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Levonian said:
Go ahead and flame me all you want, but if the guy was cooking meth, then he got exactly what he deserved. As a matter of fact, he got off easy.
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You're right he got what he deserved but he's human.. he's a drug addict and needs help... if you've been around drug addicts and alcoholics, you'll understand better.
 
Cheri said:
Oh Ok, RebelGirl Thanks for the explanation. :thumb:


I apologies Taylor. :thumb:
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Nooo, it was my fault, I didn't explain enough. I"m sorry.. you don't need to apologize! :thumb:
 
Cheri said:
I know a person that was on drugs because her daughter passed away with cancer, She choose the wrong path to live her life, because she was so emotional, and drugs are the only thing that makes her forget what she is feeling. It's very sad. :(
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Exactly.. that's why that man is doing drugs not because he had a kid that died but he had a rough life. It is very sad but we can't change them.. they have to change for themselves...
 
^Angel^ said:
Doctors don't always make the right judgement calls once releasing a patient from the hospital because it happened to me before, but I don't believe the police should be in blamed in this, since they already got an order from the doctor, and the doctor is the one who made that decision alone, if something did happened, then the family can always sue the doctor and for the polices, they were only doing their job...


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Yeah it was the dr who decided to release him so its on the dr. Hopefully he's recovery instead of getting worse. I believe that if the infirmary couldn't treat him then they'll send him back to the hospital. I just think the family is just very upset. They knew something like this was gonna happen to him. I for one was expecting to hear that he died from drugs. But it was the other way. So I guess we need to pray that he does recover.
 
Luckysmile23 said:
Dang I still think dr released the guy too soon.. Should have been put on watch for at least 24 hours due to concussion?

I felt bad for the kids. :( If he really loved his kids- he would have got a job and provide for them instead expose them to stealing and etc now they will have emotional problems. I would know as my two nephews and my niece were exposed to this stealing by their mother for foods to feed them and drugs for herself of course. Later my sis in law got arrested and sent to prison for how long, I can't remember (long time ago) Today- look at them. my nephews broke in house for stealing for drugs and get in numerous troubles, I have lost count! sighs.. My niece got caught for stealing shoes, clothes, jewelry from Jcepenney's two years ago and is put on probation. AT the time she was 16! She didn't graduated from high school. But recently got GED now she will be off the probation. but Will she stop stealing and etc? I wonder? Only time will tell..

Anyway back to the topic- Maybe he will learn to get off meth for good if he serve time in prison and will wake up from the mistakes he made over the past years and see what happened to his kids? I will pray for him and his family! sighs..
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Great to see you back in AD!!!! right.. like I said in other post that he's human and has made alot of mistakes and now he's caught. I wish the best for him at whatever he does with his life in prison or out in the real world.
 
RebelGirl said:
Yeah it was the dr who decided to release him so its on the dr. Hopefully he's recovery instead of getting worse. I believe that if the infirmary couldn't treat him then they'll send him back to the hospital. I just think the family is just very upset. They knew something like this was gonna happen to him. I for one was expecting to hear that he died from drugs. But it was the other way. So I guess we need to pray that he does recover.
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I understand hon, I'll be sure to keep him in my prayers ..
 
RebelGirl said:
You're right he got what he deserved but he's human.. he's a drug addict and needs help... if you've been around drug addicts and alcoholics, you'll understand better.
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drug addicts does need help- but how? it is hard, really. I would know as I have been around my family.. my brother Fred, my sister Jo, and my nephews Jeremy n Ryan all still use drugs except my bro Fred- he is in federal prison as of right now. They can't get OFF it. They all have been in Rehabs numerous times. the researchers are in process of making a medicine to stop the addictive to meth. I wonder if it will success? wiat n see..

You are right- we can't change them. They have to change themselves one way or another. indeed they are humans.. we do make mistakes whether we like it or not..

thanks, angela.. its good to be back in AD.. :)
 
Luckysmile23 said:
drug addicts does need help- but how? it is hard, really. I would know as I have been around my family.. my brother Fred, my sister Jo, and my nephews Jeremy n Ryan all still use drugs except my bro Fred- he is in federal prison as of right now. They can't get OFF it. They all have been in Rehabs numerous times. the researchers are in process of making a medicine to stop the addictive to meth. I wonder if it will success? wiat n see..

You are right- we can't change them. They have to change themselves one way or another. indeed they are humans.. we do make mistakes whether we like it or not..

thanks, angela.. its good to be back in AD.. :)
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Yeah sometimes people do succeed and stay drug free. some don't. My sis is an alcoholic and has been in the rehab 4 times, half-way house once.. but now she has been sober for 3 years. it takes a wake up call to hit them hard enough for them to stop. so maybe the guy will have a wake up call and stop doing those things.
 
Ah I see now that the doctor did release him. Well, since he was released he has to be in the police custody anyhow.
 
ButterflyGirl said:
Ah I see now that the doctor did release him. Well, since he was released he has to be in the police custody anyhow.
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yep that's right. i'm sorry i didn't explain clear. my bad! by the way.. beautiful sig!!!
 
The sad thing is that a person usually have to want to quit drugs in order to succeed in recovery - oftentimes this won't stop them from using again, even when they're severly beaten to within a whisker of dying...they recover, and then go right back to using again.

I just happened to be one of the lucky ones- knew when I'd had enough, and knew it was time to quit.

Im still going thru several phases of recovery - even when you've been sober for almost 17 years, you still find yourself in situations where you know you've not completely done with your 12 steps...*sigh*...believe me, it does happen.

I do hope that this will be the wake-up call for this person - and not just a "vacation" from drug use.
 
DreamDeaf said:
The sad thing is that a person usually have to want to quit drugs in order to succeed in recovery - oftentimes this won't stop them from using again, even when they're severly beaten to within a whisker of dying...they recover, and then go right back to using again.

I just happened to be one of the lucky ones- knew when I'd had enough, and knew it was time to quit.

Im still going thru several phases of recovery - even when you've been sober for almost 17 years, you still find yourself in situations where you know you've not completely done with your 12 steps...*sigh*...believe me, it does happen.

I do hope that this will be the wake-up call for this person - and not just a "vacation" from drug use.
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:werd:

Although, this 'wake-up' call could very well be spread out in 'years' and a hard way to go about it...yet, given the choices we each have, he didn't choose a good one at that and will now suffer for his own consequences of his actions and choice. There are 'other' items or interesting perspectives to mention here, but although, that's another entirely different topic and issue and wouldn't want to go off-topic here. ;)
 
my god, I read whole messages in this thread, I feel bad for him. Sure his life was so screw up... Wondering if he is still alive or dead? I pray for his kids alright by now..

Drugs accdit is not easy to away for his life and another people who is on drugs.
 
RebelGirl said:
... The cops come and waited for 8 hours for him to get all cleaned up. The dr said that he has a concusion and can barely walk, his face was soo swollen and he couldn't see either. The cops said that's too bad, he's going to jail. His family went into a rage saying he needed to be admitted to the hospital. The cops said there is an infirmary at the jail house. So the cops took him to jail without bond.
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Well, the cops did wait for 8 hours while the doctors fixed him up.

It says that the jail had an infirmary; that's not the same as a holding cell.

The family said he needed to be admitted into the hospital. It doesn't say the doctor wanted to admit him. It is up to the doctor to make medical decisions.


What do you think of all this? Is it normal to treat a patient like that?
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He's not a "patient"--he's a charged criminal. Cops don't treat patients.


Did the cops make the wrong move by taking him to jail when he's in a bad shape? Or did the cops have a right to drag him like that to jail?
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I didn't read anything that said the cops took him out of the hospital against the doctor's recommendation. I don't think they "dragged" him to jail.


There's also someone in jail that wants him dead too.
The reason he got beatened was because he owed that man money.
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I missed that information in the story. Was there another link?
 
Levonian said:
Go ahead and flame me all you want, but if the guy was cooking meth, then he got exactly what he deserved. As a matter of fact, he got off easy.
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True. Distributing the drugs to other druggies is bad enough. But worse is how dangerous meth labs are to innocent neighbors. The chemicals that are involved are toxic hazmats. Meth makers don't care the least bit about other people.
 
If you ask me, meth users are equally culpable, since they keep the manufacturers in operation. There’s wouldn't be any supply if there weren't any demand.
 
Reba said:
True. Distributing the drugs to other druggies is bad enough. But worse is how dangerous meth labs are to innocent neighbors. The chemicals that are involved are toxic hazmats.
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Expertly those new homeowners too, I've seen that some homeowners purchased a house that used to be a meth lab after a drug busted, the house went on a sale market and a family of three purchased the house and end up getting different type of illness and later found out their house use to be a meth lab. No matter how they remolded the house, the toxic are build inside the walls of the house and it stays there forever, The houses have to be rebuild from ground to up.
 
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