National Debt at $7 Trillion!

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Y said:
LOL about trim these bushes... :lol:

Please excuse my ignorance...I wonder
if these expenses for both Iraq war
and 9/11 are tax deductible anyway ????

tax deductible? nah we are actually paying thru the nose on both events!
 
Y said:
I recently saw TV that these teachers
used to have good salaries in the past,
but not anymore... for the recent few years,
they had much lower salaries than
before.
(i'm talking about salary, not benefits)

Well, I'm referring to Ontario, Canada.

What you see on TV news especially when it come to unions, it tend to be distorted when it come to the truth. They make all these claims that make it sound so horrific when it isn't.

In USA, there are many cities who don't pay the educators enough, but that's because the states abuse their power so much and spend money on themselves when it should be spent on education instead.

Leave No Child Behind Act is a joke, y'all know that?

It's very underfunded, just like the education system is.
 
tekkmortal said:
Looks like our teachers are going to give him a "F" in November.

LOL at both oddball and tekkmortal.... haha
 
Banjo said:
Well, the Healthcare System here is pretty flawed too. Plus, the doctors run off to the USA so they can collect hundreds of thousands annually.

really interesting... heard that
many americans are buying
cheaper medicines from Canada...
 
not only from Canada but also from MEXICO cuz its cheeper there too
 
Banjo said:
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In USA, there are many cities who don't pay the educators enough, but that's because the states abuse their power so much and spend money on themselves when it should be spent on education instead.

Leave No Child Behind Act is a joke, y'all know that?

It's very underfunded, just like the education system is.

That is very true. My feeling was that NCLB was more of a ploy to undermine the public school system and direct the taxpayer dollars into private school vouchers.

I read my local system test results a while ago......The schools in the poor areas were worse off with a huge % of failures compared to only 1 or 2 failures in the richer districts. Pretty huge imbalance can ya say eh?
 
Fly Free said:
not only from Canada but also from MEXICO cuz its cheeper there too

Yes, but people prefer Canada because they have high standards when it come to approving medicines.

Mexico, I shudder to think of it.
 
sablescort said:
That is very true. My feeling was that NCLB was more of a ploy to undermine the public school system and direct the taxpayer dollars into private school vouchers.

I read my local system test results a while ago......The schools in the poor areas were worse off with a huge % of failures compared to only 1 or 2 failures in the richer districts. Pretty huge imbalance can ya say eh?

whoa thats huge definately! *smh* -- ive long dis-believed in the Bush administration with their NCLB Act along with other issues :roll:
 
Banjo said:
Yes, but people prefer Canada because they have high standards when it come to approving medicines.

Mexico, I shudder to think of it.

yea but if its common drugs thats cheeper there in mexico than it is here in the states and those who are living in the southern parts of the states would head down to Mexico -- i guess it depends on which drug theyre buying down there
 
Fly Free said:
whoa thats huge definately! *smh* -- ive long dis-believed in the Bush administration with their NCLB Act along with other issues :roll:

It doesn't matter, because it has been happening for YEARS and nobody's doing anything about it.

The states can do whatever they want to with the cash, and more are probably spent on the prisons compared to the education systems and they're even cash-strapped for more prison funding!

It should be up to the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT to fund the education system, not the states.
 
Banjo said:
Yes, but people prefer Canada because they have high standards when it come to approving medicines.

Mexico, I shudder to think of it.

Not to mention that essentially Canada is re-exporting the prescription meds that they imported from us when we Americans come up to Canada to buy the drugs there.

The nitwits at FDA thinks Canadian drugs are unsafe than ones bought in the USA....I say BULLSHIT! Essentially its just pretty the same thing not to mention calling an American-made product unsafe for Americans. :crazy: fuckers.
 
Banjo said:
It doesn't matter, because it has been happening for YEARS and nobody's doing anything about it.

The states can do whatever they want to with the cash, and more are probably spent on the prisons compared to the education systems and they're even cash-strapped for more prison funding!

It should be up to the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT to fund the education system, not the states.

yea im aware of the arguments surrounding the prison funding and building more high tech prisons to make them escape proof and all that shit -- i agree it should be up to the feds for the education system to bring it back up to par and stick with the higher standards that are expected of the kids along with providing some sort of support system for kids with special needs that they would need while being educated growing up
 
sablescort said:
Not to mention that essentially Canada is re-exporting the prescription meds that they imported from us when we Americans come up to Canada to buy the drugs there.

The nitwits at FDA thinks Canadian drugs are unsafe than ones bought in the USA....I say BULLSHIT! Essentially its just pretty the same thing not to mention calling an American-made product unsafe for Americans. :crazy: fuckers.

Ah, I just remembered something. I have read that there is a HUGE flaw in the healthcare system in the USA.

At least a trillion is spent on healthcare annually, and hundreds of these billions goes into the rich folks' pockets and the commercial budgets to promote their frickin' drugs when their doctors simply could just recommend the drug to their patients at no extra cost!

That's why so many people get crappy services at their hospitals, and if they do stop the rich folks from putting the cash into their pockets and spending it on commercials to turn a profit.... you will see a HUGE difference in the quality of healthcare!
 
Want to prevent more crime in the future?

START with EDUCATION. That should be the first priority the next President should deal with besdies the National Debt and untangling the Iraq mess.

If we educate as much kids and give them opportunities, then we could see prison populations drop like a rock, but it's a long shot.
 
sablescort said:
Want to prevent more crime in the future?

START with EDUCATION. That should be the first priority the next President should deal with besdies the National Debt and untangling the Iraq mess.

If we educate as much kids and give them opportunities, then we could see prison populations drop like a rock, but it's a long shot.

Yup, and it is a fact that USA has the LARGEST prison population in the world.
 
sablescort said:
Want to prevent more crime in the future?

START with EDUCATION. That should be the first priority the next President should deal with besdies the National Debt and untangling the Iraq mess.

If we educate as much kids and give them opportunities, then we could see prison populations drop like a rock, but it's a long shot.

Actually paying teachers' salary is the states' responsiblity not the federal government. Would be nice if the federal government pays some of it. Some states are ignoring teachers because they are not doing enough to the students.
 
Banjo said:
Ah, I just remembered something. I have read that there is a HUGE flaw in the healthcare system in the USA.

At least a trillion is spent on healthcare annually, and hundreds of these billions goes into the rich folks' pockets and the commercial budgets to promote their frickin' drugs when their doctors simply could just recommend the drug to their patients at no extra cost!

That's why so many people get crappy services at their hospitals, and if they do stop the rich folks from putting the cash into their pockets and spending it on commercials to turn a profit.... you will see a HUGE difference in the quality of healthcare!

Exactly my sentiments. Too much advertising for prescription drugs are one of the factors besides the R & D in sky-high prescription costs.

Also dont forget high malpractice insurance premiums is driving doctors away from the profession too.
 
sablescort said:
Exactly my sentiments. Too much advertising for prescription drugs are one of the factors besides the R & D in sky-high prescription costs.

Also dont forget high malpractice insurance premiums is driving doctors away from the profession too.


I am blaming the high costs of prescriptions on free market not the government.
 
tekkmortal said:
I am blaming the high costs of prescriptions on free market not the government.

Well both the government and the free market is to blame.

The Government is to blame for not putting the price limits on prescriptions and allowing the companies to advertise drugs in magazines that contribute to the high cost of health care.

O brother, we got a fine mess to untangle ahead!
 
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