Terri Schiavo's former husband Michael married again

The information you hear from media are mostly hearsay and opinions and most of them don't have the facts right.

The Wolfson Report has all the facts. It concluded that there's NO evidence of abuse and that Michael is a very devoted caregiver. It noted that for 13 years, Terri never had a bedsore which clearly showed that Michael made sure Terri is well cared for.

Why did 11 courts (all the way to Supreme Court) turned down the appeal? If there was evidence of abuse, they would review it but they didn't. They READ the Wolfson report and concluded that there's NO evidence justifying the need to keep Terri alive. Keep in mind that most of the judges were appointed by conservative Republicans.

-jeff
 
The Wolfson Report has all the facts. It concluded that there's NO evidence of abuse and that Michael is a very devoted caregiver. It noted that for 13 years, Terri never had a bedsore which clearly showed that Michael made sure Terri is well cared for.

He was a devoted caregiver?

Then why did we kept hearing that Michael "denied Terri antibiotics when she suffered a bladder infection", among others? (Link) :confused:
 
netrox said:
The Wolfson Report has all the facts. It concluded that there's NO evidence of abuse and that Michael is a very devoted caregiver. It noted that for 13 years, Terri never had a bedsore which clearly showed that Michael made sure Terri is well cared for.


-jeff


Do you have a link?....
 
RedFox said:
Didn't anybody look at the pictures of the scan? :( They show that Terri was truly gone, so killing her body didn't kill her because she was already gone with no way to come back. The only way I could think of bringing her back would be to replace the lost neurons with the same connections with the same information. Nobody had the technology to copy that information before Terri collapsed, so we don't have that information with us, so we can't put it back into her head by replacing the neurons.

It wasn't the starving and dehydrating that destroyed her cerebral cortox, it was already like that before they starved her. The body that died wasn't the original Terri, but the Terri with no higher brain functions and with no way of getting those back.

Sorry, just because we have a body doesn't mean we really have the person. If the brain cells needed for higher brain functions are gone with no return, then the person is also gone with no return.

A miracle would account to putting new cells there with the same information. But we don't have any means of getting all of that information, except by time travel to copy it from the original Terri. The original Terri was already in the past when the body died, so there's no point in saving somebody who wasn't there.


her heart was still beating..
 
netrox said:
The information you hear from media are mostly hearsay and opinions and most of them don't have the facts right.

The Wolfson Report has all the facts. It concluded that there's NO evidence of abuse and that Michael is a very devoted caregiver. It noted that for 13 years, Terri never had a bedsore which clearly showed that Michael made sure Terri is well cared for.

-jeff

her parents actually took care of her
 
ButterflyGirl said:
He may be the "king" of the house but that doesn't make him the BOSS period!!!!
There's no such King in the U.S. (that's for Heath)

the way i see it.. we've become one.. not two it takes 2 couples to make decisions.. not just the husband. but the husband had a right to what to do with his wife but i think its wrong with what he did. he should have considered giving terri to her parents.
 
Cheri said:
Liebling and RedFox,

You both are missing the point! She was breathing on her own, How can someone take a human being life when they are breathing on their own? If you want someone to stave you both to death, Be it, But, don't make me change my opinion about Michael. I stand my ground about what I think of Michael nothing in this world would make me change my mind about him. He's a big fat liar murder jerk period! :thumb:

Rebelgirl said:
her heart was still beating..

If she was breathing and had a beating heart, that means the brain stem was still there and working. But look at the scan again. The part of the brain that made her a human was gone. The brain stem wasn't what made her human. It isn't breathing and heart beating that makes people human. Animals do those things too. What makes us human are the higher functions that were lost with the loss of brain mass that can be seen in the scan.

A beating heart and working lungs are no good for a brain that can't do higher functions anymore. With those functions lost with no return, the person doesn't exist anymore. The unique patterns of neuron connections that made the person unique had been lost forever. The heart and lungs would be better off being transplanted into somebody with a working brain who needed replacement organs.

The body may look like the person the parents knew, but it can't act like Terri anymore. It seems to me that they wanted the body alive because it looked like Terri and because their beliefs promoted hope of the body acting like the Terri they knew again. But with all of that brain mass gone, never to return, in the parts important for higher functions, I'd consider such hopes to be misplaced.
 
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^Angel^ said:
Liebling and I may not see eye to eye on some things but we are still best friends....


Forgive me for going a bit off the topic, I had to say this.... :ily:

:ily: I know we understand each other pretty well when we agree to disagree each other... It´s boring to agree ALL the time.... sometimes it could be good when we share our opinions with agree to disagree until you or I see the sense what right or wrong... It´s great that we are open mind to this what we think... :hug:
 
Autumn Tree said:
I once read an article last year in which just a few hours after Terri passed away, Michael went straight to the court to claim her estate.

As far as I know Terri do not have life insurance? :confused: She has no money left for Michael... :dunno: The money for her treatments, courts, etc are gone.



But I do have the screenshot to prove that Terri did have estate and Michael had been keeping his eyes on that for quite a while.

You made it sound that Michael "tempt" to kill Terri for her estate? :confused:

I saw the article somewhere that Terri's parents wanted the money because they have fiancinal problem that´s time Michael live with them and take care of Terri.

Can you explain me why Michael refused to take $1 million offer from businessman to give legal guardian up? It show that he care about his wife and want to save his wife´s suffer. He rather suffered for her wife because he know his wife suffer than accept $1million. It look like that he know his wife well than Terri´s parents.


I'm pretty aware that Terri would never get her full health back...but, even if there was no no chance for her to recover from her it is not fair to consider her less than a human being just because she was unable to take care of herself. A person with a damaged brain IS a disabled person and also a human being too... and deserves a loving care as much as any able-bodied person. I'm pretty sure that had Terri been alive, she would NOT be treated like a doll...she would be treated like a beloved daughter and sister and a percious person by her family. :/ Human life is just too precious to be snuffed out like that.


Michael visited Terri more often than Terri´s parents did. He stay with her till her death. It shows that Michael know his wife more than Terri´s parents.

Unfortunlately yes, I saw Terri and her parents on the TV. To me, they play her like a doll.

Terri´s parents can´t accept the truth about Terri´s health issue and think Autopsy is not correct.



To answer netrox's question

There seems to be conflicting reports that Terri's parents did encourage Michael to date, hoping that he would forget all about Terri and move on with his life and his new girlfriend, but Michael would not give Terri up or turn her over to them. But, so far, we just don't have any concrete proof yet.

Question: Why Terri´s parents encouraged Michael to date and hope that Michael forget his wife and move on his life? It look like that they want Michael give legal guardian up to leave Terri with them to enjoy his life but Michael did not do that. They fall out thru money issues then Michael move out and take Terri back to nursing home. That´s how the problem began because the parents can´t accept to this and make scandal against Michael.........
 
Concerning this case about whether Terri Schiavo was better off dead or alive may want to read this (and it is from a point of view by a group of disabled people called "Not Dead Yet") --> Link
 
I saw the article somewhere that Terri's parents wanted the money because they have fiancinal problem that´s time Michael live with them and take care of Terri.

Can you explain me why Michael refused to take $1 million offer from businessman to give legal guardian up? It show that he care about his wife and want to save his wife´s suffer. He rather suffered for her wife because he know his wife suffer than accept $1million. It look like that he know his wife well than Terri´s parents.


I don't think the parents wanted the money for themselves...their wish was to use money to continue medicial therapy for Terri, I believe.


The reason Michael said no to offers from the businessman was because his lawyer George Felos advised him not to accept offers. I suspect that if it was not for his lawyer, Michael might possibly think about accepting the money, I think.


Michael visited Terri more often than Terri´s parents did. He stay with her till her death. It shows that Michael know his wife more than Terri´s parents.

Unfortunlately yes, I saw Terri and her parents on the TV. To me, they play her like a doll.

Terri´s parents can´t accept the truth about Terri´s health issue and think Autopsy is not correct.


It was because Michael did NOT allow Terri's parents to visit her very often or how long they can stay with her in her room...he kept a strict visitor list about who is allowed OR not allowed to visit her, with his permission. (Link )

And also, Terri's parents WANTED to stay with Terri until her death but Michael KICKED THEM OUT and would not let them come in until after she passed away. Nice guy, huh? ( Link )

That's true, Terri's parents were hoping that one day she might get better, but that just showed that they would not give up on her while Michael gave up pretty quickly and worked hard to let her die instead.


Well, I'm not sure if Terri's parents and Michael were fighting because of money from the beginning. There're too many conflicting articles about this. :/ Terri's parents said one verison what happened between them and Michael, and Michael said his own verison. It's hard to tell what REALLY happened between them. I only know that the Schindlers loved their daughter, and Michael's behavior were very questionable. :/
 
Liebling wrote Michael visited Terri more often than Terri´s parents did. He stay with her till her death. It shows that Michael know his wife more than Terri´s parents.

Unfortunlately yes, I saw Terri and her parents on the TV. To me, they play her like a doll.

Terri´s parents can´t accept the truth about Terri´s health issue and think Autopsy is not correct.
Do you know why Terri's parents could not be with her when she died? It was because Michael prevented them to see her when she was nearing her death. Her parents have visited Terri as much as Michael did but they couldn't be with her when she died because Michael had prevented that!

Her parents played her like a doll?? Oh please! They have loved her so much even if she wasn't a normal person anymore.

Being a mother yourself you should be able to understand what Terri's parents were going through with Terri dying from starvation.

It should have been God's decision not Michael's on when to take her into Heaven. God may have let her to live for some reasons.
 
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RebelGirl said:
There's no such King in the U.S. (that's for Heath)

the way i see it.. we've become one.. not two it takes 2 couples to make decisions.. not just the husband. but the husband had a right to what to do with his wife but i think its wrong with what he did. he should have considered giving terri to her parents.


" The Head of the Household " means the father.
 
Heath said:
" The Head of the Household " means the father.
:roll: @ Heath

It also means the same for a mother if a father isn't living in the house. Even though if a father is still in the house he and his wife are still equal!!!
 
RedFox said:

Thank you RedFox and here is the picture of the scan that RedFox provided. I have used the imageshack to get the medical picture of what the scan report looks like that RedFox provided.

 
ButterflyGirl said:
Do you know why Terri's parents could not be with her when she died? It was because Michael prevented them to see her when she was nearing her death. Her parents have visited Terri as much as Michael did but they couldn't be with her when she died because Michael had prevented that!

Her parents played her like a doll?? Oh please! They have loved her so much even if she wasn't a normal person anymore.

Being a mother yourself you should be able to understand what Terri's parents were going through with Terri dying from starvation.

It should have been God's decision not Michael's on when to take her into Heaven. He may have let her to live for some reasons.

Amen Amen Amen!!! Well said there girl :applause:
 
Amen! Autumn Tree and Butterflygirl :hug: :hug:


What some people don't understand that Terri’s life does not belong to the U.S. Congress, President Bush, Florida Governor Jeb Bush, the Florida court, Michael or Terri’s parents, Her life belongs to God and only God makes the final decision. Just like we cannot commit suicide, We cannot take someone's life and committed murder. Each of us would die somedays and only on God's terms. ;)


Just my two cents.
 
Cheri said:
Amen! Autumn Tree and Butterflygirl :hug: :hug:


What some people don't understand that Terri’s life does not belong to the U.S. Congress, President Bush, Florida Governor Jeb Bush, the Florida court, Michael or Terri’s parents, Her life belongs to God and only God makes the final decision. Just like we cannot commit suicide, We cannot take someone's life and committed murder. Each of us would die somedays and only on God's terms. ;)


Just my two cents.
Amen Amen Amen!! :applause:
 
Cheri said:
Amen! Autumn Tree and Butterflygirl :hug: :hug:


What some people don't understand that Terri’s life does not belong to the U.S. Congress, President Bush, Florida Governor Jeb Bush, the Florida court, Michael or Terri’s parents, Her life belongs to God and only God makes the final decision. Just like we cannot commit suicide, We cannot take someone's life and committed murder. Each of us would die somedays and only on God's terms. ;)


Just my two cents.


Right on sis....AMEN!!! :applause:
 
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