Do you treat human and animal equal?

Do you treat human and animal equal?

  • Yes

    Votes: 19 59.4%
  • No

    Votes: 10 31.3%
  • Other

    Votes: 3 9.4%

  • Total voters
    32
I am not here to insult others, inculding you. In the my own view, to save animals over children is quiet selfish.. Or.. just children are nothing more important than animal? Wow, no wonder why there are a lot of anti-child people hate kids so they rather to save their pets over children. That's love thing to do right thing?

I will call that "selfish choice". Thought, Reba? :)

I don't appreciate to bash on my personal.
 
According on my opinion, both of children and animals are important, especially for pets.

There's one question about human, what would you recuse at first? 8 month old son or 9 years old daughter

Ah, that's what I thought so... That's why I don't answer Reba's previous question about the child and animal in fire because I disagree to pick one to rescue and leave others behind.

I am thrilling to see Reba or other react on this question, you made toward them.
 
That's right, house and school building aren't same.

At school building, it's children's responsible to listen at fire alarm, also it's major responsible for teachers to ask them to get out of this building and there's fire drill in most public school district, that required from state law.

At house is different story, it's parent's responsible to teach kids to how get out during burn in house, that's applied for children who is old enough. If it's babies or toddlers then I must rescue them by carrying on my hand and get out of house. It does same applied to pets that who is infant or small.

Babies and toddlers can be die so easier from overheating if not rescue so properly or prefer to rescue older children at first.


Yes that's correction. I taught my children about safety and how to protect themselves from danger. They learn how to protect themselves to escape from danger. They are also taught at school as well. It's my responsible to rescue babies and toddler, also children and animals as well. My first thing is run to my children and ask them for the help and carry baby or toddler out with them and make sure that they are really out. My hubby & I are last one to stay in and rescue animals in the house before get out. Its about help each other how to protect and escape away from danger.
 
Yes I know that animal and human are not equal/same but treat them equal with respect where the title of my thread is about. This is a difference between "animal and human are not equal" and "Treat animal and human equal".[/QUOTE]

I disagree. Even if we claim to treat a family member and a family pet "equally," family pets still get to be treated differently. It is quite a contradictiory statement. We leave pets behind at home if we go out to movies, restaurants, etc... Family pets sometimes get left behind when people go on vacations, and caretakers are assigned to take care of the pets. So, we still treat pets differently than our family members even if we profess to treat them both equally.
 
According on my opinion, both of children and animals are important, especially for pets.

There's one question about human, what would you recuse at first? 8 month old son or 9 years old daughter

That is an easy question to answer..Grab BOTH kids!
An 8 year old child can run, can she/he? tell that child to run and you
grab the baby, thats all. If the 8 year old child is unconscious, then
grab the child by the arm, carry over the shoulder, drag the child if you have to, and carrythe baby, simple!
My husband was a former EMT....so i know the answer.
 
Just for clarification, Reba was talking to Pacman. And, yeah, I agree with you children are more "important" than animals.

I was actually talking to Reba about *childfree* because this pacman's quote just reminded me something about childfree community. Ofc, i dont bother him and I just asked Reba. ^^: But, thanks. :)
 
I don't appreciate to bash on my personal.

Oh, no. your pervious quote was reminded me of childfree community. Gee, I dont mean to bash you and I just asked Reba about it. I'm so sorry if I insult your personal. :eek3: :[
 
Now you know why my hair is spiky; it's because these posts make me pull at my hair in frustration. Aaaarrrgggghhh!!!

I'll say it again ('tho I think no one is paying attention)--the burning house is irrelevant to the issue. I just used that as an example. It could be any situation--a drowning, a wreck, a lack of water, limited money, limited time, WHATEVER. Quit focusing on the scenario and focus on the real question. The real question is, what is more important to you--a pet animal, or a human child.

This isn't a thread about fire safety or rescue training; please try to focus.

The question is: do you treat humans and animals equally? Do you use equal resources of time, money, and energy for animals and humans? Do you put equal value on the life of an animal and the life of a human? Would you honestly sacrifice the well being of a human for an animal?

The example of a burning house was to prove that you can't value an animal and a human equally. The example has nothing (nada, zero, zip) to do with every possible combination of numbers of people and animals, rescue training, house size, fire prevention and drills, firemen, blah, blah, blah.

I guess the real answer to my question is, that ADers would be too busy debating all the details of the situation to have enough time to rescue anyone. :roll:
 
Aww I am so sorry, Reba. I do understand you. I believe children/or child is # 1 to me than animals if, anythin' should happen like a house is on fire or somethin' that is really bad.

I don't believe that human and animal are equal like Lieblin' believe.
 
... The judge sentence crimes with different races differently.
That's called discrimination. That's against human rights.


They refused to vote Hillary Clinton because she is a woman...
"They" who? Who voted against Hillary Clinton "because she is a woman"?


Disability rights should be not discrimination and neglect etc. It’s exact same thing as animals rights as well for not abuse and use them as animal testing, treat them horrible or throw animal out to shelter that's because the owners are fed up with them, use animals to business with circus, etc. They should not do that to animals.
Is killing animals for food against their "rights"?

Is sterilizing an animal without consent against their "rights"?

Is using a dog for rescue or police work against its "rights"?

Is using a dog or dolphin for defense work against their "rights"?

Is killing vermin that eat crops against their "rights"?

Just asking.

It’s not matter which different we are but we all have the same feeling, pain and suffering. All what I am saying here is the animal and human should be treat equal with respect, no more than that.
Does that respect include cows, chickens, turkeys, pigs, lambs, fish, lobster, etc.?

I am glad that humans have heart to fix the law/rights for animals and treat them equal with respect because they knows that animals can't defend themselves against humans's cruelty, abuse, etc. It’s wonderful if every animal who have loving and responsible owner, not beaten, burned, abused, give away to shelter, throw them to street, etc.
I'm glad that there are laws against animal cruelty and neglect. I wish every person would be responsible in taking care of their animals. But I don't expect animals and humans to be treated with the equal respect.


I think it’s ridiculous to use “material”, foods, rights etc as an example to compare animals and humans because they are not psychological beings. Yes they live different and eat different foods etc but they have same feeling, suffering and pain as us. They deserve our respect that animal should not be treat worthless.
I didn't mention anything about psychology.

I'm just asking, if "they have the same feeling, suffering and pain as us", then should we eat them?


Humans didn't get death penalty for kill animals but punishment.
Animals get "death penalty" for attack/hurt survivors.

Is it fair?
If an animal is proven dangerous to people or other animals, then normally it has to be euthanized. It can't be trusted to be around people or other animals, and is a danger to others. That's sad but it's the safest way to protect the lives of others.


*scratch my head* I do not understand your answer. Where have I said that I treat my children as animal...
You said you treat your children and pets as equal family members. So the animals are equal to the kids, and the kids are equal to the animals.


Okay, I respect your choice for not educate them to be good and kind to other animals as well as humans. It teachs them to believe that animals are worthless.
I never said that I chose to not educate my child to be good and kind to animals. I taught my daughter to be kind to animals thru discussion and by example. While growing up, my daughter saw the examples of Hubby and me being kind to our pets, and to stray animals. When she was a little girl, she and I did volunteer work for the local animal shelter. She saw me many times rescue stray or hurt animals. She saw me protect bird nests from predators, and move turtles off the road. I really don't know how you got the idea that our family doesn't cherish animals. :confused:


Okay, I respect your choice for not treat humans and animals equal with respect.
Yeah, right, whatever. :roll:
 
Aww I am so sorry, Reba. I do understand you. I believe children/or child is # 1 to me than animals if, anythin' should happen like a house is on fire or somethin' that is really bad.

I don't believe that human and animal are equal like Lieblin' believe.
No problem. :)
 
Is killing animals for food against their "rights"?
For humans, yes. For carnivores, no.

Is sterilizing an animal without consent against their "rights"?
It can be. However their wellbeing, along with the wellbeing of their potential offspring would trump that. We domesticated them. It's our responsibility now.

Does that respect include cows, chickens, turkeys, pigs, lambs, fish, lobster, etc.?
yes.



I'm just asking, if "they have the same feeling, suffering and pain as us", then should we eat them?
Nope.



If an animal is proven dangerous to people or other animals, then normally it has to be euthanized.
You're a fan of the death penalty, aren't you?
 
For humans, yes. For carnivores, no.

It can be. However their wellbeing, along with the wellbeing of their potential offspring would trump that. We domesticated them. It's our responsibility now.


yes.



Nope.



You're a fan of the death penalty, aren't you?

Sure, it would have meat shortage issue in near future due lacking of breed and increase more disease from mad cow or bird flu, also new disease can be find in pork in near future. If meat shortage is existing then most of Americans need to eat vegetables, fruits or grains, such as bread and mac.

I'm predicted that meat shortage will occur in before 2050 or so.

When it's existing then better to save cows for produce the milk or you will struck with soy milk.
 
For humans, yes. For carnivores, no.

It can be. However their wellbeing, along with the wellbeing of their potential offspring would trump that. We domesticated them. It's our responsibility now.

yes.


Nope.
I accept the consistency of your answers. :)

I'm curious to see Liebling's answers.


You're a fan of the death penalty, aren't you?
A fan? No. I don't celebrate executions. But I accept them as a necessity in this world. Life is not always pretty and neat.
 
let mutant animal into human-alike and share their intelligence
 
I'm curious to see Liebling's answers.

Sure, you will have my answer soon. :)

A fan? No. I don't celebrate executions. But I accept them as a necessity in this world. Life is not always pretty and neat.

I thought like others that you are a fan of death penatly because you beleive that crimes should deserve it that's what you said in several thread. :dunno:
 
Sure, you will have my answer soon. :)



I thought like others that you are a fan of death penatly because you beleive that crimes should deserve it that's what you said in several thread. :dunno:

That word " fan " is different. It doesn't mean that Reba is a fan of death penalty. It's somethin' else.... a different word. Fan means celebratin' somethin'. Reba is NOT celebratin' of death penalty. Okay ?

I will let Reba to explain this to you in her own words. ;)
 
Wow... Maria, Defee and Reba make me to laugh so hard, no offense.

Well, we are different from others, that need to be respect. ;)

Reba's hair is spiked again, wow...
 
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