How old is Earth? Evolution?

Reba said:
That doesn't total millions or billions of years. That totals a few thousand years. Just a math thing. :)

Yes, you could be right. I work out.. .It could be thousands, not million.

I try to work out...

Yes, earth could be around 5,000 to 7,000 years old.
 
Liebling:-))) said:
Jeremiah 10:12
Colossians 1:15-17
Genesis 1:1-10

The bible is made in the USA. :)

Jeremiah 10:12 refers to "LORD God", not an angel. Read verses 10-13.

Col. 1:15-17 refers to "his dear Son: in whom we have redemption" which is Christ Jesus, not an angel. Read verses 12-18.

Genesis 1:1-10 refers to God (Elohim), the Trinity, not an angel.

Jesus Christ is also called "the Word", and is described as creating the world in John 1:1-15.
 
No one knew exactly how old earth was. I remember someone told me earth was alike 7 thousands years old thru by this one religion man (can't remember who wrote this one). I was puzzled by it. How do we ended up with dinasours and caveman with little different shape than us. I do not believe we were first group of people come here.
 
If man was created only 6,000 years ago, what about the long ages assigned
to dinosaurs by science? WHEN exactly were dinosaurs created?



Q. I was just reading an article asking about the dinosaurs. It was written that they were just large reptiles that lived pre-flood and maybe even after the flood. But if that's the case, then we are only dealing with a few thousand or tens of thousands of years ago. What then about the fossils they've found dating back hundreds of thousands or even millions of years ago? Now if Adam was created let's say 6000 -10,000 BC, where did these dinosaur fossils dating back millions of years come from? Wasn't Adam created in the first week of creation?

A. We know that dinosaurs existed because there is much evidence in the fossil record. One frequent question that people have is where exactly chronologically do the dinosaurs fit in. If man has existed for only a short time period (usually about 6,000--10,000 years ago) then how do we explain the long ages that science has assigned to the dinosaurs. When exactly were they created?

This question is a result of misconceptions concerning the chronology as outlined in the scriptures. A common misconception is that everything that was created was created when man was created. In other words if man was created only a few thousand years ago then everything is only a few thousand years old including the dinosaurs. The Bible reveals that there was a creation prior to Adam and Eve. Even though Adam and Eve were created in 6 literal days of 24 hours (the popular creation week), they were not the first living organisms to be created. This is often overlooked because of an improper understanding of the first two verse in Genesis.

In reality, although man is only a few thousand years old the earth is older. How much older? We are not sure because the Bible is silent on the subject. According to the Bible the creation week in the first chapter of Genesis is simply a recreation account. A proper translation of Genesis 1:1-2 should read as follows:

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. The earth had become without form and void (empty chaotic and confused) and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.

The Hebrew word, hayah, translated was in the second verse can easily be translated became, or had become. An example of this occurs a few verses later in Genesis 2:7:

"And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became (hayah) a living being. "

This scripture reveals that the earth was created with various forms of life, including the dinosaurs, and then it became a cosmic wasteland. In the opening verses of Genesis the earth is covered in a deep mantle of water. All life that had been originally created became extinct, including the dinosaurs. The earth was as the scripture says "without form and void." Then God recreated and refashioned the earth to be able to support human life.

Although the Bible is silent on how much time elapsed between Genesis 1 and 2 the earth does not necessarily have to be extremely old. The only reason that long ages are necessary is to accommodate the evolutionary theory or theistic evolution. Since these are not viable options, because God created everything, then long eons of time are not needed. The time period between these two verse is unspecified for two reasons. First the Bible gives no indication, secondly the dating systems of men are erroneous. These dating systems are based on constants and assumptions that were jumbled by the earth's catastrophic past. These catastrophes included the destruction described in Genesis 1:1-2 and the flood of Noah described in Genesis 6.

In summary the dinosaurs were created by God in a time period that predates Adam. The earth became a chaotic confused waste, probably as a result of the rebellion of Satan ( Revelation 12:7). The dinosaurs went extinct before the creation week. God then recreated, refashioned, and revitalized, the earth to support human life. He then created Adam and Eve.

http://www.biblestudy.org/question/dinoexst.html
 
"The dinosaurs went extinct before the creation week. God then recreated, refashioned, and revitalized, the earth to support human life. He then created Adam and Eve. "

Exactly, where does Scripture say this?
Where does Scripture use the word dinosaur?

Genesis 1:1 says "In the beginning, when God created the heavens and the earth" - so nothing existed before this "creation week"; therefore, it would be impossible to refashion or revitalize the Earth if it didn't even exist at this point.

The creation story in the Bible is a Faith story - not a science tract.
 
Liebling:-))) said:
.... The dinosaurs went extinct before the creation week.
How could the dinosaurs become extinct before they were created? Also, death did not touch the world until after Adam and Eve sinned.

God then recreated, refashioned, and revitalized, the earth to support human life. He then created Adam and Eve.
Genesis does not say "recreated".
 
Daft said:
"The dinosaurs went extinct before the creation week. God then recreated, refashioned, and revitalized, the earth to support human life. He then created Adam and Eve. "

Exactly, where does Scripture say this?
Where does Scripture use the word dinosaur?

Revelation 12:7
Jeremiah 51:34

Yes, No word of "dinosaur" mentioned in the bible but "dragon", "Reptiles" and
"Tannin".

Check this.
http://www.genesispark.com/genpark/bible/bible.htm


Genesis 1:1 says "In the beginning, when God created the heavens and the earth" - so nothing existed before this "creation week"; therefore, it would be impossible to refashion or revitalize the Earth if it didn't even exist at this point.

I was taught to beleive that dinosaurs was existed thousand years before Adam's creation. I really don't know the reason why the dinosaurs are unearth to death then thousand years later God create Adam like himself. :dunno:
I will find out more.



The creation story in the Bible is a Faith story - not a science tract.

Yes, I know that the Bible never say lie but I do not against when the scentists are interesting to study more and more about Bible histories. Sometimes I'm agree with them or not.
One point, I can't image that dinosaurs was existed AFTER Adam's creation or on the same time as Adam's creation.
 
Reba said:
How could the dinosaurs become extinct before they were created? Also, death did not touch the world until after Adam and Eve sinned.


Genesis does not say "recreated".


See my response post to Draft.

I thought for long time that dinosaurs was existed many years before Adam's creation until I learn from those threads here. :dunno:



Question:


I'm wondering what's the reason the god create dinosaurs for?

Yes, I know the bible did not say dinosaurs but dragon, Reptiles and Tannin. That's what Scentist claimed those words mean is dinosaurs after found the proof of fossils remains between 1800 and 1900.

I'm also wondering why they found only fossils remains, not humans? It look like that dinosaurs are not involved with humans in that time....

Yes, I know that bible says about Adam & Eve who are first human in the earth. I still can't image that dinosaurs are around after Adam creation.


I suspect that there're difference between animal and human. I guess that God created dinosaurs as animal then many thousand years later then create again as human. recreation mean is God create something TWICE.
 
The following answers are just my opinion and theories. :)

Liebling:-))) said:
I'm wondering what's the reason the god create dinosaurs for?
God already knew that a few thousand years later man would need petroleum, so He provided the dead dinosaurs for that.

Yes, I know the bible did not say dinosaurs but dragon, Reptiles and Tannin. That's what Scentist claimed those words mean is dinosaurs after found the proof of fossils remains between 1800 and 1900.
Yes, the word "dinosaur" for naming that group of animals is fairly recent. In the past, they used different names.

I'm also wondering why they found only fossils remains, not humans? It look like that dinosaurs are not involved with humans in that time....
At that time (thousands of years ago), the world population of humans was very small. They lived only in small areas. Much, much of the world was empty wilderness. The wilderness areas were perfect for large dinosaurs to spread out, and find lots of space and food. Therefor, dinosaurs and people lived at the same time but they didn't all live in the same places.


The following answer is Bible truth, not my just my opinion or theory:

... recreation mean is God create something TWICE.
Yes, that is what the word means. But that is not what God did. God created the world and everything on it, under it, in it, and above it, during one 6-day event.
 
Oh boy! Some of you have no idea that the Bible has a lot of science in it!!!!!

what about the Law of Causation?
Law of Thermadynamics?
The Natural Law?

Will cover that soon... Im just exploring here... first day in forum...
 
halford said:
Oh boy! Some of you have no idea that the Bible has a lot of science in it!!!!!

what about the Law of Causation?
Law of Thermadynamics?
The Natural Law?

Will cover that soon... Im just exploring here... first day in forum...


Care to provide the scriptures where you find them that stated it ? I would like to read them in my KJV Bible. :)
 
Bible also teaches the world is flat.
Also teaches the Earth is the center of the universe.

It teaches faith, not science/
 
Originally Posted by Daft
"The dinosaurs went extinct before the creation week.
No.
Exactly, where does Scripture say this?
Where does Scripture use the word dinosaur?
They were there when God created before He rested.
 
"They were there when God created before He rested."

Wrong. They were extinct by the 7th day.
 
Daft said:
"They were there when God created before He rested."

Wrong. They were extinct by the 7th day.
You are mistaken. Read Job 40:15 - It is one of dinosaurs.
 
LOL Hippos are not dinosaurs! Behemoth was a hippo!

Here is a direct quote from www.dictionary.com

"(Job 40:15-24). Some have supposed this to be an Egyptian word meaning a
"water-ox." The Revised Version has here in the margin "hippopotamus," which is probably the correct rendering of the word. The word occurs frequently in Scripture, but, except here, always as a common name, and translated "beast" or "cattle."
 
Daft said:
LOL Hippos are not dinosaurs! Behemoth was a hippo!

Here is a direct quote from www.dictionary.com

"(Job 40:15-24). Some have supposed this to be an Egyptian word meaning a
"water-ox." The Revised Version has here in the margin "hippopotamus," which is probably the correct rendering of the word. The word occurs frequently in Scripture, but, except here, always as a common name, and translated "beast" or "cattle."
Wrong! Modern versions including Revised Version are wrong! Behemoth is a huge elephant than regular elephant. Did you watch on TV about it in Russia? Behemoth was found in Russia in TV show. It existed!
 
"Wrong! Modern versions including Revised Version are wrong! Behemoth is a huge elephant than regular elephant. Did you watch on TV about it in Russia? Behemoth was found in Russia in TV show. It existed!"

This is silly. Now you are saying that all the ancient Jews, modern-day Jews, and all of Christianity is wrong. Mind boggling!

There is none so blind as those who will not see...
 
Since we're quoting the bible, here's another one, custom-made for you, Daft:

..cast not pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you....

What you are sharing is valuable, but they will not appreciate it. :doh:
 
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