Love is not important.

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Everybody is different.

I am sorry that I can't love the way you guys love.

Sorry I am 33, will be 34 next week, but you can't teach an old dog new trick...
It is too late....
I know what I want, and I am happy that way.

I don't appreciate a boy named Eric, at California try to force me
to do something that I don't understand.

There is nothing, there is no cure, and counselors can't do anything about it, and no drugs can cure me...

If this is what I am, this is who I am.

I am just saying that Love is not important, because I live 34 years without it...

If that is the only way for me to express myself... that is sort of like love, for me, it is. I don't think I am throwing myself to men, I just want a little bit of love... by a hug, and a little sex every now and then.....

I wish there isn't AIDS or STD's or whatever out there...

And I wish the self righteous people would cool it down,,, and
let me live my life the way that I want to... Let's live, let's live.

I don't need any pressure....
Stop shovel it down in my throat.

I am so angry right now, that I am about to cry.
I just can't do it. I can't love like that...
I wish all men would be honest, stop decieving, and stop hurting
women like that... and change their ways...
Then I could be able to have an easy time with men. :kiss:
 
TTT said:
I am sorry that I can't love the way you guys love.

Sorry I am 33, will be 34 next week, but you can't teach an old dog new trick...
It is too late....
I know what I want, and I am happy that way.

I don't appreciate a boy named Eric, at California try to force me
to do something that I don't understand.

There is nothing, there is no cure, and counselors can't do anything about it, and no drugs can cure me...

If this is what I am, this is who I am.

I am just saying that Love is not important, because I live 34 years without it...

If that is the only way for me to express myself... that is sort of like love, for me, it is. I don't think I am throwing myself to men, I just want a little bit of love... by a hug, and a little sex every now and then.....

I wish there isn't AIDS or STD's or whatever out there...

And I wish the self righteous people would cool it down,,, and
let me live my life the way that I want to... Let's live, let's live.

I don't need any pressure....
Stop shovel it down in my throat.

I am so angry right now, that I am about to cry.
I just can't do it. I can't love like that...
I wish all men would be honest, stop decieving, and stop hurting
women like that... and change their ways...
Then I could be able to have an easy time with men. :kiss:


You are entitled to your opinions. We are not here to shove our opinions down your throat. This is a debating forum and we only put in our own 2 cents. I just thought I would share my experiences with you because I strongly believe that love is important but you dont have to take it. I know that you are hurting and pain oftens veils everything else. I just hope that one day you will eventually realize that love is important :)
 
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TTT said:
Men are too hard to be with.
I am not a lesbian or anything like that.
Why not be by myself?
I can raise my own child... after
I get a job.

It is too stupid to compete over
some stupid men...
And do whatever to keep him forever.

As if Love is not important.
Oh forget about it. I'll go to the sperm bank. :bye:

i am curious what you really want from a man? a perfect man or ?? same way . some men feel about women.. some men and women are stupid.. well . i feel i havent got a right woman yet. what love will you find?..go to sperm bank and explain to your sperm kids where the dad is..it will be on your own plms. what keep you forever? you sound so sad woman need love from bad childhood. maybe i am wrong.
 
well.

I have Treacher Collins Syndrome...
and you know men are cheap and stingy...
They will use me... It is hard to demand
man to give me roses, and all....

If I am a normal looking woman, men would
have to go to and spend $1,000 on a diamond ring.

But since I am not normal looking, men would
go to Kmart and buy me less than $100 on a diamond ring.

And the dark skinned black man came to me and said I won't
date him because I am light skinned black woman.

I was like, WTF??? I wanted to telll him that skin doesn't matter,
my face is.... I just don't want to freak him out because of my face...
And I am shy... It is not because of skin that I didn't respond the
way he expected me too.

SO I was like, oh forget him, since he rather be immature that way.

But anyway... I feel I won't ever get married, or have normal children, or
whatever.....
And it isn't fair that I can't learn film or do film,,, I feel
that it will give me a purpose in life...
But people rather take that dream away from me....

That is why I scorn people who do me wrong... backstabbing me...
Especially to men who want to use me, I tell them...
If your face gets mess up in car accident, you would understand
how hard it is for me... you wouldn't want people to treat you different like that...

That woman who worked as secretary at the doctor's office, she kept
hanging up on me, because she didn't have any patient with me, using relay service... and I told her, if you were deaf and want somebody to you, you wouldn't want anybody to hang up on you!!!!

And then she wants me to get my mother to talk for me, I cussed that
woman out.... and finally she accepts my relay service calls, and
gave me an appointment.

Some People are STUPID... and ignorant, they don't understand nothing...
Especially some men, they are stupid...
I don't want them to treat me like they treated their ex lovers.
Why the fuck they show up at 3 am, when I allowed them to borrow
my car???

And I asked a guy name Jeff, what if I am pregnant, and
he said he will leave me if I am.
Men should not have sex, if they are going to be irresponsible like that.
And it will be difficult for me to get job and be able to take care
child myself.

What the hell? I don't want anymore burden on me...
What, he wants me to have abortion if I am pregnant...???
What? He wants me to live off welfare and his child support
and me living in a cheap house???

I AM ANGRY, I DON'T WANT MEN TO APPROACH ME IF THEY
GONNA TREAT ME LIKE SHIT!!! THAT IS WHY I AM SO MAD AT
THAT DUMB JEFF PECOT!!!

I WILL MAKE SURE HE REGRETTED HE EVER MET SOMEONE LIKE ME.
I DON'T HAVE TIME TO PLAY GAMES AND I DON'T WANT TO PUT UP
WITH MEN BULLSHIT!!!! AND I DON'T WANT THEM TO WASTE MY TIME!!!

JEFF PECOT GOT A DAUGHTER NOW BY HIS NEW WIFE, I JUST HOPE
MEN TREAT HIS DAUGHTER THE SAME WAY HE TREATED ME...
I JUST HOPE MEN DOG HIS DAUGHTER AND BREAK HER HEART.
THEN HE'LL UNDERSTAND.

I am sorry that I am stupid, and can't cook, and can't be compatible
with men, but that don't mean they have the right to treat me like shit.
I am sorry that I don't do homemake. I am sorry that I ain't like your mother.
I am sorry that I don't know how to love. I am sorry that I didn't respond right.

But don't destroy my life by revenging me like that.

And I DON"T know why I wanna marry someone like that, if I gotta
be PERFECT in every way... all time, and stuff.

MEN don't understand that, they think wives suppose to be PERFECT...

SUppose to have a perfect figure, can't get old, have to cook perfect,
and be good mother to their kids...
WELL TOO BAD, IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.

LOok at LACI PETERSON, she was the perfect WIFE, she could cook
and look like a good mother and give good love and sex to her husband...
But it is ashame that SCOTT Peterson KILLED HER anyway...

So what different does it make,,, anyway.
I am just gonna be myself, if men don't like it, then get the FUCCK OUT OF MY FACE!!!!!
 
I think you are better off being alone then. Because, You already said that You think all men want to used you. But Honestly not every guy on earth. Yes it is tough finding the right one. Believe me I went through that myself too. For a while I didn't care much about relationships. I like being by myself and having my whole freedom to do whatever I wish. I always thought that men are controling when it comes to marriage, Like they take your rights away from having friends, going places, have your own car, your own job. But, not every guy do control, there some guys out there that give you much freedom you want whatever makes you happy, then he is happy. You cannot blame every guy out there as dogs like you think they are because honestly, not all of them are dogs. heh! I hope somedays you will go pass your anger against guys and consider guys a chance. I know there is one out there for you, a soul mate someone you have so much in common with, someone that can make you happy, someone to love and be faithful to you. You'll find that but it doesn't take a day, It might take years, months, days, weeks. Just be patient when the time is right and place then you'll find happiness. Some women out there have gone so far worst than what you are having with guys. Some women been beaten, killed by their own husbands or boyfriends.. But some of them did found love again with someone new and someone better. There is always a second chance at love. Why not give it a try and see. Don't rush yourself into love, just take your time go slow and see what happen in the later future. :hug:
 
Yes I will go ahead and be alone.

It is the best thing for me. I don't have to be with guys.
I'm gonna be by myself and make friends.
My sister might move back to Florida, and I might go live there
and maybe get my dream job there.
After I get my job, and work, and get myself a house.
And I'll go to the sperm bank... and create a child....

:wave:

I don't want no man. And I am not a lesbian either. I ain't taken any chance
with my heart.

That is it. End of the Discussion. :ily:
 
men didn't give me any chance

They rather paint me as a bad person.
Or walk all over me...
make me look like a slut or whatever....

I can be a good lover, loyal, good wife, and a good mother, too.

If I need to improve my cooking, I will go to cook school if
my future husband wants me to.

Look at Amy Fisher, Buttafualo turned her into a whore and
make everyone think she is a monster... brainwashed her...
made her go crazy... Now Amy Fisher got out of prison for attempted murder... And she is married and raise 2 children, and she is a good
wife, good mother too.
Her husband would not gave her a chance if he knew who she was...
but too late, he already fell in love with her... and she confesses
and they got married. Reason why her husband didn't know who she was, cause she had nose job and dyed her hair.

So I don't think I want to go to that extreme like having a nose job,
and dyeing my hair, get my name change, just to get a man.
I don't want to, if men don't want me, then fine, they are ignorant...
fuck them.

I hope that I get my dream job in FLorida, and then create a child
and be the best mother I can be for that child...
So me, my child, my sister, and her child, will go to Disney World
every year in Florida if we want to.

Now finally... END OF DISCUSSION. :)
 
good luck!
 
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TTT, I can assure you that not all men are bad. There are plenty of bad apples out there (same with the women too).
There are men out there that will take the time to get to know you and not use your faults against you. Not all of them walk on the people they are with. Some guys do wait for sex...some actually want to develop a meaningful relationship before sex. It sounds like you don't want love because you have never experienced it. When I was younger, I had a seriously warped sense of what 'love' was. I later realized just how wrong I was.
Not all men are pigs, and there is the right one out there somewhere. You just need to take the past experiences learn from them instead of becoming so bitter about them. Seems there is a lot of anger, and its probably there for good reason....but it seems your letting your anger get the best of you.
I know you don't want to hear a guy say 'Trust Me' but please do when I tell you not all men are that bad, and there are guys that feel the same way you do.
 
yeah

Yeah, there are some good men out there. I let the women have them.
I can just be by myself. And plus I need to go to the genetic
clinic... anyway. So that I won't give birth to a baby with Treacher Collins
Syndrome. It would be a great medical research, though.

It would be cool to have a baby by myself...
I can name the child, using my last name.

;)
 
Hi TTT,

I wanted to say that I understand how you are feeling and why you are soo angry toward men as I didn't know anything about ' Treacher Collins Syndrome ' until Roadrunner gave me a link , I read a story about this girl who has the same condition as you had said above, and I thought if I show you a link, maybe you could read what this girl had said about hers.....I'm really impress with her personality , how she stuggle with the condition she has etc...Maybe if you could talk to her or have any question that you may have about Treacher Collins Syndrome then I am sure she is the person that can help you to make you feel better about yourself....

http://www.treachercollins.org/main.html

I also would like to add that I don't blame you for feeling this way TTT, but if I can be more of a help , then feel free to pm me ;)

Hang in there girl! :hug:
 
TTT,

As long as you're happy, then don't worry too much. Enjoy your holidays!
 
why?

I know about that Treacher Colin Syndrome organization...

I went to church today... and the preacher asked
the single mothers... if they can't afford to give
children's Christmas presents... to come up to the alters.

And 40 women stood up and went to the alters.
And the preacher gave $200 to each of those women.

Those women need men to help them out...

So me, I don't need a man, because I can do well by myself...

There are a lot of women who need LOVE.
And alot of women don't have a man.

So why do I need a special treatment...
If men won't love them, why do they want me for???

My mom worked so hard as a single parent...
She struggled so much, and my dad did not do anything.
I guess he doesn't love me, mom, and my sister enough
to take care of us.

I learned so much from my mom, and she did very well...
So ha, I don't need a man.. or love,, I gonna leave men alone.

:nono:
 
Interesting site, Angel. The young woman with TCS really inspired me with her positive attitude.

TTT, Taylor is right. Too bad there aren't more guys like Taylor and his honesty.

I know you've made your mind up on love and men but hopefully one day you ll find love and realize how it is important, afterall. Love is the most valued and treasured emotion a human can ever experience or give.
 
Taylor said:
TTT, I can assure you that not all men are bad. There are plenty of bad apples out there (same with the women too).
There are men out there that will take the time to get to know you and not use your faults against you. Not all of them walk on the people they are with. Some guys do wait for sex...some actually want to develop a meaningful relationship before sex. It sounds like you don't want love because you have never experienced it. When I was younger, I had a seriously warped sense of what 'love' was. I later realized just how wrong I was.
Not all men are pigs, and there is the right one out there somewhere. You just need to take the past experiences learn from them instead of becoming so bitter about them. Seems there is a lot of anger, and its probably there for good reason....but it seems your letting your anger get the best of you.
I know you don't want to hear a guy say 'Trust Me' but please do when I tell you not all men are that bad, and there are guys that feel the same way you do.
Good post :thumb:

I completely forget about this topic, I was planning to post my opinion right after Liebling:))) *poked* me in her post(s). But Taylor covers everything... It is true that all men are not that bad. Yes, I admit that men can be stupid at the point but not all of them are.

TTT, I am sure that men (and women) went thru the same situation you are going thru right now. As Taylor said, it will be best for you if you did not let your anger overcome you. If you want to make the best out of everything for you and yourself, change the attitude. That's a first step for you. It is only way to get better and move on along with your life. I had that bad moment myself with women for a while when I broke up with my recent ex. I was betrayed and hurt by my recent ex. It took a while for me to overcome my anger and changed my attitude. Once I did, my life sudden getting and getting better. I am currently dating a pretty gal.. If I didn't change my attitude, I don't think that date of mine would approach me and ask me for go out with her at some place.

Change the attitude, the missing puzzle pieces will fit in the puzzle nicely. Keep your chin up no matter what.

Edit: Of course I didn't share my anger with anyone. I kept these to myself until I finally overcome and move on.
 
Yeah but

You guys aren't listening.

Men don't want me. Maybe a few man, because they feel sorry for me.

I don't want them to feel sorry for me. And I don't want lesbians either.

I am at home, at peace. I didn't do anything destructive.

But everytime I go out to college or somewhere, where men are...
they bother me. I don't want them to bother me.
Then they be so sad cause I don't want them.
And they took away my childhood dream,,, I was at college,
studying film... but they did everything they could to block
me from studying film.

I don't want a man, I don't want love, I don't want lesbian,
I just want to study film.

I did not go to CSUN or Gallaudet for dating service, I went to
college to get my education, is that what college is for???

If I want men so badly I would go to the club, to pick one up there.

If I have to cut off my hair and become bald, and not take bath anymore, wear no dress or anything cute.... put myself in the mental institution...
do whatever I have to get that tv degree, and to study film...
and to keep men away, then I will do the extreme.
You guys have NO IDEA, what I had to do to get that degree and to study film or whatever.

They stole my bike, my roommates on purpose got me in trouble...
It was the CONSPIRACY, to stop me from getting an education...
And it is ashame.... it is such ashame...

And that Eric Bonales and other guys, they turned me OFF,
why do they think I would ever be interesting in them after
what they did to me.

I had the right to concentrate and focus on getting a degree first
before I settle down with a guy, if Gallaudet gave me a tv degree 5 years ago, then I wouldn't be in this DAMN mess in the first place.

I am so DISGUSTING with men...
they were controlling me!!!!!

If a man likes you, look OUT!!!!! Cause he'll be determine to GET YOU!!!!
Once he sees something he likes, he won't stop until he gets what he wants.

Geez, I got Treacher Collins Syndrome, and I am no Halle Berry.
I don't know what it is that men want me so much. Right now, I am pissed off, I don't want men anymore. After what they did to me...
They were so UNFAIR.

1. Why men act that way?
2. Why I couldn't get an education and a degree?
3. Why me?

:type:
 
Oh ok. Now I finally understand why you are angry about. If you don't want to love men then it is great. Focus on your education or your needs. It is far important for you to have that... That's where your future will be construct and 'set' the bridge over the river for you to walk over to be success.

Even though I don't understand why these people are trying to stop you from becoming success in your education or your future. Actually all of us have the same problem with other people. It is a Crab Theory, it happen to everyone. Fight for your future. Fight for your success. Fight for your happiness.
 
anddd

And I get tired of people always comparing me to another TCS person.
Just because that person got good and nice personality

doesn't mean I have to act that way too.

You wouldn't want people to judge you either,,,
saying that you need to have a nice personality because
all other deaf people are nice.

Everybody is different. I am different. Just like one cup of Orange Juice
tastes better than the other cup of Orange Juice.

I want to be unique, I want to be different, I don't want to do
what everybody else does. Can't make me change.
Can't force someone to change.
Not all puppies can be the same, one bad and the other one shy.

Reason why that TCS girl you talked to has nice personality, because
she didn't grow up the kind of environment I grew up in.
She got her dad and mom, but I got my mom and no dad around.
She didn't go to Gallaudet, but I did.

If I had the kind of life she has, I wouldn't act this way either.

God gave me freewill, and I have a choice, if I want to act this way,
then I will act this way. I am not going to be a fake.

And have you watch the movie, "Frances", the actress? Her mom and
Hollywood forced her to change, but she refused... and
they shocked her brain at the mental institute.
She didn't want to be an actress anymore, she wanted a normal life such as going to college and get married and have kids,
but her mom and agents want her to be actress forever.

It was so sad.
And I don't want people to do that to me... I want to go out and do
whatever I want to do, it is my life.... and I want to be happy. :pissed:
 
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