If you found $50,000 in a dufflebag.....

[Cheri]

The bottom line it is the owner's responsible to takecare of their money once it is lost and it is lost forever. If I had the bag and it is obviously the owner isn't very responsible with the bag therefore he must really don't care about that money. If you really care about that money and you will never lose it. BTW who would dare to bring $50k cash in the bag!? It's a common sense thing.

Talking about responsible? What if someone robbed a bank, and ran on foot, and saw the police cruise looking for him, He decide to hide the money btw the bushes, So you saying he don't care? He is only saving his buns to avoid going to prison. Or ever thought about, random money, When someone is kidnapped there a random if you want a girl to stay alive you have to pay 50,000.00 so someone drop the random money off and what if the guy didn't show up because he think he being setup and the money is still there, by the time someone goes past that area and recovered the money, You think he or she should keep it? No way, that money belong to someone who trying to save this young girl's life. Talk about common sense, think about all those
"what if."

Second theory if it was dirty money and it must have some of weapons/drugs/cell-phone/papers/clothes inside the bag and I gotta use my judgement handle it. First thing in my mind is throw in the fire and make big bon fire as I can. The weapons and I will damage it and make sure it is useless like welding inside the barrels.

No, not really they would have those items in the bag, When someone robbed a bank, the bank teller gives the bag to the robber, there no such items are inside the bag expect the money.

Third Theory if the owner really that dumb to lose the $50k without any tags on the bag. I am very sure he will contact the news media to announce his lost.

Who would be that dumb to put their name and address on a bag that he or she going to rob a store or bank? The bank teller can memorized that name and address for the police to track down. Bank robbers aren't that dumb to leave a tag there.

If the items has no tags on it and then it isn't call stealing because someone lost it and you found it therefore it is yours.

Yes, It is called stealing, It never belong to you, Someone lost it, It could be stolen, It could be robbed by someone, and therefore it still isn't your right to take anyone's else bag that doesn't belong to you. Just like when you find a purse in the bushes you think you have the right to keep that purse? That purse might be stolen. Most people return lost purses to the police department.

For example if the pets is lost with no tag and you found it and you want to keep it because it had no tag on it. It is better than throw it into the pet shelter and then they will put them in sleep. I know that example is involving the emotional but I am giving the logic thing.

They do not always put pets to sleep, Only if no one came to adopt them I have watched animal cops all the time, some of those dogs been spray without name-tags, some might get homes and some might not get homes. That why there so many owners who don't take care of their pets, They were abandoned cruelly by the owners. So blame the pet owners. That a different situation, When you find a spray cat outside without a tag, You decide to keep the cat, that isn't stealing, That is giving the cat a second chance at life, Don't compare money and life together.

 

[Cheri]

You are saying WWJD. Jesus will never give to the police department and he will give it back to the owner at that time because he already know the owner. I am not Jesus and I have limited knowledge therefore I have to use my judgements.

If Jesus knew the money was stolen, Yes, Jesus would do the right thing and give it to the police department. He would not return to the owner who stole the money.

Therefore, You are not doing the right thing, You saying if someone lost a bag without a tag and the owner is unknown then you decide to keep the bag? That's wrong. That made it sound like you are greedy for money, however it was never yours the first place, second of all, that money could be lost by someone, It could be stolen by someone, It could be blood money, It could be devils money. That money belongs to someone out there. Nobody would know who it belongs to, and without knowing if that money been stolen. Still has no right to keep that money, It should gone to the police department, and the police will know that you're a good person that return a lost bag with 50,000.00 in it.

 

[Angel]

Well I wouldn't touch it if somebody around but if nobody around, I would check it out and see what it is. If it's bomb, oh shit.

...that was funni!!

 

[Crazymanw00t]

Talking about responsible? What if someone robbed a bank, and ran on foot, and saw the police cruise looking for him, He decide to hide the money btw the bushes, So you saying he don't care? He is only saving his buns to avoid going to prison.

Did you know that the police has the radio system with them? They would call for the back-ups and the back-ups will cover the evidence. It is easy thing for the cops to do that.

Or ever thought about, random money, When someone is kidnapped there a random if you want a girl to stay alive you have to pay 50,000.00 so someone drop the random money off and what if the guy didn't show up because he think he being setup and the money is still there, by the time someone goes past that area and recovered the money, You think he or she should keep it? No way, that money belong to someone who trying to save this young girl's life. Talk about common sense, think about all those
"what if."

Ok that is a new situation. If I knew it was a random money and I won't touch it and I will 100% call the police department to handle those cases.

Ok If I didn't know it was random money and I would never worries about it because I don't know. Isn't it simple, right?

Now if I were the randomers and I wouldn't never place the money with extremely-low popluation traffic. I would rather to go to no popluation traffic at all to make the deals over that place. It is safer and smarter. If the randomers do the dumb thing and the cops would be already there anyway because they are dumb.

Bank robbing situations

You are talking about robbing the bank in Mexico right? Then all your comments may make sense.

In America at today no one can rob the bank and they escapes freely. If they throw the money in the bag at somewhere and I am 100% sure that the police officer will set the area closed for the evidence check-list and then they will take it. The bank robbing situation is a outrange comments from you, really. The police officer always took care of everything if the bank is robbed.

Why would someone stay near the bank that is being robbed with the men with guns? Why would someone sneak and steal the robber's money bag? It is extremely risky thing and it is still considered such as robber mission anyway.

They do not always put pets to sleep, Only if no one came to adopt them I have watched animal cops all the time, some of those dogs been spray without name-tags, some might get homes and some might not get homes. That why there so many owners who don't take care of their pets, They were abandoned cruelly by the owners. So blame the pet owners. That a different situation, When you find a spray cat outside without a tag, You decide to keep the cat, that isn't stealing, That is giving the cat a second chance at life, Don't compare money and life together.

Ok I am following your logic and you are saying that you can keep the cat and the cat isn't your right? Now you are saying it isn't stealing. Ok let me replace the cat with the money in the bag with no tag. It is still same thing right?

Example ->
They do not always put money bag to fire, Only if no one came to claim them I have watched cops all the time, some of those money bag been spray without name-tags, some might get used and some might not used. That why there so many owners who don't take care of their money bag, They were abandoned cruelly by the owners. So blame the owners. That a different situation, When you find a spray money bag outside without a tag, You decide to keep the money bag, that isn't stealing, That is giving the money bag a second chance to be used up, Don't compare money with tag and money without tag together.
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Ok here how I did? I copied same paragraph from your and I replaced the noun words to the different noun words. Simply by replacing the cat with money bag and some adjustments to make paragraph sense at the same logic order. The logic thing is still same as your previous comments with this new comments. I also knew that you would keep the cat because you are woman, with no offense. That is why I am bringing this up to talk about it. In the laywer battle and I would won this battle because it is totally black and white without any emotionals.

Anyway, you and I have very different view on that situation. You are a very soft person and I am a very hard person to deal with. I teach people lesson with their own mistake actions.

In real world, and once you make mistake and there is no going back to make-up the mistake. You gotta move on and learn your own mistakes.

 

[Crazymanw00t]

If Jesus knew the money was stolen, Yes, Jesus would do the right thing and give it to the police department. He would not return to the owner who stole the money.

Shall I review with the Jesus Christ's knowledge's limit with you? I hope not.
Ok let me explain to you. Jesus Christ know everything and I mean more than 100% everything with his creators. Therefore he knows who is the owner of the bag right? Why would he have to give it to the police department that they are not even a owner at all? Jesus Christ will simply walk to the owner person and hands him with his lost money in 1 by 1 person. Does it makes sense right?

Therefore, You are not doing the right thing, You saying if someone lost a bag without a tag and the owner is unknown then you decide to keep the bag? That's wrong. That made it sound like you are greedy for money, however it was never yours the first place, second of all, that money could be lost by someone, It could be stolen by someone, It could be blood money, It could be devils money. That money belongs to someone out there. Nobody would know who it belongs to, and without knowing if that money been stolen. Still has no right to keep that money, It should gone to the police department, and the police will know that you're a good person that return a lost bag with 50,000.00 in it.

Ok right now I am playing what if-s. What if the police departments decide to hands out the money bags to every police officers for their good working with the police department? They don't care about the owner of the bag because they can't find the trace of the owners. You just throw away the chance to use up all the money.

Again I already gave you the three theories with the money's source. I will have to use my common sense according handling with my three theories.

Remember this I am not greedy person. You just commited the sin and you judged me!!

That made it sound like you are greedy for money

How does that feels right now? That is how I am feeling from you keep calling me such as a judger.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Well I wouldn't touch it if somebody around but if nobody around, I would check it out and see what it is. If it's bomb, oh shit.

Too late to say "Oh shit" if it's really bomb...

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Well, I would feel guilty if I keep $50,000 instead of give it back to the owner.

I rather rid of my guilty feeling and be proud myself to be honest.

I read a newspaper few weeks ago about a lady who found EUR 200,000 in the plastic bag from wash bin where she bought from flea market. She would love to pay her heavy debt off with those money but she CAN'T because of "guilty feeling" so she wait for next flea market then go to the same owner where she bought wash bin. The owner was shock and didn't know about those money. The money is belong to the owner's dead mother. The owner have to empty her mother's furniture to sell at flea market. The owner thank a lady for her honest and reward her 30% of 200,000 EUR which it mean that a lady receive EUR 60,000. She is happy with EUR 60,000 and pay all the debts off and get something to fill her wish. The owner report the newspaper to praise a lady for her honest. I was like :jaw: that the owner is good heart and praise her 30% of EUR 200,000 .

Give to police department? I would not do that because I know some of cops are not honest. Remember that they are only human who need money. I rather give large amount to Lost Property Office than Police Department if I didn't know the money belongs to. Lost Property Office inform the owner who found her/his money and also inform me, too which owner got money from Lost Property Office. Lost Property Officer advise the owner to give Finder the reward.

 

[Cheri]

I am not going to sit here and argue with you Crazymanw00t, I only told you "What if" which it does exit in America today and always been.

Remember this I am not greedy person. You just commited the sin and you judged me!! How does that feels right now? That is how I am feeling from you keep calling me such as a judger.

That is not judging, I said "That made it sound like you are greedy for money" What do you call it then, when someone pick up a bag that doesn't even own that bag, doesn't even own that money, You pick it up, and decide to keep it, without knowing that it belongs to someone else. That my point of sounding greedy. You called it "treasure" and I call it "stealing"

 

[BabyAngel]

I would report it to the police. I refuse to keep the money because that's STEAL.

 

[IcedTeaRulz]

If Jesus knew the money was stolen, Yes, Jesus would do the right thing and give it to the police department. He would not return to the owner who stole the money.

Therefore, You are not doing the right thing, You saying if someone lost a bag without a tag and the owner is unknown then you decide to keep the bag? That's wrong. That made it sound like you are greedy for money, however it was never yours the first place, second of all, that money could be lost by someone, It could be stolen by someone, It could be blood money, It could be devils money. That money belongs to someone out there. Nobody would know who it belongs to, and without knowing if that money been stolen. Still has no right to keep that money, It should gone to the police department, and the police will know that you're a good person that return a lost bag with 50,000.00 in it.

I agree 100 %.

 

[Reba]

... Jesus Christ know everything and I mean more than 100% everything with his creators. Therefore he knows who is the owner of the bag right? Why would he have to give it to the police department that they are not even a owner at all?

Jesus might give it to the police because He wants to show you the right example to follow!

 

[RedWolf]

if you found it then bring it to police station if no one claimed the money then you already own the money

 

[Reba]

...Give to police department? I would not do that because I know some of cops are not honest. Remember that they are only human who need money.

I am sorry that you cannot trust your police. I think most of our police are honest, and that they follow the required procedures.

I rather give large amount to Lost Property Office than Police Department if I didn't know the money belongs to.

I don't think we have a "Lost Property Office." Some places have a lost-and-found department but there is no government or community lost-and-found office. Usually, if someone here loses a large amount of money, they report it to the police.

 

[Peachy Lady]

Jesus might give it to the police because He wants to show you the right example to follow!

Amen! I totally agree with you!!!

 

[Crazymanw00t]

Jesus might give it to the police because He wants to show you the right example to follow!

Ok you know that Jesus Christ is a police of himself and He is boss of everything on the Earth right? Why would Jesus Christ need a police so someone would follows the sinner people that Jesus really want everyone of you to follow himself only not other than Jesus Christ.

Other point do you have the Bible to support with your quote? I dobut it.

 

[Reba]

Ok you know that Jesus Christ is a police of himself and He is boss of everything on the Earth right? Why would Jesus Christ need a police so someone would follows the sinner people that Jesus really want everyone of you to follow himself only not other than Jesus Christ.

You are totally missing the point. Jesus doesn't need the police to help Him. He can use the found money and police as a lesson to teach other people the right way to behave. Jesus wants us to follow His example.

Other point do you have the Bible to support with your quote? I dobut it.

Which "quote" are you referring to? I didn't quote anything in my last response except your posting.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

I am sorry that you cannot trust your police. I think most of our police are honest, and that they follow the required procedures.

I´m not talking about MY or YOUR police but in general way.

Do you really think ALL of cops are honest and prefect as Angel? Nope! I heard those scandal stories alot in America, other countries and of course Europe, too

I don't think we have a "Lost Property Office." Some places have a lost-and-found department but there is no government or community lost-and-found office. Usually, if someone here loses a large amount of money, they report it to the police.

Oh I see. We have Lost Property Office here in Germany. They are responsible to handle any lost property, not Police.

 

[Reba]

Oh I see. We have Lost Property Office here in Germany. They are responsible to handle any lost property, not Police.

Do you trust them more than police? Are they perfect as angels?

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Do you trust them more than police? Are they perfect as angels?

Yes, I do

Because it´s their duty to inform us that the owner come to pick their things up from there where we return to. They also informed the owner, too where they can find us. There´re papers, we have to sign in Lost Property Officer. They inform me to pick the things within 30 days later if nobody comes to pick them up.

I lost my purse with debit card once. I informed bank straight way to lock my debit card and then go to Lost Property Officer right way to give them description of my purse and how much money is in, etc..... On next day they informed me that they have my purse. I went to pick my purse and check everything are okay and ask them for the finder´s address because I want to reward them. They give me a paper to sign that I receive my purse safety because the finder want to know. I saw the finder´s address and went to their house and give her real good looking flowers. She is delighted and invited us in for a drink for chat...

Alot of Germans informed Lost Property Officer straight way to give their description when they lost something.

Police? I don´t know... Perhap I´m too parniod since I heard alot of awful scandal over cops condition... It´s my decision either I can give to...

 

[Crazymanw00t]

You are totally missing the point. Jesus doesn't need the police to help Him. He can use the found money and police as a lesson to teach other people the right way to behave. Jesus wants us to follow His example.

Which "quote" are you referring to? I didn't quote anything in my last response except your posting.

Ok now I know where you are coming from. I am here to challenge you with the Bible with your comments. Do the Bible support your point? I know one verse and it says respect the government laws. It didn't say anything about reporting, give lost items to police office, etc.

So I am saying that you are making it up for yourself because you feel that everyone should report to the police office for this situation. You are not feeling from Jesus Christ because there is no Bible verses supporting your point. It is all about feeling, gut, and maybe quilty. Maybe you were taught by doing like that.