God Issue

IcedTeaRulz said:
Well, God has a reason why he not answered ur prayers. U said "wanna, wanna, wanna" than say "need this and that".

Maybe God has a reason why he not answered ur prayer cuz of ur bitterness due to ur loss hearing etc and blame on God.

Look at the Bible, Psalms 66:18

"If I regard (keep or hold) iniquity (sin) in my heart, the Lord will not hear me".

RavenSteve61,

What do u think my statement? Sounds right?
 
IcedTeaRulz said:
RavenSteve61,

What do u think my statement? Sounds right?


Don't you mind I hop in between of you?

God do not do anything for you but God is doing for himself. Therefore he decides whatever he want to do with you. He already know why, what, when, how could you pray before everyone were exist because you were his imagine.
 
ravensteve1961 said:
Be Patient? Im getting too damn old being Patient.Since when seniors have kids?

A former actor - Anthony Quinn had a kid when he was 80 something few years ago before he passed away. He's a senior.
 
deaf24fan said:
A former actor - Anthony Quinn had a kid when he was 80 something few years ago before he passed away. He's a senior.
Also:

James Doohan, the burly chief engineer of the Starship Enterprise in the original "Star Trek" TV series and motion pictures who responded to the command "Beam me up, Scotty," died early Wednesday. He was 85.
... In 1974 he married Wende Braunberger, and their children were Eric, Thomas and Sarah, who was born in 2000, when Doohan was 80.

Also:

Senator Strom Thurmond was born Dec. 5, 1902 in Edgefield, SC... He married Nancy Janice Moore Dec. 22, 1968. They had four children: Nancy Moore (1971-1993), James Strom II (1972- ), Juliana "Julie" Gertrude (1974- ) and Paul Reynolds (1976- ).
Strom was 74 years old when Paul was born.

Also:

Tony Randall...married Heather Harlan in 1995 (she was 24, he was 75) and they had two children, Julia (b. 1997) and Jefferson (b. 1998)...
He was 78 years old.
 
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Crazymanw00t said:
Don't you mind I hop in between of you?

God do not do anything for you but God is doing for himself. Therefore he decides whatever he want to do with you. He already know why, what, when, how could you pray before everyone were exist because you were his imagine.

Huh? My statement is for RS, not you. U need to go back and read before I posted for RS. So u will undy why. Thanks.
 
IcedTeaRulz said:
Huh? My statement is for RS, not you. U need to go back and read before I posted for RS. So u will undy why. Thanks.
I know I am correcting you for little misunderstanding with the whole concept of prayers.
 
Crazymanw00t said:
I know I am correcting you for little misunderstanding with the whole concept of prayers.

Misunderstanding? No. Look at RS what he said. He said that he try to pray God what he wants this and that but not have answer from God. I just gave him what the reasons why God not answered his prayer so I gave him a simple verse. Ok? End of discussion. Thanks.
 
IcedTeaRulz said:
Misunderstanding? No. Look at RS what he said. He said that he try to pray God what he wants this and that but not have answer from God. I just gave him what the reasons why God not answered his prayer so I gave him a simple verse. Ok? End of discussion. Thanks.

Yes I know about that but your reason is a misunderstanding thing.
 
Crazymanw00t said:
Yes I know about that but your reason is a misunderstanding thing.

U didn't respect me after I said "End of discussion"

My message for RS, not you. Just share him understand why God not answered his prayer etc. I just simple gave RS this verse to help him. Ok? U jumped on me and corrected me. It bothers me.

It is between me and him, period. I not talk to u, I talked to RS. I did posted with his name, not your name, got it?

Do my favor, hand off. Thanks.

U didn't say after I warned u from other forum about ur cuss words. It embrassed me like that.

Crazymanw00t, Read my lips....END OF DISCUSSION. MOVE ON.
 
IcedTeaRulz said:
U didn't respect me after I said "End of discussion"

My message for RS, not you. Just share him understand why God not answered his prayer etc. I just simple gave RS this verse to help him. Ok? U jumped on me and corrected me. It bothers me.

It is between me and him, period. I not talk to u, I talked to RS. I did posted with his name, not your name, got it?

Do my favor, hand off. Thanks.

U didn't say after I warned u from other forum about ur cuss words. It embrassed me like that.

Crazymanw00t, Read my lips....END OF DISCUSSION. MOVE ON.

Ok you are not my boss and you can't close the case anyway. before I made the comments and I asked politely that I said Don't you mind I hop in...?
Secondly of all your verse is very correct. Your explaining about why his prayer was failure and that is very wrongful information and I am required to correct you to prevent farther misinformation with you and RS's friends. It is better to clear up than spreading out the with wrong information.

Well it is extremely too bad that you don't like me to correcting you but it is a must for me to clearing things up. Sorry I am not here to be a 'lovely' guy but to give you a very directly messages.
 
ravensteve1961 said:
Well GOD never answers my prayers like i wanna hear again.I wanna be married. I wanna be a millionare and i he never allows it. I even ask him allow me to date my friend laura and allow it to happen again it was denied.See GOD never answers real prayers what involves in real life.

:ugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:

RS, get realistic! It is God's decision whether to heal our ears to hear or not...it is His plan, His will..not ours!

Maybe God doesnt want you to be a millionaire for some reasons...or maybe you will someday...it would be nice for all of us to be rich, wouldnt it? :D

Perhaps, It is not God's will for you to marry Laura...or maybe it isnt right time for you to date her...

What did you say to her when you ask her out for a date? My advice is never never bring up about sex, relationship or marriage in the beginning of friendship...that is way too much too far...understand what im saying? :)
 
Crazymanw00t said:
Ok you are not my boss and you can't close the case anyway. before I made the comments and I asked politely that I said Don't you mind I hop in...?
Secondly of all your verse is very correct. Your explaining about why his prayer was failure and that is very wrongful information and I am required to correct you to prevent farther misinformation with you and RS's friends. It is better to clear up than spreading out the with wrong information.

Well it is extremely too bad that you don't like me to correcting you but it is a must for me to clearing things up. Sorry I am not here to be a 'lovely' guy but to give you a very directly messages.

WHERE IS UR RESPECT??? IT IS TWICE THAT U DIDNT RESPECT ME AFTER I TOLD U "END OF DISCUSSION", ETC. U KEPT STUBBORN BLAH, BLAH! JEEZ!
 
ravensteve1961 said:
Well GOD never answers my prayers like i wanna hear again.I wanna be married. I wanna be a millionare and i he never allows it. I even ask him allow me to date my friend laura and allow it to happen again it was denied.See GOD never answers real prayers what involves in real life.
James 4:3 (KJV)

Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts.
 
I read a thread somewhere else. It was a bunch of christians debating a Christian Idenity person. Those are the folks who say that the Jews are hellbound and that blacks and other people of color are mud races.
Something that someone wrote struck me.....He said that God does not look at the outside, but rather what's inside. He does not judge people on their skin color, or the fact that they may love someone with the same bits as them.
Crazymanwoot......I know you and Reba and the others are all "love the sinner hate the sin".......but it isn't even clear whether or not it's a sin at all.... How can showing my love for someone be a sin? I can clearly see how tons of other things in the Bible are sins, but Jesus Himself never ever said ANYTHING about homosexuality being "evil" or a sin......Jesus....the man who founded your religion....He said "Love your neighbor as your brother."
He also said "He who is without sin cast the first stone"
Only God knows whether or not being gay is a sin..... You cannot and should not harp on us being sinners.....We don't knock on your door screaming that you're sinning b/c you're making money to keep up with the Joneses, or that you're cheating on your wife or that you did any number of things that the Bible says is a sin.
I bet in a hundred years.....or maybe even SOONER most Christians won't even think twice about homosexuality and people will be like "huh? What the heck was the fuss all about?" just the way people of today are when they read about the fuss in the '60's about cilvil rights or when they read that people in the '30's and 40's were OK with Hitler b/c he was getting rid of the Jews!
 
deafdyke said:
...Crazymanwoot...I know you and Reba and the others are all "love the sinner hate the sin"...but it isn't even clear whether or not it's a sin at all.... How can showing my love for someone be a sin? I can clearly see how tons of other things in the Bible are sins, but Jesus Himself never ever said ANYTHING about homosexuality being "evil" or a sin......Jesus....the man who founded your religion....He said "Love your neighbor as your brother."
Jesus said, "love thy neighbour as thyself."

Matt 19:19
Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Matt 22:39
And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Mark 12:31
And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

Mark 12:33
And to love him with all the heart, and with all the understanding, and with all the soul, and with all the strength, and to love his neighbour as himself, is more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices.

Luke 10:27
And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.

Rom 13:9
For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Rom 13:10
Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

Gal 5:14
For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

James 2:8
If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:

Jesus said to love your neighbor with spiritual love; He didn't say to have sex with your neighbor.


... You cannot and should not harp on us being sinners....
I only respond to the topic that others bring up. I don't "harp" on it. You mentioned my name in your post, so I am responding.

We don't knock on your door screaming that you're sinning b/c you're making money to keep up with the Joneses, or that you're cheating on your wife or that you did any number of things that the Bible says is a sin.
Fine. I don't knock on the doors of any homosexuals and scream that they are sinning either.


I bet in a hundred years.....or maybe even SOONER most Christians won't even think twice about homosexuality and people will be like "huh?
Sadly, that may come true. Strong preaching is fading away, and homosexuality is becoming more and more "mainstream" and socially acceptable. That doesn't make it right, just popular.

What the heck was the fuss all about?" just the way people of today are when they read about the fuss in the '60's about cilvil rights or when they read that people in the '30's and 40's were OK with Hitler b/c he was getting rid of the Jews!
That comparison is an insult to European Jews and American blacks. :mad:
 
Fine. I don't knock on the doors of any homosexuals and scream that they are sinning either.
I meant that figitivarly...... You are intruding on our private lives by judging us! You are screaming that we're sinning by your declaration that our love or the way we express our love is a sin or evil! I just don't get that God would call my love (and He is love in case you've forgotten) a sin on the par with murder or rape or whatever!
That comparison is an insult to European Jews and American blacks.
Oh really? They used the Bible to condemn black folks and deny them civil rights.....up until the 40's anti-Semitism WAS not thought of as something redneck or KuKlux Klanny.......it was just a part of mainstream Christianity!
 
deafdyke said:
...Oh really? They used the Bible to condemn black folks and deny them civil rights.....up until the 40's anti-Semitism WAS not thought of as something redneck or KuKlux Klanny.......it was just a part of mainstream Christianity!
Who are "They"? I think you should read more actual history books, not the "politically correct" versions. There was a very high percentage of white Christians that strongly preached against slavery, and supported underground railroads and anti-slavery movements across the United States (especially the Northeast) and in England. Black and white Christians, with their pastors and priests, marched together for civil rights. Many "mainstream" Christians risked and sacrificed their lives (the Righteous Gentiles) to save European Jews during the Holocaust. Next to American Jews, American Christians are the largest group of supporters of Israel.

Being black or being a Jew is not a sin. They should not be grouped with homosexuals. That is a red herring argument.
 
THANK TO deafdyke for bring those up!

deafdyke said:
I read a thread somewhere else. It was a bunch of christians debating a Christian Idenity person. Those are the folks who say that the Jews are hellbound and that blacks and other people of color are mud races.
you can say, I am mud race for who I am and I am pride for what I created by Great-great-great Fathers and God. Since I dwell in him and the father dwell in me for real all I knew that!


deafdyke said:
He said that God does not look at the outside, but rather what's inside. He does not judge people on their skin color, or the fact that they may love someone with the same bits as them.
Yes, God judged people on their flesh of colors. Look scripture: Genesis 24:3 Abraham dont want his childern to marry to canaanites. Genesis 28:1, 6 Issac and his wife Rebakah did not want their sons take wife from daughters of canaanites. carefully look at 1 Thessalonians 5:5 Ye are all the childern of Light and childern of the day and 1 John 1:5 God is light and in him is no darkness at all.

Yes God has color, God is light which meaning God is white! like John says, No blackness is in him at all. He is white/ Light as white gold!! get it? For example black married white female, they reproduced light-skinned childerns.. pure blacks saw lighter childern of their parents are black and white.


Reba said:
That comparison is an insult to European Jews and American blacks. :mad:
Reba, Dont make me or another black folks are category of jews. Jews and blacks are totally differents, Jews never have turns themselves into slavery for more than 300 years like me and my people who are here for slavery 400 years.. Nazi never put the chain on hands and feets of jews and whipped their backs as slave to nazi empires.. they held of jews for 5 years less... On shore of North America who did put chained hands and on feets of blacks, they make blacks as slaves without rights or freedom around since 1500...white beated blacks back with whipped, different weapons. they made black's suffering without release or freedom and rights for more than 400 years..

what the f***ing special about jewish people to me and my people, Huh? jewish is what, jewish is what??


deafdyke said:
Oh really? They used the Bible to condemn black folks and deny them civil rights.....up until the 40's anti-Semitism WAS not thought of as something redneck or KuKlux Klanny.......it was just a part of mainstream Christianity!
Deakdyke, Yes Your saying was right about white christians used bible against black folks and eliminated blacks's freedoms and rights. Even they rights to have raped black female slaves everydays and everynights. they ended up reproudced me and childerns as offsprings over land of USA, whites sold me and his own childerns from black female slaves to white as on market for selling slaves.. German never selling jew slaves to others or somethngs unlike america had done to me and my families. because white people think that I and my family are not part of their life since their fathers who raped black females to reproduced me and offspring of father who was white master!


Reba said:
Who are "They"?
Reba, Yes I know who are they, since I acknowledged what Deafdyke try to say.. but you knew what deafdyke already say it. she or he said, they are specific whites, no else.. you knew it.. dont play fool!
 
ckfarbes said:
Reba, Dont make me or another black folks are category of jews.
I am not putting black and Jews into one category. Deafdyke brought up that comparison. She was putting homosexuals, blacks, and Jews all into a similar category of oppression by Christians. I stated that they were NOT the same.

Jews and blacks are totally differents, Jews never have turns themselves into slavery for more than 300 years like me and my people who are here for slavery 400 years..
The Jews were slaves in Egypt and Babylon for many hundreds of years.

I don't think it serves any useful purpose to argue who suffered more, blacks or Jews. They suffered under different cruel masters, in different locations, at different times, for different reasons. However, slavery is slavery, genocide is genocide--it is all awful and horribly wrong.


what the f***ing special about jewish people to me and my people, Huh? jewish is what, jewish is what??
The Jews are God's chosen people. That doesn't mean that He loves your people any less. It just means that God has a special plan for the Jews.


Reba, Yes I know who are they, since I acknowledged what Deafdyke try to say.. but you knew what deafdyke already say it. she or he said, they are specific whites, no else.. you knew it.. dont play fool!
I know what Deafdyke is trying to do. She wants to lump all "Christians" into one Bible-thumping, hate-mongering, intolerant pile. She uses "they" because it is non-specific and therefore doesn't require proof. It is a convenient tool for avoiding specific evidence. It is commonly used for stereotyping people.
 
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