Mental Health Experts have serious lack of ethics:

let us not quibble.....

:fruit:
 
:lol: sure!!

Basically everyone has their opinions.

But when the crap gets sticky is when they start slinging it.

The topic of the thread becomes lost,

That is when the shit slinging turns to a pissing contest.

:lol:
 
jillio said:
Opinions are like ass holes. Everyone has one

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This is a statement I really dislike and one that is totally untrue.

It implies that all opinions are alike and that no opinion has value or use.

While it is true that many opinions are of little or no value it is also true that many opinions are destructive in one form or another and others are extremely useful.

An example can be the title of this thread.

There are people of the opinion no one can help them regardless of training, skill, or intent. This opinion is both destructive and wasteful of the person's time who tries to help them.

Believing the title of this thread in its entirety might very well cause the person who holds it to not seek professional help they desperately need, or it might provide the holder an excuse to not seek the help they need but do not want.

On the other hand holding the opinion that mental health care professionals are to be trusted without question could lead to one more horror story.

While holding the opinion that anyone you entrust your health and welfare to should be investigated thoroughly and it should be determined that their fundamental beliefs should be in sync with your own would be objectively a very useful opinion.

My personal opinion that you can only become mentally and emotionally healthy if you strive for it and that the tools are out there, often in unexpected places, is an opinion that is both useful and has value.

The Timothy Leary approach that "authority" in this case definitions of mental health, should be questioned and that people should form informed opinions of their own -- also has value.

An ass hole that functions correctly has both value and use -- Every one should strive to have the best one possible.

The same is true of opinions.
 
One thing that I agree with is the importance of nurses monitoring care. Nurses are in a position to observe breaches of duty and advocate for patients.

In the past, mental ward conditions have been horrible, as late as the 1940's. My uncle who is a journalist told me about what he learned researching the issue. The conditions he described would never exist today because there would be litigation. Some attorneys specialize in bad nursing home cases.

Paralegals draft documents and these documents must be reviewed by a licensed attorney. I think that PA's operate in a similar way. A doctor probably has to review the records and prescriptions.
 
Some nursing home are hard because of high turnover rate. Lots of time I had to care for 30 rooms because someone didn't show up for work. That's 60 residents (comatose, veggie state, and people who simply can not walk on their own).
 
sallylou said:
In the past, mental ward conditions have been horrible, as late as the 1940's. My uncle who is a journalist told me about what he learned researching the issue. The conditions he described would never exist today because there would be litigation. Some attorneys specialize in bad nursing home cases.
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Nurse Ratched!
 
As someone who works in a field that is often stigmatized due to the negative views society has on it, I am sure there are mental health experts who put their heart and souls into this field only to be underappreciated by society because of a few bad apples.

I dont blame Jillio for her reaction.
 
Berry said:
This is a statement I really dislike and one that is totally untrue.

It implies that all opinions are alike and that no opinion has value or use.

While it is true that many opinions are of little or no value it is also true that many opinions are destructive in one form or another and others are extremely useful.

An example can be the title of this thread.

There are People of the opinion no one can help them regardless of training, skill, or intent. This opinion is both destructive and wasteful of the person's time who tries to help them.

Believing the title of this thread in its entirety might very well cause the person who holds it to not seek professional help they desperately need, or it might provide the holder an excuse to not seek the help they need but do not want.

On the other hand holding the opinion that mental health care professionals are to be trusted without question could lead to one more horror story.

While holding the opinion that anyone you entrust your health and welfare to should be investigated thoroughly and it should be determined that their fundamental beliefs should be in sync with your own would be objectively a very useful opinion.

My personal opinion that you can only become mentally and emotionally healthy if you strive for it and that the tools are out there, often in unexpected places, is an opinion that is both useful and has value.

The Timothy Leary approach that "authority" in this case definitions of mental health, should be questioned and that people should form informed opinions of their own -- also has value.

An ass hole that functions correctly has both value and use -- Every one should strive to have the best one possible.

The same is true of opinions.
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Indeed!!

On the bolded


But regarding the wasteful part. You are speaking of.

Is probably the crap slinging.

:lol:
 
shel90 said:
As someone who works in a field that is often stigmatized due to the negative views society has on it, I am sure there are mental health experts who put their heart and souls into this field only to be underappreciated by society because of a few bad apples.

I dont blame Jillio for her reaction.
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Thank you shel. The end point is, you are not responsible for the behavior of all teachers, and I am not responsible for all mental health professionals. To assume so, or to act as if that is so, is the same as saying all deaf people are rude just because you met one person who happened to be deaf and rude both.
 
deafskeptic said:
Did you know that the actress who played Ratched is a CODA?
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Yep. When Louise Fletcher accepted her Oscar for playing Nurse Ratchet she signed a "thank you" message to her parents.
 
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