Second Ebola victim diagnoed in USA

I hope they contain it...scary.
 
I once learned in a sociology class that when the world is too overpopulated, nature will come up with a plague to take care of the problem..

Kind of a scary thought.
 
shel90 said:
I hope they contain it...scary.
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I don't think will happen the nurse's name is not being release so patients that been incontact with her could be spreading Ebola around unknowingly . I wonder if the nurse took her gloves off the wrong
way. When I was training to be a health aide we were told never to touch the outside of your gloves when taking them off. I had a client that had Aids and he had an open wound on his chest that I had to keep clean and I was sure to removes my gloves the correct way all the time. I think I heard the
hospital is trying to find all the people that been in contact with the nurse .
 
Here in Canada, we are having a few scares too. So far nothing that was actually Ebola, but still. Hopefully the person will come out of this all right, and hopefully their family feels safe, secure, and loved.


-Jason
 
Jason Paul said:
Here in Canada, we are having a few scares too. So far nothing that was actually Ebola, but still. Hopefully the person will come out of this all right, and hopefully their family feels safe, secure, and loved.


-Jason
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I thought news said it was ebola,that was today
 
She doesn't have Ebola, Yet! She has tested positive to being exposed, kinda like testing positive for exposure to TB.
 
Here are the facts about how Ebola spreads, as outlined by the World Health Organisation (WHO), the US Centres for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), and other official bodies.

You cannot get Ebola through the air

Ebola is not an airborne disease like influenza or chicken pox, and the WHO has categorically said reports suggesting that Ebola has mutated and become airborne are false.

"Airborne spread among humans implies inhalation of an infectious dose of virus from a suspended cloud of small dried droplets," it says.

"This mode of transmission has not been observed during extensive studies of the Ebola virus over several decades."

You cannot get Ebola through water

Ebola does not contaminate water supplies like cholera or dysentery do.

You cannot get Ebola from someone who is not already sick

Health news


For the latest on Ebola follow our Infectious Diseases page
The virus only appears in people's bodily fluids after they already have symptoms, so a carrier can't unknowingly spread it before they feel sick.

"The time from exposure to when signs or symptoms of the disease appear - the incubation period - is two to 21 days but the average time is eight to 10 days," the CDC says.

"Signs of Ebola include fever - higher than 38.6 degrees Celsius - and symptoms like severe headache, muscle pain, vomiting, diarrhea, stomach pain, or unexplained bleeding or bruising."

You cannot get Ebola from mosquitos

It isn't carried by insects the way dengue fever or Ross River fever are.

"There is no evidence that mosquitos or other insects can transmit Ebola virus," the CDC says. "Only mammals - for example, humans, bats, monkeys and apes - have shown the ability to spread and become infected with Ebola virus."


You cannot get Ebola from properly cooked food

Although Ebola has spread through the hunting, butchering and preparation of bush meat in Africa, it can't be transmitted through properly cooked food.

"If food products are properly prepared and cooked, humans cannot become infected by consuming them: the Ebola virus is inactivated through cooking," the WHO advises.

You can get Ebola from direct contact with the bodily fluids of an infectious person

This is the main method of transmission.

You can get Ebola if the blood, saliva, sweat, vomit, urine, semen or other bodily fluids of a sick person comes into direct contact with your broken skin or mucous membranes such as the mouth, nose, eyes or vagina.

Therefore, activities such as kissing, sharing food or having sex with an infectious person all provide potential for transmission. Needles are also a risk factor.

With Ebola, the most infectious bodily fluids are blood, faeces and vomit.

"The viral load in these fluids is enormous," notes Dominic Dwyer, the director of the Centre for Infectious Diseases in Sydney.

This means that healthcare workers who are treating Ebola patients, and the family and friends of infected people, are at the highest risk of getting sick.

If a person recovers from Ebola - the fatality rate in the current outbreak is about 50 per cent - sexual contact can remain risky.

"Men who have recovered from the disease can still transmit the virus through their semen for up to seven weeks after recovery from illness," the WHO says.

You can get Ebola from touching an infected surface

The Ebola virus can survive outside the body, so coming into direct contact with infected bodily fluids on surfaces such as bedding, clothing or furniture and then touching your eyes or mouth can spread the disease.

"Ebola is killed with hospital-grade disinfectants, such as household bleach," the CDC says.

"Ebola on dried on surfaces such as doorknobs and countertops can survive for several hours, however [the] virus in body fluids such as blood can survive up to several days at room temperature."

The virus can also survive on the skin of an infected person for several days, even after their death. The UK's National Health Service says this has meant traditional African burial rituals have played a part in Ebola's spread.

"The Ebola virus can survive for several days outside the body, including on the skin of an infected person, and it's common practice for mourners to touch the body of the deceased," the NHS says. "They only then need to touch their mouth to become infected."

You can (theoretically) get Ebola if an infectious person sneezes on you

"Common sense and observation tell us that spread of the virus via coughing or sneezing is rare, if it happens at all," the WHO says.

"Theoretically, wet and bigger droplets from a heavily infected individual, who has respiratory symptoms caused by other conditions or who vomits violently, could transmit the virus – over a short distance – to another nearby person.

"This could happen when virus-laden heavy droplets are directly propelled, by coughing or sneezing (which does not mean airborne transmission) onto the mucus membranes or skin with cuts or abrasions of another person.

"WHO is not aware of any studies that actually document this mode of transmission. On the contrary, good quality studies from previous Ebola outbreaks show that all cases were infected by direct close contact with symptomatic patients."

You can get Ebola from infected wild animals

In Africa, Ebola has spread to humans who eat infected wild animals without properly cooking them, or who otherwise come into contact with the bodily fluids of infected wild animals.

"It is thought that fruit bats of the Pteropodidae family are natural Ebola virus hosts," the WHO says.

"Ebola is introduced into the human population through close contact with the blood, secretions, organs or other bodily fluids of infected animals such as chimpanzees, gorillas, fruit bats, monkeys, forest antelope and porcupines found ill or dead or in the rainforest."

Also: viruses don't typically just 'go airborne'

Speculation that Ebola virus disease might mutate into a form that could easily spread among humans through the air is just that: speculation, unsubstantiated by any evidence.
World Health Organisation
In case you missed it, it bears repeating that Ebola is not an airborne disease.
 
Angel1989 said:
Makes traveling a little more frightening.
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Absolutely. If I hear it comes to Minnesota its gonna make me want to stay home. Extreme, I know, but ... They don't seem to have this under control.
 
Angel1989 said:
Here are the facts about how Ebola spreads, as outlined by the World Health Organisation (WHO), the US Centres for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), and other official bodies.

You cannot get Ebola through the air

Ebola is not an airborne disease like influenza or chicken pox, and the WHO has categorically said reports suggesting that Ebola has mutated and become airborne are false.

"Airborne spread among humans implies inhalation of an infectious dose of virus from a suspended cloud of small dried droplets," it says.

"This mode of transmission has not been observed during extensive studies of the Ebola virus over several decades."

You cannot get Ebola through water

Ebola does not contaminate water supplies like cholera or dysentery do.

You cannot get Ebola from someone who is not already sick

Health news


For the latest on Ebola follow our Infectious Diseases page
The virus only appears in people's bodily fluids after they already have symptoms, so a carrier can't unknowingly spread it before they feel sick.

"The time from exposure to when signs or symptoms of the disease appear - the incubation period - is two to 21 days but the average time is eight to 10 days," the CDC says.

"Signs of Ebola include fever - higher than 38.6 degrees Celsius - and symptoms like severe headache, muscle pain, vomiting, diarrhea, stomach pain, or unexplained bleeding or bruising."

You cannot get Ebola from mosquitos

It isn't carried by insects the way dengue fever or Ross River fever are.

"There is no evidence that mosquitos or other insects can transmit Ebola virus," the CDC says. "Only mammals - for example, humans, bats, monkeys and apes - have shown the ability to spread and become infected with Ebola virus."


You cannot get Ebola from properly cooked food

Although Ebola has spread through the hunting, butchering and preparation of bush meat in Africa, it can't be transmitted through properly cooked food.

"If food products are properly prepared and cooked, humans cannot become infected by consuming them: the Ebola virus is inactivated through cooking," the WHO advises.

You can get Ebola from direct contact with the bodily fluids of an infectious person

This is the main method of transmission.

You can get Ebola if the blood, saliva, sweat, vomit, urine, semen or other bodily fluids of a sick person comes into direct contact with your broken skin or mucous membranes such as the mouth, nose, eyes or vagina.

Therefore, activities such as kissing, sharing food or having sex with an infectious person all provide potential for transmission. Needles are also a risk factor.

With Ebola, the most infectious bodily fluids are blood, faeces and vomit.

"The viral load in these fluids is enormous," notes Dominic Dwyer, the director of the Centre for Infectious Diseases in Sydney.

This means that healthcare workers who are treating Ebola patients, and the family and friends of infected people, are at the highest risk of getting sick.

If a person recovers from Ebola - the fatality rate in the current outbreak is about 50 per cent - sexual contact can remain risky.

"Men who have recovered from the disease can still transmit the virus through their semen for up to seven weeks after recovery from illness," the WHO says.

You can get Ebola from touching an infected surface

The Ebola virus can survive outside the body, so coming into direct contact with infected bodily fluids on surfaces such as bedding, clothing or furniture and then touching your eyes or mouth can spread the disease.

"Ebola is killed with hospital-grade disinfectants, such as household bleach," the CDC says.

"Ebola on dried on surfaces such as doorknobs and countertops can survive for several hours, however [the] virus in body fluids such as blood can survive up to several days at room temperature."

The virus can also survive on the skin of an infected person for several days, even after their death. The UK's National Health Service says this has meant traditional African burial rituals have played a part in Ebola's spread.

"The Ebola virus can survive for several days outside the body, including on the skin of an infected person, and it's common practice for mourners to touch the body of the deceased," the NHS says. "They only then need to touch their mouth to become infected."

You can (theoretically) get Ebola if an infectious person sneezes on you

"Common sense and observation tell us that spread of the virus via coughing or sneezing is rare, if it happens at all," the WHO says.

"Theoretically, wet and bigger droplets from a heavily infected individual, who has respiratory symptoms caused by other conditions or who vomits violently, could transmit the virus – over a short distance – to another nearby person.

"This could happen when virus-laden heavy droplets are directly propelled, by coughing or sneezing (which does not mean airborne transmission) onto the mucus membranes or skin with cuts or abrasions of another person.

"WHO is not aware of any studies that actually document this mode of transmission. On the contrary, good quality studies from previous Ebola outbreaks show that all cases were infected by direct close contact with symptomatic patients."

You can get Ebola from infected wild animals

In Africa, Ebola has spread to humans who eat infected wild animals without properly cooking them, or who otherwise come into contact with the bodily fluids of infected wild animals.

"It is thought that fruit bats of the Pteropodidae family are natural Ebola virus hosts," the WHO says.

"Ebola is introduced into the human population through close contact with the blood, secretions, organs or other bodily fluids of infected animals such as chimpanzees, gorillas, fruit bats, monkeys, forest antelope and porcupines found ill or dead or in the rainforest."

Also: viruses don't typically just 'go airborne'

Speculation that Ebola virus disease might mutate into a form that could easily spread among humans through the air is just that: speculation, unsubstantiated by any evidence.
World Health Organisation
In case you missed it, it bears repeating that Ebola is not an airborne disease.
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The nurse took all the necessary precautions and still got it , something did not work out right . I wonder just how well we're trained to deal with Ebola .
I heard some expert say on TV he does not think we and it looks like the guy was right.
 
whatdidyousay! said:
The nurse took all the necessary precautions and still got it , something did not work out right . I wonder just how well we're trained to deal with Ebola .
I heard some expert say on TV he does not think we and it looks like the guy was right.
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All it takes is one little mistake to contaminate yourself and she obviously made what could turn out to be a fatal mistake. I hope not. However, not everyone who tests positive gets Ebola it just means they have been exposed to it.
 
seb said:
She doesn't have Ebola, Yet! She has tested positive to being exposed, kinda like testing positive for exposure to TB.
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I'm not sure how can you be tested positive to being exposed to ebola and not have it..... that doesn't make any sense.

you either are infected or not. period.
 
Jiro said:
I'm not sure how can you be tested positive to being exposed to ebola and not have it..... that doesn't make any sense.

you either are infected or not. period.
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Some people can be carriers of a certain disease and not show signs of it or appear sick. Such as HIV a person can be a carrier for years and spread the disease not knowing they have it and show no signs of it. Called the incubation period it varies from person to person.
 
ncff07 said:
Some people can be carriers of a certain disease and not show signs of it or appear sick. Such as HIV a person can be a carrier for years and spread the disease not knowing they have it and show no signs of it. Called the incubation period it varies from person to person.
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then you are "tested positive for HIV"... not "tested positive for exposure to HIV"... that's nonsensical. you can still spread HIV to other people
 
caz12 said:
I thought news said it was ebola,that was today
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They may have... To be honest, I've become confused. :P Can someone please clear this up for me? Does the nurse actually have Ebola right now, or did she test positive for exposure?


-Jason
 
ncff07 said:
Some people can be carriers of a certain disease and not show signs of it or appear sick. Such as HIV a person can be a carrier for years and spread the disease not knowing they have it and show no signs of it. Called the incubation period it varies from person to person.
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But the woman did show signs, and did appear sick. She self-monitored and realized that she had Ebola symptoms. That's why she turned herself in to the hospital. That means, she is not a carrier--she has an active case of Ebola.
 
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