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DeafSCUBA98

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Since there's many reason why companies are lay-off their employees.. there's many reason how to avoid it.

another thing...
There's many reason how to hire more people, and there's many reason how to avoid over-hiring.

My point is.. i'm wondering what you think of these.. on how to avoid lay-offs.

for example.. there are lay-offs because some RICH companies hire a ROBOT.. and let the ROBOT do all the work and lay-off many people for example FORD, GM, BMW, etc....

FIRE AWAY, hope u understand what i'm talking about :cool:
 
DeafSCUBA98 said:
Since there's many reason why companies are lay-off their employees.. there's many reason how to avoid it.

another thing...
There's many reason how to hire more people, and there's many reason how to avoid over-hiring.

My point is.. i'm wondering what you think of these.. on how to avoid lay-offs.

for example.. there are lay-offs because some RICH companies hire a ROBOT.. and let the ROBOT do all the work and lay-off many people for example FORD, GM, BMW, etc....

FIRE AWAY, hope u understand what i'm talking about :cool:
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Most of the layoffs result from companies transferring their factories overseas. China is getting a bulk of our factories now.

My uncle just lost his job because his company decided to move the factory to China as it is cheaper to employ people there than here.
 
I agree Meg. :hug:

DeafSCUBA98;

The troubled economic times have sent thousands of workers to the unemployment rolls and uncertain futures.. It does happen and can happen. Companies save some money by cutting their staff, by laying them off. I know it sucks but They have to do whatever they can to save their own company. ;)
 
Cheri said:
I agree Meg. :hug:

DeafSCUBA98;

The troubled economic times have sent thousands of workers to the unemployment rolls and uncertain futures.. It does happen and can happen. Companies save some money by cutting their staff, by laying them off. I know it sucks but They have to do whatever they can to save their own company. ;)
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it sucks.. but what my job do is they pay hourly.. so what they do is reducing hours for each employee in order to avoid lay-offs. but for those compaines who play the salary role, should make some changes to avoid lay-off. I know that most computer business are the main compaines that lay-off people such as my dad, they can't afford him even he had worked for over 20 years.. isn't it sad that u love the company and work for 20 years then u got lay-off. now he's at near legally full-benifit retirement age, and most companies don't want him (as my dad thinks cuz of his age).
 
Yes, I know what you mean. Sorry about your dad. :( It's being played out all over America every day. And yes, it is very sad. Our country is in serious financial trouble and it's getting worse by the second.

Does your dad ever thought of creating his own business? Just a suggestion.:)
 
Cheri said:
Yes, I know what you mean. Sorry about your dad. :( It's being played out all over America every day. And yes, it is very sad. Our country is in serious financial trouble and it's getting worse by the second.

Does your dad ever thought of creating his own business? Just a suggestion.:)
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he does have his (somewhat) business at home also a hobby.. he is inventing some robot for the police and army and soon its almost done.. but yet.. that's takes alot of time and money, he really spend lots of money on doing that but he probally will get a reward after that by selling it off the invention to a factory or so.
 
I'm kinda afraid if Bill gates Ever move his company to another country ( or he done that?) cuz its cheaper to run a business there and make a HUGE profit selling in america just like the NIKE shoes they only make 1 pair of shoes only cost them $1 to make each pair of shoes and sell them for $150.. that's greedy silly thingy.

anyway if bill gates ever decide to do that then all the employees will lose their job.. eh
 
That's to be expected. Physical work is being replaced by computer work. What's needed is people to keep those computers running. That's me... ;)
 
From my own experinces when we ran small business, it was expensive to run especially if we hire someone to do work for us. We have to follow the law, must have workman comp insurance,health insurance, licenses and bonds, property insurance for us. Too many rules to run under our govt. If we break the law, we pay big fine $$$$$. Everything is getting so expenesive here these day. Then we get people to sue us if they are not happy with our work. I don't blame for companies to move out of USA and don't have to deal with like this.

My husband work for this comapny,( he is on disablity leave, probably will lose this job if he never get his shoulder surgery) it is japanese own business and they bought some soil from Thailand to shipping out here cuz it is cheaper there. We have plenty of soils here to make cement but it looks alike we have to work with other countries under trade agreements. Another politicals BS.
 
unions plays big role in this

Cheri said:
I agree Meg. :hug:

DeafSCUBA98;

The troubled economic times have sent thousands of workers to the unemployment rolls and uncertain futures.. It does happen and can happen. Companies save some money by cutting their staff, by laying them off. I know it sucks but They have to do whatever they can to save their own company. ;)
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The unions donate heavily to democratis candidates, then therefore co cant afford becuz this has gon tooo far now they layyoff to save the co, like my brother e x wife was telling me that the america airlines almost file bankrupty becuz thew pilot and flight atttendand went on strike twice in six months peroid then we lost two aircraft carrriers becuz the fuel and maintence wa tooo high therefore went bankrupt. the unions fault, thats when all lawsiuts comes in. guess what you know what .
 
harleymn said:
The unions donate heavily to democratis candidates, then therefore co cant afford becuz this has gon tooo far now they layyoff to save the co, like my brother e x wife was telling me that the america airlines almost file bankrupty becuz thew pilot and flight atttendand went on strike twice in six months peroid then we lost two aircraft carrriers becuz the fuel and maintence wa tooo high therefore went bankrupt. the unions fault, thats when all lawsiuts comes in. guess what you know what .
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isn't it funny that u pay for union fees.. and u didn't get any rights.. interesting to me.......

i notice that when people went on strike.. the higher chance u'll get lay-off.
 
Some corporate, business moguls won't bat an eyelid when it comes to downsizing their companies out of greed or wanton in order to pile more money into their pockets/banks accounts--

It is indeed quite a national crisis or situation where more and more companies are finding suitable areas outside the USA to their advantages...states, cities are beginning to see this alarming trend taking place and certain cities have pulled back the taxes or offer special annuities for companies in order for them to maintain and run their businesses in their cities without moving away.
 
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I believe, to solve this job issue by altering the trade policy to block the outsource jobs. It will solve maybe 50 - 70% of job issue but again, that's my opinion.

Whoever said that union is at fault is the biggest joke. Unions help employes much more than you think. If not for union, mistreatment at jobs will be very, very higher while worker's rights will be very, very low. Do you know war costs taxpayers 5 times or more than social security and union together? You are being silly.
 
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Magatsu said:
I believe, to solve this job issue by altering the trade policy to block the outsource jobs. It will solve maybe 50 - 70% of job issue but again, that's my opinion.

Whoever said that union is at fault is the biggest joke. Unions help employes much more than you think. If not for union, mistreatment at jobs will be very, very higher while worker's rights will be very, very low. Do you know war costs taxpayers 5 times or more than social security and union together? You are being silly.
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:werd: I have seen them whine about union at fault about everything. I thought the same as you that union helps employees too.
 
yeah ok

well if you think iam being silly the how do you explain if the union rose the wages and the co cant pay so they start to down size, Then What do you propose to solve the problems like the aircraft business we have lost good co. you mgastu or cheri.? Tell what you have any prooft that the union is not at fault?
 
harleymn,


Union wages grows faster than nonunion wages, with growth in economy. If the company isn't benefits money then it loses money and cannot pay people, that's why they do laid off. If the company growth in economy then there a chance of good wages increase. Don't blame the union They have nothing to do with it, They are helping employees so that way they dont get mistreated by their employer or their company.
 
cheri

If you think that is how union operate , well show me facts or your opinion.
 
Yes but dont

mean anythin to me,that is not a fact on who the writer is or one person you know pretty well what iam talking about dont grab a headliner and put it in there doesnt proof anything :thumb:
 
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