Were there fossils beneath the Garden of Eden?

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This question may sound a bit far-fetched, but many Christians are apparently of this opinion, that the Earth is considerably older than the creation which took place about 6000 years ago, and which is recorded in the Bible. This idea, of pre-Eden fossils, is put forward fairly often at our museum, usually by elderly Christians who have "settled themselves to rest" with such a doctrine. What would it mean if there had really been fossils underneath the Garden of Eden? We will examine this question because of its serious implications for our faith.

"Fossils" are petrified organisms - not just of plants but also of dead animals. They must have died by some means before their petrification, but how exactly? Did God create Adam with the intention that he should die? Or, had He said concerning any animal that it should serve as food for some others? Anyone familiar with the chapters relating to Creation in Genesis can answer this for himself.

We are so very familiar with our transient existence, to sin, disease and bloodshed on earth, that, unaided, we cannot have any idea at all of just how glorious and "very good" the creation of God was initially. We can only learn about it from the Bible. And it is there that we also learn why this glory and goodness doesn't exist any longer. God had created us with a free will. It was Adam's sin - rebellion against God - that introduced death into the world (Romans 5:12). Or do we imagine that God would have agreed to share His company with sinners who lived forever?

The word of God paints an absolutely glorious picture of our origin. However, what the Bible says about the subsequent course of the history of mankind covers us with shame. Yes, we did propagate our race and we filled the earth. But we all are descendants of the same single rebellious and unfaithful man and are therefore separated from our Maker forever. By nature we too have become no more than biomass!

Adam's sin has been handed down to us. The way of all flesh is this: to return to the ground! That dead animals can turn to stone is remarkable enough. But this process can, if we remain true to the Word of Truth, have taken place only after the creation was made "very good". No fossiliferous layers lay under the Garden of Eden! Nor, still less, were any millions of years needed to form them! Our earth is really only about 6000 years old!

The first dead animal that there ever was, was killed by God Himself. He made clothes for Adam and Eve from it (Genesis 3:2). An animal had to die to cover their sin. Some time later, Abel brought an offering to God. This was "from the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof" (Genesis 4:4). One wonders whether we modern Christians would have been able to discern God's purpose, without any instruction, that He would give His only Son for our sins in due time? Abel's name signifies but a "Puff". Yet he stands at the head of all others who ever have believed in God (Hebrews 11:4)!

We don't intend here to go into the "biblical arguments" that are put forward by modern Christians for an allegedly millions-of-years old earth, for a "creation before creation", or a "restitution" within the six creation days. We have to do that often enough during museum visits. If there really had been rock layers with fossils under the original Garden of Eden, death would not have come into the world through that one man, Adam (1 Corinthians 15:21) but would already have been there a very long time! If death was not the "wages of sin", i.e. the payment for it, then Christ could not have paid for our sins with His death on the cross! This makes clear how unwise it is to preach as doctrines from the pulpit, notions like a "creation before creation" or a "restitution of the earth" during creation week!

And now something practical: In Argentina thousands of dinosaur eggs have been discovered on an area of above 1 square kilometres (NATURE, 19 November 1998, pp 258-261). They are from the "Cretaceous" period. It is clear that this period cannot have been before Creation, as we have seen. The "Cretaceous" must have run its course either before, or after, the Flood. How can we decide which?

A geological map of the area shows that before the deposit with the breeding place of the dinosaurs - which is Cretaceous - other fossiliferous deposits of the Jurassic and the Permo-Triassic had already been laid down. The Jurassic fossils are especially important because they contain bivalves that lived world-wide in post-Flood successions (sequences of life communities in disturbed ecosystems). The fossil bivalve genus Trigonia, for example, is distributed, together with quite closely allied species, across Argentina, East Africa, Europe, Turkmenistan etc. During the following period, called the "Cretaceous", the Jurassic sea drained off following tilting movements of the Earth's crust, and the dinosaurs flocked together on that site in Argentina to lay their eggs. Their eggs, however, did not hatch, but were buried under further sediment following some new subsidence of the area.

As long as we take the Bible at its face value we need not perform geological (or theological) contortions! Time and again we rejoice with our visitors about just how firm a foundation our faith in Jesus Christ is built on!

http://www.lebendigevorwelt.de/rundbriefe/1999-04.en.htm
 
Many Christian Scientists believed that most dinosaurs died out during the Deludge (Flood). the Pulluxury River south of Dallas proved that humans existed with Dinosaurs. One of them even walked over human footprints!

I recalled someone here yelled that Evolution is a fact!!!! This finding the human and dinosaur footprints is considered as fact and that proved evolution wrong.

That's what they said. Even one evolutionist was shocked at this finding. But sadly it is being swept under the rug to keep the false doctrine "Evolution" alive.
 
Most modern theologians agree there is no contridiction in the theories of evolution and the Bible.
 
Interesting thread there Liebling.


I kinda agree with halford here.

I thought both Christian Scientists and Creationist believes that the dinosaurs died from not enough food dued from worldwide flood.
 
I know it is off topic with diansour but my first thought, Garden of Eden, where was it created?
 
jazzy said:
I know it is off topic with diansour but my first thought, Garden of Eden, where was it created?

I think it's in Iraq.
 
I only know that dinosaurs were killed by unearth but I don't know the reason why they has to die.

Fossil remains prove that they were killed by unearth because remains are deep under of earth.
 
Daft said:
There is/was no physical location for the Garden of Eden.


*nodding* There were no journalists nor historians were around during those time to proven where Garden of Eden was found.
 
Liebling:-))) said:


Thanks for providing a link Liebling :thumb: I read it and it says,

So, what are we to make of this latest claim that the Garden of Eden has been found? The claim is wrong because the researchers did not account for all the Bible facts, especially the effects of Noah’s Flood. The Garden of Eden was not in eastern Turkey, or anywhere in the Middle East. It was destroyed in Noah’s global cataclysm and we do not know where it was, and probably never can know.


So, Nobody really knows for sure where it was found. ;)
 
I think people are getting the spiritual and the physical confused here.
 
This is an older thread of the year of 2005, people had the change of heart and thoughts.

I can see my old posts here that I don't think that way as the present time. Let's create new threads not pulling up old ones.
 
Yes I know, I did see the same as you as well but I rather to pull old threads than create a new thread because there're many good positive posts in old threads. If I see what I wrote is not right then quote my post to let them know that I change and correct something.
 
Well some of Christians told me that God take the Garden of Eden away..
 
Well some of Christians told me that God take the Garden of Eden away..

You misunderstood, Adam and Eve were thrown out of the Garden of Eden God then blocked their access to enter the Garden of Eden. Later, The Garden of Eden were destroyed during the flood.

Garden of Eden called Paradise.
 
You misunderstood, Adam and Eve were thrown out of the Garden of Eden God then blocked their access to enter the Garden of Eden. Later, The Garden of Eden were destroyed during the flood.

Garden of Eden called Paradise.

Actually I didn't misunderstood, it's just some of Christians told me.. But anyway, thank you for explaination :)
 
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