results, they would be doing both themselves and the rest of the world a severe academic disservice.

JohnnyE said:
You have to remember that almost everything nowadays is so politicized to the death that there is no room for any common sense and wisdom to prevail.

Sorry, but that's what we call fabricating information in order to deny the obvious. It doesn't make your case, it only exposes that you really don't know what you're talking about.

JohnnyE said:
I think the whole world will eventually see the wisdom in not placing women on the war frontlines.

Maybe the world will eventually see the wisdom of not placing *anyone* on the war front lines... Until then, both men and women (yes, BOTH genders) should have the same obligations to protect themselves and their countries.

JohnnyE said:
It really is not fair to subject the women to these things because their minds and bodies will freeze and shut down no matter how much military training women have had when women are subjected to excessive and very tremendous aumont of overwhelming violence.

That's ridiculous. Women can take the same amount of pressure men can. You can claim otherwise if you want, but you are also biased against women and a sexist bigot, so your claims are unfounded nonsense rooted in your own preconceived biases rather than in fact.
 
Men and women can be trained for war and everything else. The only difference is that women can get pregnant while men cannot. :D
 
JohnnyE said:
Women and transsexuals are a no-no in the military as they would not survive in a war torn environment. They would be killed and that is no good for the military or to the women and the transsexuals either. I think that is really a trumped up research paper to say that women can be pilots in the air force.
Women have been serving in our military for many years. In recent years, they have also been serving in combat zones. They have been pilots for many years. They, like their male counterparts, get wounded and killed.


You have to remember that almost everything nowadays is so politicized to the death that there is no room for any common sense and wisdom to prevail.
You do have a point there. Too many people think that the military owes them equal job opportunities just because the civilian world does. They forget that the military is mission oriented (or at least it's supposed to be).


I think the whole world will eventually see the wisdom in not placing women on the war frontlines... It really is not fair to subject the women to these things because their minds and bodies will freeze and shut down no matter how much military training women have had when women are subjected to excessive and very tremendous aumont of overwhelming violence. This almost never happens to men having their minds and bodies freeze or shut down when subjected to extreme violence.
There are some women who never "freeze", and there are some men who do "freeze", so I wouldn't make such general statements.

I do believe there are reasons that women shouldn't be drafted, and shouldn't be assigned to all billets, but none of those reasons have to do with women being "lesser" than men.
 
Yeah.. I agree with you. I want to :slap: him too!

LuciaDisturbed said:
Yeah...while I am not all for drafting and combat and stuff....

It annoys me that he is equating women and transgenders as "weaker" than men...it's just...not right. So I want to :slap: him.
 
Well i see no reason to train women as Fighter Pilots ,Tank Drivers or Missile launchers.Women want equal rights well they gotta earn them same as a man goes though by defending our nation.
 
Reba said:
I do believe there are reasons that women shouldn't be drafted, and shouldn't be assigned to all billets, but none of those reasons have to do with women being "lesser" than men.
Mind if you can clarify a little bit? If you decline, I understand.

Just curious, and this question isn't necessarily addressed to you; Should individuals with disabilities be eligible for military service? I would imagine if they were, they would be assigned to support roles. Even then, what kind of disabilities should be acceptable? There would be too many questions to make the idea all but unworkable.

Like, for example, I would love to enroll in the military and work as a Judge Advocate General. They are still advertising job vacancies, and I assume the bulk of them are actually assigned to destinations like Iraq and Afghanistan, hence the reason for these jobs being largely unfulfilled.

Bottom line, the military has restrictive policies for recruitment and acceptance of military service. I would imagine a lot of these policies are well justified and tailored to the military's specific needs.

But, the military is facing a shortage of volunteer applicants, and I can't help but think if entry policies were relaxed a bit, such as the 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' policy being dropped, they would gain a little bit more traction in recruitment.
 
We need Doctors and Nurses to be drafted to.They can work when soldiers get shot or wounded.Mechanics need to be drafted to fix jeeps,,Tanks and Planes.Cooks need to be Drafted to feed the hungry men & Women fighting in combat.
 
Buckdodgers said:
No,, Soon well need 250,000 troops to Invade IRAN,,And soon well need 200,000 troops head to south korea border.

Don't we already have troops over there in South Korea? You're not the one making the decisions. Where are you getting those numbers from? Invading either place now would be dangerous. North Korea has over a million troops. The long range missile they tested failed, so it's not a threat yet. Iran had sent hordes of kids armed only with Korans against Iraq before. Invading Iran would also encourage more terrorism and encourage the government there to take action against Israel. We have the military fighting in two countries and four countries would be a lot to manage, so it would be better to deal with the other two countries first. We also have more advanced weapons than in the Vietnam war that can do a lot with less people.
 
No way to get draft... we don't have draft since 1978.

Deaf people are exempt to get draft but only men who under 25 years old are allowed to get draft.

I'm disagree about women to get draft because we need women to take workplace since young men are in war but its not funny, also draft isn't enjoy.

I already applied to got SSS from mail because one man forced me to apply SSS or I would become felony, that fucking stupid but they must understand about deaf people.

If I get draft then I will be pissed off and nothing to prove that I'm profound deaf then they probably send me to see audioglist and get prove.
 
volcomskatz said:
No way to get draft... we don't have draft since 1978.

Deaf people are exempt to get draft but only men who under 25 years old are allowed to get draft.

I'm disagree about women to get draft because we need women to take workplace since young men are in war but its not funny, also draft isn't enjoy.

I already applied to got SSS from mail because one man forced me to apply SSS or I would become felony, that fucking stupid but they must understand about deaf people.

If I get draft then I will be pissed off and nothing to prove that I'm profound deaf then they probably send me to see audioglist and get prove.

There is nothing to get pissed off about. You will be given a medical slip then told where to report to work in a war factory especially if you do not have a job in the first place which would really be a blessing in disguise so be happy you will have a job assembling wartime products then get off work and go home have dinner and a couple cold beers and relax outside at night then go to bed then the sun comes up again and you go back to work the next day and you have money in your pocket, the bills paid for and a roof over your head. You can't complain or get pissed off over basically nothing that was to be something that would good for you especially with the job market as hard as it is right now to get hired. Getting a medical slip from the SSS draft board is basically like getting a job on the spot which is good news !
 
JohnnyE said:
There is nothing to get pissed off about. You will be given a medical slip then told where to report to work in a war factory especially if you do not have a job in the first place which would really be a blessing in disguise so be happy you will have a job assembling wartime products then get off work and go home have dinner and a couple cold beers and relax outside at night then go to bed then the sun comes up again and you go back to work the next day and you have money in your pocket, the bills paid for and a roof over your head. You can't complain or get pissed off over basically nothing that was to be something that would good for you especially with the job market as hard as it is right now to get hired. Getting a medical slip from the SSS draft board is basically like getting a job on the spot which is good news !

If I get drafted then they will force me to doing job?
 
volcomskatz said:
If I get drafted then they will force me to doing job?
This will be your Job,
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