Wary observers say Obama's speech could be a new beginning

[Liebling:-)))]

Obama made his speech in Cairo, Egypt. Since when is Egypt an enemy country? America is not at war with Egypt.

I am asking you the same...

Iran did not attack the USA to make war. Iranian President visited America to make his speech.

What´s your point?

Guess what? No one threw shoes at Bush for more than seven years into his presidency. Obama hasn't even been President for seven months.

Again, no matter how many months or years Obama and Bush´s presidency but Bush was almost hitted by shoe thrower.

So what? That proves nothing.

wow :jaw:

No, that is not even close to "truth." That's just your personal opinion. "I would say" means that's your opinion.

Of course, I know that this is my opinion... So?

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Are you saying that prior to America attacking Iraq, we had a good reputation in the Muslim world? It that is so, why did Muslim terrorists attack the US on 9/11?

Re-read my post more carefully please.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

9/11 plot were started during Clinton admin and there's no evidence if Bush has ignore or unaware of warning.

I wasn't aware of 9/11 until airplane hits WTC on 9/11/01.

No, Bush was in the office for 9 months before 9/11 attack.

Plenty of links was posted in several Iraq war debate threads.

 

[Reba]

I am asking you the same...

Iran did not attack the USA to make war. Iranian President visited America to make his speech.

What´s your point?

I guess you don't remember the things you posted.

You referred to Ahmadi-Nejad making a speech in the USA with Obama making a speech in Cairo, Egypt.

"They both visit enemy countries to make their speech. It shows itself that they want peace with enemy countries."

Do you really believe Egypt is an "enemy country" to the USA?

We are not at war with Iran either.

Again, no matter how many months or years Obama and Bush´s presidency but Bush was almost hitted by shoe thrower.

Again I ask you, what does it prove when one man throws his shoes during one event over an eight-year period?

The answer is NOTHING.

wow :jaw:

What's so shocking about that???

Of course, I know that this is my opinion... So?

You posted it was "truth" when obviously it wasn't. I'm glad that you now agree that it was just your opinion.

 

[Reba]

Re-read my post more carefully please.

You posted: "Please get your facts right. The USA attacked a country that had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11, that´s why the USA have poor reputation in the Muslim world."

If the USA had a good reputation in the Muslim world prior to attacking Iraq, then why did Muslims attack the USA on 9/11?

Prior to the invasion of Iraq, prior to the invasion of Afghanistan, prior to the 9/11 attack, way back then, did the USA have a good reputation with the Muslim world? If yes, then why did Muslims attack the USA? If no, then whatever we did after 9/11 had nothing to do with it.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

So you do not work for a violent country or military because that would be against your principles, correct?

With all due respect, I as private person join AD Forum as membership.

It´s not first time that you and Jiro harassed me over my job. I am so tiring by you and Jiro´s harassment over my job since last year in several lock threads. Now again... I see a force to report on you and Jiro to mod. and Admin. for harassment if you both do that again to me.

Thank you.

 

[Foxrac]

No, Bush was in the office for 9 months before 9/11 attack.

Plenty of links was posted in several Iraq war debate threads.

No, you are very wrong.

9/11 plot has started during Clinton admin, not Bush admin.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planning_of_the_September_11_attacks

 

[Beowulf]

You posted: "Please get your facts right. The USA attacked a country that had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11, that´s why the USA have poor reputation in the Muslim world."

If the USA had a good reputation in the Muslim world prior to attacking Iraq, then why did Muslims attack the USA on 9/11?

Prior to the invasion of Iraq, prior to the invasion of Afghanistan, prior to the 9/11 attack, way back then, did the USA have a good reputation with the Muslim world? If yes, then why did Muslims attack the USA? If no, then whatever we did after 9/11 had nothing to do with it.

Are you convinced that Muslims attacked the USA that day? That is odd...I am convinced it was an insider job.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Yes, really. Since you have worked so many years for the American military I thought you knew that.

Of course I know but I am not going to break my agreement contract to spread the information out to everyone. I thought you know that, don´t you?

What's your point?

I am sorry that I can´t help you.

In other words, you have no proof because it didn't happen. Bush never said that he hated Muslims.

Ok

I did not compare Obama to Hitler, Mussolini and Hirohito. Please read #132 again.

Yes I have.

Hitler, Mussolini and Hirohito has nothing do with Obama and Muslim world because Obama is not Hitler, Mussolini and Hirohito.

I only tell you that your post "Hitler" remind me of your previous post at my lock thread that you compared him to Obama. Why do you brought those name up in Obama thread here for?

D-Day proved that the way to peace is not always "tolerance" but force. The people who were involved with D-Day, on one side or the other, clearly understood that.

Like what I said before RESPECT.

 

[Reba]

Are you convinced that Muslims attacked the USA that day? That is odd...I am convinced it was an insider job.

Yes, I'm convinced the hijackers were Muslim extremists.

I find it odd that you're convinced it was an insider job.

But I think we hashed that out at a previous thread.

 

[Beowulf]

Yes, I'm convinced the hijackers were Muslim extremists.

I find it odd that you're convinced it was an insider job.

But I think we hashed that out at a previous thread.

Not even close. I would start a new thread over this matter, but it demands pateince which I lack today, lol.

 

[Cheri]

9/11 plot were started during Clinton admin and there's no evidence if Bush has ignore or unaware of warning..

I'm sorry I don't even buy it not one bit. How can Bush not have known? I can't believe any elected government in this country was not informed on any future attacks on America. I truly believe that Bush ignored all the evidences that was gathered by the CIA.

He had the chance to prevent or to try to get Osama Bin Laden before 9/11, which he did not, He also had not try to get Osama Bin Laden after 9/11 either. What does that tell you?

I wasn't aware of 9/11 until airplane hits WTC on 9/11/01

That is because they chose not to act on the warnings that they had received for several years. Several years they knew and done nothing until the last warning was made July 2001, when Osama was about to launch a terrorist strike between July to Oct. of 2001 and that had been ignored also! So don't sit there and tell me Bush knew nothing.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

I guess you don't remember the things you posted.

You referred to Ahmadi-Nejad making a speech in the USA with Obama making a speech in Cairo, Egypt.

"They both visit enemy countries to make their speech. It shows itself that they want peace with enemy countries."

Do you really believe Egypt is an "enemy country" to the USA?

Yes I stand what I said is correction.

Don´t you know that muslim people lives in Eypgt? Obama went there to convince Muslim people that America is no enemy to them because a lot of Muslim people from many Middle East countries never forget/forgive what and how Bush Admin. did to them. Bush Admin. negative Muslim world and use 9/11 to blame Muslim world. Why do Bush pick on Muslim/Arab for? That´s how Muslim people feel.

We are not at war with Iran either.

Actually but America WAS war with Iran to support Saddam Hussein during Iraq-Iran war.

Again I ask you, what does it prove when one man throws his shoes during one event over an eight-year period?

The answer is NOTHING.

Again :jaw:

What's so shocking about that???

Because you refuse to see the truth.

You posted it was "truth" when obviously it wasn't. I'm glad that you now agree that it was just your opinion.

I have read alot of Bush´s interviews, etc and his reputation, etc. I express my opinion after view about him is truth because it´s true.

 

[Reba]

With all due respect, I as private person join AD Forum as membership.

It´s not first time that you and Jiro harassed me over my job. I am so tiring by you and Jiro´s harassment over my job since last year in several lock threads. Now again... I see a force to report on you and Jiro to mod. and Admin. for harassment if you both do that again to me.

Thank you.

OK, without mentioning your specific job, will you agree with me that, for the most part, America is a good country, that our military are patriotic professionals, and that the civilians who work for our military faithfully support the American military mission at home and abroad?

Those are all positive statements.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

You posted: "Please get your facts right. The USA attacked a country that had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11, that´s why the USA have poor reputation in the Muslim world."

If the USA had a good reputation in the Muslim world prior to attacking Iraq, then why did Muslims attack the USA on 9/11?

Prior to the invasion of Iraq, prior to the invasion of Afghanistan, prior to the 9/11 attack, way back then, did the USA have a good reputation with the Muslim world? If yes, then why did Muslims attack the USA? If no, then whatever we did after 9/11 had nothing to do with it.

I can see that you misinterpret my post. I am trying my best to make my post more clear...

The USA started to attack Iraq that had absolutely nothing do with 9/11 attack. Muslim/Arab world have low view about the USA. It shows itself that their relations toward the USA are very low value.

How do you know that it´s terroists from Muslim world who are responsible for 9/11 attack?

 

[Reba]

Of course I know but I am not going to break my agreement contract to spread the information out to everyone. I thought you know that, don´t you?

What kind of agreement contract doesn't allow you to agree with me that soldiers respect the President? That is truly bizarre.

I am sorry that I can´t help you.

So there was no point. OK, it happens.

Yes I have.

Hitler, Mussolini and Hirohito has nothing do with Obama and Muslim world because Obama is not Hitler, Mussolini and Hirohito.

I didn't say he was.

I only tell you that your post "Hitler" remind me of your previous post at my lock thread that you compared him to Obama. Why do you brought those name up in Obama thread here for?

I explained it twice. You brought up the topic of peace and tolerance, not me. It has nothing to do with any previous thread.

Like what I said before RESPECT.

Was it "respect" for the enemy that won World War II?

I respect the Allied military members who died for us.

 

[Reba]

Not even close. I would start a new thread over this matter, but it demands pateince which I lack today, lol.

I'm sorry, I thought it was you that brought it up previously; it must have been other ADers. My mistake.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

No, you are very wrong.

9/11 plot has started during Clinton admin, not Bush admin.
Planning of the September 11 attacks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

for the link. I can see some of theory in the link.

Like what I said before that Clinton DID advised Bush to focus on terrorism fighting soon after Bush won his 1st election. Bush choose to ignore it and focus on Iraq to neglect terrorism fighting and then read Cheri´s post.....

Some people in Bush´s father Admin. want to have Saddam badly and urged Clinton to attack Iraq again. Clinton ignored it and focus on terrorism fighting since few terrorist attacks under his watch.

Oh yes, Bush ignored the warning, he received from terrorist network few weeks before 9/11 attack.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

What kind of agreement contract doesn't allow you to agree with me that soldiers respect the President? That is truly bizarre.

Never mind

So there was no point. OK, it happens.

Ok

I didn't say he was.

Ok

I explained it twice. You brought up the topic of peace and tolerance, not me. It has nothing to do with any previous thread.

The fact is it´s Obama and Muslim world I am referring to, not over 60 years old issues.

Was it "respect" for the enemy that won World War II?

I respect the Allied military members who died for us.

What´s WWII do with Obama and Muslim world here?

WWII is very different as Obama and Muslim world.

After Pearl Harbor attack, US soldiers went to WWII with other soldiers from different countries together to stop Hitler and Nazis. Hitler was not a peacemaker that´s why he had to be stop before he attempt to rule the world. If you want to talk about Hilter and WWII then create a new thread.

I talk about show the respect on other countries with different cultural, not war.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

OK, without mentioning your specific job, will you agree with me that, for the most part, America is a good country, that our military are patriotic professionals, and that the civilians who work for our military faithfully support the American military mission at home and abroad?

Those are all positive statements.

Yes I support and respect good soldiers who know what they are doing in right way.

I have some soilders friends and American lady who can do ASL with me.

Yes America is a good country for long years until Bush Admin. comes. I blame Bush Admin. for destory America´s reputation. I´m glad that Obama doing his job pretty good to repair the damage, Bush cause for past 8 years and also Bush´s negative relations with the leaders from different countries as well.