Do you treat human and animal equal?

[Reba]

You said that animal don´t have rights to marry, vote, etc... I said that we are not obligate to marry, vote, drive, etc.

Rights are not the same as obligations.

...A human get punishment for abuse an innoncent animal.
An animal put sleep for abuse an innoncent human.

Is it fair?

Legally, animals aren't put to sleep for "abusing" humans. They are put to sleep for attacking humans.

You didn't provide much information regarding the comparison, so I can only base my answer on those scanty details.

Yes, that's fair.

Yes there´re people who are volunteer to do medical experimentation.

But animals don't volunteer. So if people and animals are equal, that means people should be forced to experience medical experimentation.

I educate my children to show their respect on animals and treat them as our own family. I love my children and animals as the same my children love us and animals.

That's your choice (I won't tell DSS).

My grandsons aren't my pets, and my pets aren't my children. I will never compare my precious grandsons to animals, and I refuse to treat them like animals.

You use the name "rabis" which you know that rabis doesn´t for human but animal. I only said vaccination in general way without name which shot, the human and animal needs because vaccination are for human and animal, period.

That's the point. We're comparing humans and animals. Humans and animals are NOT the same, and shouldn't be treated the same way.

BTW, humans can die from rabies. That's why dogs are required to get rabies vaccinations. Humans are not required to get the shots. Humans get rabies shots only if they've been exposed to a rabid animal.

cannibalism? *scratch my head* I give up... :roll:

Do your kids eat meat? (Ham, beef, chicken, any kind of meat)

I said that I treat people and animals equal.

So you don't eat any meat, right? You don't wear leather, right? Good. That is totally equal treatment.

Sorry I do not understand your post... I only said human and animal in general way, not cow and my kids.

OK, I'll make it more general.

Do your kids eat meat, any kind of meat?

No, you are the one who brought the subject about cannibalism up in first place.

If a person believes animals are equal to a human child, then is it equally OK to eat human flesh? Or is it equally wrong to eat all flesh, human and animal?

wow... I really has no idea that you keep on talk about cannibalism... wow... Perhap your experiences is different as mine...

I eat animal meat because humans and animals are not the same.
I don't eat human meat because humans and animals are not the same.

You can eat (or not eat) both animal and human meat because you believe humans and animals are the same.

 

[Foxrac]

They are lying side-by-side.

But the details aren't important. The point is, what is more important to you--the life of your child, or the life of a pet. There IS a difference.

If so then I wouldn't save both of them, left them in burning house then... would be fair?

You are getting more debating about it, though then I'm treat both of them fairly.

Both of human and animal are same, if this child isn't mine then I will pick to save my cats.

That's my business, also that what I want too.

 

[shel90]

Well, that's what this thread is about right? You wanted our opinions, right?


I didn't say "obligate". I said animals shouldn't have the "right" to do those things.


I said they shouldn't have the "right" to do those things. Animals and humans don't have equal "rights".



I said they shouldn't be "forced" to do those things.

This would be so much simpler if you would just read the words that I write.



Your children are forced to get annual rabies vaccinations?!

People are forced to wear collars and leashes?!

Maybe they do that in Germany but they sure don't do that in the USA.


That's nice to know but it has absolutely nothing to do with my statement.

But since you brought up the subject, at least your children are eating healthy cat food, eh?

Your children don't eat meat do they? If animals and people are equal, I guess that would be cannibalism.

I laughed sooo hard at your comments.

 

[shel90]

If so then I wouldn't save both of them, left them in burning house then... would be fair?

You are getting more debating about it, though then I'm treat both of them fairly.

Both of human and animal are same, if this child isn't mine then I will pick to save my cats.

That's my business, also that what I want too.

I sure hope my kids are not in a burning house with your animals!!!

 

[shel90]

at Reba and Liebling's debate..I laughed at some of them. Not to be mean but I couldnt help it.

I dont see animals and humans as equals so I voted no.

 

[jazzy]

I voted other.

I could shoot dogs if they attack horse, cow, chicken as we did in the past. I do not consder those running lose dogs are equal because they go out and killing every animal they see. Also dogs hate cats, they would kill cats. I hate dogs that running around and attack me every time I tried to deliever the mails to their houses.

Reason I voted other, some dogs I consider as equal if they do police work, work for the miltary as I watched last night about dogs sniff the bombs on the road in Afganstan and saved the lives of soldiers. Umm also dogs help blind and deaf.

We bury our animals and reptiles in our backyard and we are not allowed to bury me or my husband in our backyard so we are not considering equal.

I do have problem with Canadians killing seals in the wilderness . So cruel of them to hit seals with metal on their heads to kill them.

I do have problem with companies use animals for experiment or testing alike perfume testing on them. Not right for them to treat them as things.

 

[Reba]

I sure hope my kids are not in a burning house with your animals!!!

Don't let Pacman babysit for your kids.

 

[Foxrac]

Don't let Pacman babysit for your kids.

You are just guess about me, though.

I don't like to be babysit with kids, that my personal.

Remember, my personal are different then I have rights to take care of my lovely cats, not for you.

Again, you and Shel don't know about who is me, also never met in real life.

 

[shel90]

You are just guess about me, though.

I don't like to be babysit with kids, that my personal.

Remember, my personal are different then I have rights to take care of my lovely cats, not for you.

Again, you and Shel don't know about who is me, also never met in real life.

Right, we have never met but on that one I have to disagree with u. I would save anyone's children over my pets anytime.

 

[Foxrac]

Right, we have never met but on that one I have to disagree with u. I would save anyone's children over my pets anytime.

It wasn't from us, Reba started to bought a post about burning house with pet and child, that's complicate question for me and Liebling but Liebling prefer to save all of them and Reba said her answer isn't right then asked to pick one. Now, You and me are different, I don't want my lovely cats to die from burning house or whatever.

Discuss about burning house is bad thing, that's parent's responsible to install smoke detector to prevent from any fatal from burning house, also allow for them to get out.

 

[Maria]

Well, if my house happen burns down and my kids are inside the house along with my other dogs..then, I would grab my kids out of the house while CALLIN' my dogs' names. They will follow after me.

But, if my dogs are babies and got stuck inside the house while I grab my kids out...then, I will understand that there's nothin' I could do to save my dogs. I will probably mourn for my own loss. My children are important to me rather than dogs -- if there's a fire involved. There's always other dogs out there I could get another one... same kinds that I have, if my dogs should die in the fire.

My children will NEVER be replaced, if I should save my dogs instead.

 

[Reba]

It wasn't from us, Reba started to bought a post about burning house with pet and child, that's complicate question for me and Liebling but Liebling prefer to save all of them and Reba said her answer isn't right then asked to pick one. Now, You and me are different, I don't want my lovely cats to die from burning house or whatever.

Discuss about burning house is bad thing, that's parent's responsible to install smoke detector to prevent from any fatal from burning house, also allow for them to get out.

There's no reason to get upset about this.

The details of a fire are not important. It could be any situation; a car wreck, a sinking boat, the last dose of medicine, falling off a cliff, whatever. The point is, the life of a child is always more important than the life of any animal.

It wasn't a matter of Liebling's answer being "right" or "wrong"; it wasn't an option in the scenario as presented. If you take a "true or false" test, you can't answer "C"; that's not one of the choices available.

 

[KarissaMann05]

There's no reason to get upset about this.

The details of a fire are not important. It could be any situation; a car wreck, a sinking boat, the last dose of medicine, falling off a cliff, whatever. The point is, the life of a child is always more important than the life of any animal.

It wasn't a matter of Liebling's answer being "right" or "wrong"; it wasn't an option in the scenario as presented. If you take a "true or false" test, you can't answer "C"; that's not one of the choices available.

I am not here to insult others, inculding you. In the my own view, to save animals over children is quiet selfish.. Or.. just children are nothing more important than animal? Wow, no wonder why there are a lot of anti-child people hate kids so they rather to save their pets over children. That's love thing to do right thing?

I will call that "selfish choice". Thought, Reba?

 

[Tousi]

I am not here to insult others, inculding you. In the my own view, to save animals over children is quiet selfish.. Or.. just children are nothing more important than animal? Wow, no wonder why there are a lot of anti-child people hate kids so they rather to save their pets over children. That's love thing to do right thing?

I will call that "selfish choice". Thought, Reba?

Just for clarification, Reba was talking to Pacman. And, yeah, I agree with you children are more "important" than animals.

 

[javapride]

got to reading these post,

and i have to say this the yes and no and the other question is just bias but i did post yes we do treat one another equal BUT

We are the pack leaders, we are thier bosses we are thier owners we dont pooh pooh over them with gilizty stuff, I had to deal with a major dog fight and now my dog lilo and my old dog maxi can NEVER be together after 4 yrs now, no thanks to the chicks dying long story. but it left us with no choice. so lilo's out oin the front porch and when its time for my bed shes in my room and maxi's in the other... So who's the dominant? WE ARE not the dogs the dogs are to obey OUR rules. if we treat them like babies this is what the result will turn out.

I need not say anything further.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

got to reading these post,

and i have to say this the yes and no and the other question is just bias but i did post yes we do treat one another equal BUT

We are the pack leaders, we are thier bosses we are thier owners we dont pooh pooh over them with gilizty stuff, I had to deal with a major dog fight and now my dog lilo and my old dog maxi can NEVER be together after 4 yrs now, no thanks to the chicks dying long story. but it left us with no choice. so lilo's out oin the front porch and when its time for my bed shes in my room and maxi's in the other... So who's the dominant? WE ARE not the dogs the dogs are to obey OUR rules. if we treat them like babies this is what the result will turn out.

I need not say anything further.

Yes humans and animals are not same and have different ways but they should be treat as equal because they deserve respect. It's great that Animals have their own rights/law as the same humans have their own rights/law as well because they deserve it.

Humans have different races but they are still treat equal as the animal because we all have the same feeling and suffering. Some humans do not treat humans equal because of their racism and sexism. It's the same thing as the animals. I beleive in treat humans and animals equal because they deserve my respect.

Some ADers confused my question of my title thread and thought that I said that the human and animal are equal. I said "Do you treat human and animal equal?", not "Do human and animal are the equal/same".. They need to read my title carefully before jump wrong and use materials to compare between animals and humans.

I create a thread to ask question either you treat animal and human equal or not which mean that the animals and humans deserve loving and responsible owner/parents/whatever and also respect as well, not compare the foods what humans and animals eats etc. because we know that they have different life but we have feeling for our animals because they should not treat horrible, abuse, cruelty from human and being use as animal testing, etc.

I will be back for further posts later.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Well, if my house happen burns down and my kids are inside the house along with my other dogs..then, I would grab my kids out of the house while CALLIN' my dogs' names. They will follow after me.

Accord Reba's question. Not Kid(s)... Just one kid or one animal, no matter either how many kids you have.

That's why I didn't answer Reba's question because I can't pick one of 2 boys to save and left one boy and animals in the fire. I know what Reba try to question about but I still do not answer it.

My children will NEVER be replaced, if I should save my dogs instead.

Correct, the children will NEVER be replacement, that's why I didn't answer Reba's question because I myself have 2 boys. She said only one child or one animal which is not for me. I am like you who tries to save all children including animals, no matter what not one child or one animal. I alarm firemen and tries to save ALL who lives in same household.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Don't let Pacman babysit for your kids.

I won't let anyone babysit for my boys and animals because they would pick only one child to rescue and leave other boy and animals alone in the fire which is really scary.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

It wasn't from us, Reba started to bought a post about burning house with pet and child, that's complicate question for me and Liebling but Liebling prefer to save all of them and Reba said her answer isn't right then asked to pick one. Now, You and me are different, I don't want my lovely cats to die from burning house or whatever.

Discuss about burning house is bad thing, that's parent's responsible to install smoke detector to prevent from any fatal from burning house, also allow for them to get out.

Yes, that's correction. It's property owner's responsible who neglect their house safety and let the fire... That's why the property owner feel duty/obligate to rescue all of them, not just pick one and leave them in the fire. Of course they alarm fire emergencies and try to save all who live in the same household.

 

[vrsterp]

It's silly to take man out of the food chain just because he's at the top.

Man isn't at the top. And it's not a line. It's a web.