Terri Schiavo's former husband Michael married again

diehardbiker65 said:
It is true that it is really cruel to starve one's to death, I can't image doing that to anyone! I would NEVER do that to Cheri, my son, and my son's mother!
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There you go..... :aw:
 
CrazyMomma said:
If my husband is like her, and I will NEVER to pull the plug and let him starve to death. Come on.. Think about. I said the wedding vows to him. And I am staying with him. He can breathe, his liver and heart are working, but need help with feeding. There are very chances that he would make a good progress. But I will NEVER leave my husband or having a boyfriend behind my husband's back. No Way!
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You're a good wife, that took your vows seriously. :hug:
 
Cheri said:
That's correct, I don't believe anything that came from Wikipedia either. ;)
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Well, that's too bad, because like it or not, there's a wealth of information on Wiki that can't come from "anyone can simply edit" the documents.

The whole wiki article contains what I feel is a fairly balanced view on the whole situation, rather than entirely bashing left or right wingers. It focuses on FACT, not on emotions, which some people on AllDeaf rely almost entirely on.
 
Cheri said:
When someone is brain-damaged they can breate on their own.
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That actually depends on whether or not the person's brain stem is damaged. If it is, then no, they CANNOT breathe on their own. The brain stem controls our respiratory and cardiac functiions. Terri was able to breathe on her own because her brain stem wasn't damaged. However, there are people in vegetative states who are dependant on ventilators.
 
Ya know what; I don't have a problem with people moving on, that's normal, right? HOWEVER, (lol, ya saw that coming, right?) I have a grave problem with him moving on a little too early as evidenced by his two kids by someone else.
 
Dennis said:
The whole wiki article contains what I feel is a fairly balanced view on the whole situation, rather than entirely bashing left or right wingers. It focuses on FACT, not on emotions, which some people on AllDeaf rely almost entirely on.
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Ah, Ok Dennis the menace, You have your opinion and I have mine, If you don't like how I post, Don't have to read it. Simple as it is. ;)
 
Autumn Tree said:
Wikipedia isn't a very reliable or very trustworty online encyclopedia...anyone CAN add, edit or take out words in any page... all they do is click on "Edit this page" without needing to apply for a membership. I would not be 100% sure with this information about Terri Schiavo. :/
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The Terri Schiavo issue receieved a lot of mainstream press, and as a result of that, was a page that was read a lot. A benefit of the site being that anyone can edit is anyone can correct errors. As a result of this, significant pages are, in fact, 100% accurate under Linus's Law. "With enough eyes, all bugs are shallow." The Law refers to Free Software, but applies also to Free Documentation, the only good example of which is Wikipedia. Some remote pages that few or no articles link to are less credible, but the ones about current events or recent past events, as well as some major topics in science, engineering and computer science are actually completely accurate. Saying otherwise stands in contradiction to Linus's Law, and is therefore false as Linus's Law has proved true for 100% of all cases for the last fifteen fourteen years.
 
Terri's parent want keep their daughter... and don't need Michael handle this..
Terri's parent want Michael divorce their daughter.. go ahead.. but Michael refused reason why he want Terri's will and $$$ pretty large sum investment....

And also, Michael want rid Terri and thrown her into the coffin without her speak it out may come truth about him...

If suppose.. Terri's Parent keep their daughter stay alive... One day she'll might open her mouth *speaking* truth about Michael.. I wish IF happends but too late she is already gone....

Michael is greedy...

Oceanbreeze wrote:
That actually depends on whether or not the person's brain stem is damaged. If it is, then no, they CANNOT breathe on their own. The brain stem controls our respiratory and cardiac functiions. Terri was able to breathe on her own because her brain stem wasn't damaged. However, there are people in vegetative states who are dependant on ventilators.
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Wait minutes,
I read Terri's health.. She CAN breath her own without machine.... FYI...
and also She cannot eat her own so use feeding tube machine... that's all
What makes you say that her brain is damaged... How impossible she can breath her own without machine.. ? Did you read so many different links.???
 
Cheri said:
You're wrong Liebling, Terri Schiavo’s heart and lungs function just fine, and without aid, When someone is brain-dead they cannot breathe on their own, When someone is brain-damaged they can breate on their own. All she was getting was feeding tube be maintained in order to keep her body alive. Everyone needs food and water to keep themselves alive. She was only in vegetative state, she can hear, she can move her eyes.
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Yes, that´s right.

Yes, I know the difference between brain-dead and brain-damaged but I mean is Terri CAN´T talk, walk, chat, etc. That´s what I tried to explain GA that the brain work together with body that human can walk, talk, etc. Yes, I know that Terri can hear and move her eyes but no body movement...

We all know that Terri suffered severe brain damaged as the proof of autospy confirmation. It explains that it´s impossible to cure her brain damage...
 
^Angel^ said:
As I said before and once again I have no problem with pulling the plug from a life support machine but starving someone to death slowly that I have a problem with.....
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Yes, I can understand. I am also against remove feeding tube to starving someone to death slowly, too but I was told that they are not allow to give patients an injection to put them sleep but remove feeding-tube accord Florida law system which I´m disagree to. What could Michael do because of that law system.

Beside no one knows the truth whether this is what Terri really wanted cause Michael said once he didn't know if this is what she wanted, then he changed his story around saying this is what his wife wanted....Sounds to me he can't tell the truth....so therefore there was no verbal or written agreement....I have no sympathy for Michael whatsoever since the day he left his wife for another woman while his wife lay in bed helpless....I'm sorry if this sounds a bit harsh but this is how I feel....
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Well, there´re word against word between Michael and Terri´s parents... What could we do? How could we prove that Michael nor Terri´s parents tell the truth? There´re many medias for Michael and other medias for Terri´s parents... All what I know the problem is living will... Michael never thought about this until that happened... Like what I say in my first post here that it´s none of my business but wish him best of good luck... Let him go... and Let Terri go.... and Let Terri´s parents go... I only stated in my opinion how I feel when I´m in Terri´s shoes.
 
diehardbiker65 said:
Your probably are right. There is no way we will know til the day comes. Hope that none of us will have to repeat this same mistake.
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I find that hard to believe. Do you have a reputable source that says Terri's parents let him go out with another woman ?
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From Wolfson Report:

"It took Michael a long time to consider the prospect of getting on with his life – something he was actively encouraged to do by the Schindlers, long before enmity tore them apart. He was even encouraged by the Schindlers to date, and introduced his in-law family to women he was dating."

The Shlinders encouraged Michael to "cheat" (in your own words) and don't you think they should be condemned for encouraging their own son-in-law to cheat on their own daughter?

BTW, the judge who ordered life support to be pulled is a Baptist Republican.
 
CrazyMomma said:
If my husband is like her, and I will NEVER to pull the plug and let him starve to death. Come on.. Think about. I said the wedding vows to him. And I am staying with him. He can breathe, his liver and heart are working, but need help with feeding. There are very chances that he would make a good progress. But I will NEVER leave my husband or having a boyfriend behind my husband's back. No Way!
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You said that you won´t let your husband go to heaven but did your husband knows about this? Do he want to remain alive if he has a severe brain-damaged? If not, then ask him how he feel when he is in Terri´s shoe... :)

Yes, my hubby and I have a long talk about this issue since we learned from Terri´s case because we want to make sure each other to save our suffer for our family. We don´t want our tube-feeding to be remove but give us infection to put us sleep quick and save more suffer like what the vet did with pets.
 
GalaxyAngel said:
Wait minutes,
I read Terri's health.. She CAN breath her own without machine.... FYI...
and also She cannot eat her own so use feeding tube machine... that's all
What makes you say that her brain is damaged... How impossible she can breath her own without machine.. ? Did you read so many different links.???
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Did you read her autopsy report? It confirmed the diagnosis of brain damage. Furthermore, her family never disputed she was brain damaged.

I also never said she couldn't breathe on her own. She could. I was merely stating in that other post that some people in persistent vegetative states breathe on their own; while others do not. The difference between the ones that do, and the ones that don't have to do with whether or not the brain stem is damaged or not.
 
^Angel^ said:
I'm reading some posts here that some of you said you rather your partner to pull the plug from a life support machine, remember Terri was NOT on any life support machine, her husband starve his lovely wife to death slowly as each day went by until she finally died, so tell me if this something you rather to go thru?.... :ugh:
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Yes, I know she´s not on life support machine but vegetable. I already stated in my previous posts that I disagree to starve human to death but give them injection to put them sleep peaceful without suffering. It´s no improvement chance for Terri as what the confirmation of doctors and also autopsy, too.
 
Heath said:
Nope.... I would want to be alive at all costs because you never know a miracle could happen.
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Huh? It could be miracle to improve brain damage? Do you really beleive this? I doubt.
 
Nope.... I would want to be alive at all costs because you never know a miracle could happen.
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What miracle? That she'll come back to normal Terri? There is 100% no chance. The autopsy revealed more brain damage than many realized.

Keep your delusions to yourself.

-jeff
 
Here's visual evidence:

This is an comparison between CAT scans of a normal 25 year old's brain on the left and Terri's brain on the right.

This is an AP picture with an explaintion of the scan showing where brain mass was lost and replaced with fluid and where the atrophied brain is.

Terri could breathe and move because she still had a brain stem and spinal cord. Those are what control breathing, the heart and reflexes. The video of Terri that was on the news is only a small part of the whole thing. They picked out the parts where she responded the most. Those reponses were not from the original Terri buried in there anywhere.

What was irreversibly damaged was the cerebral cortex. This part is involved in "memory, attention, perceptual awareness, "thinking", language and consciousness." If the cerebral cortex was irreversibly screwed, then I guess that means those functions were greatly reduced or gone.

What made Terri the person she was could not come back again because those patterns of neuron connections were gone. She wasn't defined just by the brain stem and spinal cord and the rest of her body. She couldn't come back as a new person with a blank slate either because too much brain mass was gone.

She wasn't merely buried, she was gone with only an empty shell of a body left with enough basic brain parts to keep the shell alive, but not make Terri come back in any way.
 
Terri could breathe and move because she still had a brain stem and spinal cord. Those are what control breathing, the heart and reflexes. The video of Terri that was on the news is only a small part of the whole thing. They picked out the parts where she responded the most. Those reponses were not from the original Terri buried in there anywhere.
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Those videos you saw are decieving. It's easy to make it look like she's responding to stimuli... all you have to do is move a balloon to match her eye movements. She was determined that she's blind in autopsy report.

Remember, she smiles for no apparent reason. She cries for no reason. She laughs for no reason. You could tell her a joke and she wouldn't laugh at all. She is NOT aware of what's going on. She was filmed ALL DAY and only parts that they thought she was responding or used tricks to make her look like she's responding to stimuli. No one saw the rest of the video.
 
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