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ravensteve1961

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Heres an interesting topic. Why can casinos be built all over america. But theres the thing. It is run by the state the casino is in. The reason for this states have been so successful rasing revenue instead by rasing taxes. Lottos and lotteries has helped the states out in some revinues like schools,Nursing homes and other things. Casinos can bring in a bigger amount to the states. Right now i think this is a good idea to put casinos an the big cities in america like in New york,Phily,Baltimore, Richmond, Winson Salem, Atlanta, tampa and miami.Plus many more.Plus!!! It will add more jobs as well! So what you think?
 
I do not support any kind of gambling. IMO.
 
Well its better than raising taxes. Plus its more employment. Why pay $300 to fly to vegas? when you can gamble in your city?
 
my option its not a good idea... here in minnesota.. all casinos are in small town where the native-americans own them.. i think there's a total of 13 casino locations across minnesota all of them are on Native-american reservation.. means government don't control it..
if there's one in big cities.. where will all the casino addict be? gambling 24/7.. that's funny.. and not a good choice... leading more bums IMO means more welfare, more SSI, more SSDI, which cost more.. plus cost more for security.
 
Rsteve, gambling, especially the lottery ARE taxes of another sort called regressive taxes. Even if the largest percent of the lottery monies goes to education, it is still a tax by another name.
 
They have been trying to bring slots to Maryland for quite some time and it is a debate that comes around every year. Each year, it gets closer and closer to happening. I think it will happen in the next year or two. One thing I find interesting is the amount of people that travel from Maryland into surrounding states to go gambling. Delaware and New Jersey are just a few hours away and many people go as a day trip.

I've never understood why the politicians that oppose it still support the MD Lottery. If your against gambling, then fine, but shouldn't you be against all gambling? I don't see gambling at the 7-11 on lottery tickets any different than dropping quarters into a slot machine.

The part that bothers me about how its done is how lies are told to make it happen. Here in Maryland, some lottery games were created because they would put money into schools. Instead of funding education, it paid for new statiums (Hey Steve...How do ya' like Camden Yards :) )

Here is an older article from the Washington Post. It is pretty old but the things that were in the works at that time came to happen. The 'regular' lottery was to fund schools while 'sports lottery' was to pay for stadiums. The money ran out so they tapped into the Regular lottery to pay for the stadiums.

Stadiums Need More Support

For years, supporters of Baltimore's publicly financed baseball and football stadiums have argued that Marylanders voluntarily paid for the structures by buying lottery tickets dedicated specifically for the Stadium Authority.

No longer. The Maryland Lottery now says that sales of the sports-related games have sagged so much that it needs permission to use proceeds from other lottery games to pay for the stadiums for baseball's Orioles and football's Ravens. Sen. Thomas L. Bromwell (D-Baltimore County), chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, has obliged the agency by introducing a bill to that effect.

The measure, Senate Bill 104, is scheduled for a hearing in his committee today.

Critics of the publicly financed stadiums are finding little comfort in saying "I told you so." They had argued throughout the 1990s that state-paid arenas weren't widely popular. Powerful political leaders--primarily Glendening and his predecessor, William Donald Schaefer, both Democrats--championed the financing plans, always contending that no Marylanders would have to pay for the stadiums against their will.

It began in 1987, when Schaefer and other stadium supporters struggled to find politically acceptable means of financing a new home for the Orioles and a new football arena in hopes of attracting a team to replace the departed Colts. They settled on a plan to designate the profits from some games of the well-established state lottery system for the newly created Stadium Authority.

The games, primarily instant scratch-off tickets, were to be clearly marked for the Stadium Authority. They also were to have sports-related themes.

The funding plan worked for a while, but it's insufficient now that the lottery must generate $32 million this year for the Stadium Authority.

"Sports tickets are generally our poorest selling scratch-offs," Lottery Director Buddy Roogow told Finance Committee members last month, according to the Annapolis Capital. "People don't like them."

Over the years, he said, lottery officials have struggled to think of new ideas for sports-related games. "We have cows playing tennis," Roogow said.

Under Bromwell's proposal, which legislators say is likely to be enacted, Roogow's agency will be free to use proceeds from any lottery games to fulfill its obligations to the Stadium Authority. Critics say it amounts to a governmental bait-and-switch, but it's too late to do anything about it, now that both stadiums are built.

"The Stadium Authority said this was going to be funded through a special sports lottery and it would rise or fall based on whether there was enough support from the public," said Sen. Christopher Van Hollen Jr. (D-Montgomery), who opposed the 1996 financing plan for the Ravens stadium. "Well, the public has spoken."

The proposed lottery plan isn't as offensive, Van Hollen said, as the state's decision to let Ravens owner Art Modell sell the stadium's naming rights to PSINet for about $10 million over 20 years.

He and other legislators tried to outlaw such an arrangement in the 1996 General Assembly, but stadium supporters insisted on keeping the option open.
 
I do not support kind of gambling! It remind me of my Dad and his gambling addict in the past. Lucky is my Dad broke his gamlbing habit years ago but I still think gambling is not good idea because it could destory people´s lives.
 
Liebling:-))) said:
I do not support kind of gambling! It remind me of my Dad and his gambling addict in the past. Lucky is my Dad broke his gamlbing habit years ago but I still think gambling is not good idea because it could destory people´s lives.
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I think he is agreeing with your statement about gambling destroying lives.
 
If any of you people ever been inside a casino. Youll find it has entertainment,Food and gambling.People hang in those casinos to gamble try their luck and win money. And percentage wise youll lose. But casinos bring in huge profits. And would help the state governemt a lot. Plus there are jobs in the casino industry.Like waiters,Waitress.Cooks,Bartenders,Gambling workers and security officers.And theyre should be like 1 casino every major city that has over 750,000 people in there. No small towns or a metropolitan county cause theyre kids and churches around there. Casinos should be in downtown business areas. So business people during breaks or when theyre done their jobs can go in casino a press their luck. Like if they build a nice casino in NYC it should be near wall street. In southern California in L.A Area build one near the staples center. Casinos can bring in large revinue to the state and they wouldnt need to keep raising taxes.
 
We already have casinos in St. Louis, Boonville, Kansas City...and I dont know if it does really help or not...

In St. Louis, we have already closed about 13 public schools.

In Kansas City, they have had to cut out 7 HeadStart places.

In Columbia, there have been two nursing home closings.

And ...our soon to be ex Democratic Gov had a big Inauguration party that totalled over $11,000.

There is still a debate raging in Missouri about $200M that was supposed to be for education that they say Holden refused to release.

Yeah, Im a Democrat, but I do recognize that the Democratic Party still has a lot of failures...and SAME for the Republican Party.

So...Gambling?

Dunno.

We still don't seem to have enough money for education, nursing care and what-have-you.
 
DreamDeaf said:
We already have casinos in St. Louis, Boonville, Kansas City...and I dont know if it does really help or not...

In St. Louis, we have already closed about 13 public schools.
Thats because the teachers arent doing their jobs and president bush promised the schools will be held accountable for failing grades.
In Kansas City, they have had to cut out 7 HeadStart places.
Bush gave the money to head start but KC spend it on more welfare so there goes the money for it.
In Columbia, there have been two nursing home closings.
Its because of mismanagement by the nusing home adminstrators.
There is still a debate raging in Missouri about $200M that was supposed to be for education that they say Holden refused to release.

Yeah, Im a Democrat, but I do recognize that the Democratic Party still has a lot of failures...and SAME for the Republican Party.

So...Gambling?

Dunno.

We still don't seem to have enough money for education, nursing care and what-have-you.
 
Thats because the teachers arent doing their jobs and president bush promised the schools will be held accountable for failing grades.

That is not true, Bush promise to support "Leave no child behind act" He screwed that up. School lost money, teacher were on strike. Same thing happened to my son's school the teachers were also on strike in 2002, because of their pay. And they are very good teachers.
 
Cheri said:
That is not true, Bush promise to support "Leave no child behind act" He screwed that up. School lost money, teacher were on strike. Same thing happened to my son's school the teachers were also on strike in 2002, because of their pay. And they are very good teachers.
Agreed. You forget one thing, Bush failed his promise by not giving them the funds and resources for "No Child Left Behind". Bush have no way to hold them accountable for these failing grades. Bush holds himself accountable for not keeping his promise about giving the fund and resources which is needed for so-called "No Child Left Behind" program.

More information about NCLB and fund & resource issue: http://www.nsba.org/site/doc_sbn_issue.asp?TRACKID=&VID=55&CID=682&DID=33124
 
Magatsu said:
Agreed. You forget one thing, Bush failed his promise by not giving them the funds and resources for "No Child Left Behind". Bush have no way to hold them accountable for these failing grades. Bush holds himself accountable for not keeping his promise about giving the fund and resources which is needed for so-called "No Child Left Behind" program.

More information about NCLB and fund & resource issue: http://www.nsba.org/site/doc_sbn_issue.asp?TRACKID=&VID=55&CID=682&DID=33124
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Cheri said:
That is not true, Bush promise to support "Leave no child behind act" He screwed that up. School lost money, teacher were on strike. Same thing happened to my son's school the teachers were also on strike in 2002, because of their pay. And they are very good teachers.
Blame the unions!!!! If they outlawed teachers unions and run it like the FAA airtrafiic controlers the goverment can fire them if they refuse to go back to work. Teachers unions are like the mafia organzion. They bribe the politicians to give em a pay raise or theyre not teaching. Aboilish teachers unions and make them like PATCO and you fire them.
 
ravensteve1961 said:
Blame the unions!!!! If they outlawed teachers unions and run it like the FAA airtrafiic controlers the goverment can fire them if they refuse to go back to work. Teachers unions are like the mafia organzion. They bribe the politicians to give em a pay raise or theyre not teaching. Aboilish teachers unions and make them like PATCO and you fire them.
I find it shocking that teachers say they care most about the children but then they go on strike. What does that show the students? Their school year calendar gets all messed up, and the children learn that they can't depend on their teachers.

The teachers pay dues to unions that send money to support political agendas that many of the teachers don't approve of. But the teachers are stuck in many states because they are required to join, even if they don't agree with the union. It is like extortion.

Teachers should be paid better. If school districts learn to manage their money better they can increase the teachers' pay. If teachers aren't required to pay union dues, they will have more money to keep for themselves.

Oops, sorry. I just realized I am :topic: !

Well, to get back on track. I don't think legalized gambling is the way to finance education. What percentage of the gambling money actually goes to the schools, compared with the percentage that goes to the casino owners? Who buys most of the lottery tickets? Poor people!

Gambling may provide some jobs in the service industry, but it does nothing to improve the GNP, or increase production of goods (except maybe for poker chips).
 
Hey..Dont ya you know rich people like to gamble too? Look at donald trump he loves to play poker. So did jerry lewis, Dean martin, Dallas Mavs owner mark cuban and former CNN reporter bernard shaw. So its not just poor people go in casinos youre millionares,Celebrities and youre businessmen love gambling.
 
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