Do you treat human and animal equal?

[Reba]

You wouldn't like my answer.

I said that depends on how is distance, if house is more burning when dog is located in first story since one little son is in 2nd story, probably hide in closet then I will get dog at first and don't want get burned because of short distance, also I'm not good rescue, only fireman can do all of it.

They are lying side-by-side.

But the details aren't important. The point is, what is more important to you--the life of your child, or the life of a pet. There IS a difference.

 

[Reba]

Sorry, it make no difference either one or more in household. Let says: You have 3 little children. Should you rescue one of 3 children? I would not pick one but try to do everything to rescue my beloved ones.

You're totally missing the point.

In a real life situation that endangered one son and one cat, if you could save just one of them, which would you save? I'm talking about a situation where there is no possible way to save both of them (and yes, those situations do happen).

Would you let your son die for the sake of your cat? Of course not.

 

[Mistyrose]

You're totally missing the point.

In a real life situation that endangered one son and one cat, if you could save just one of them, which would you save? I'm talking about a situation where there is no possible way to save both of them (and yes, those situations do happen).

Would you let your son die for the sake of your cat? Of course not.

I would save my kid, not a dang cat or dog!
It is a common sense with a rational mind that
you would save a child, a human being, not an
animal.

 

[Mistyrose]

This debate between Reba and me, not you.

I would appreicate that you do not jump the debate between her or anyone and me to tell me do. I repeat in several threads to ask you to not stalk me to several threads to tell me do. Please respect when I have different POV to debate with anyone. You can quote my post if you want to tell me something, not jump between others and me to tell me off.

Im sorry but this is an open discussion and it is not a debate between
you and Reba only, you know that. Also im not an stalker, that is not
fair at all. That is an accusation so please refrain from calling me that.
Im not telling you what to do or nothing. You need to respect me also,
you are so blind when to come to yourself. If you dont like my posts then
just ignore my posts then, ok? Thats what i do if i dont like some people's
posts.
You cant tell me i cant discuss in any threads, if you tell me one more time,
then i will have to report you to the mods, you understand?
Thank you.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Im sorry but this is an open discussion and it is not a debate between
you and Reba only, you know that. Also im not an stalker, that is not
fair at all. That is an accusation so please refrain from calling me that.
Im not telling you what to do or nothing. You need to respect me also,
you are so blind when to come to yourself. If you dont like my posts then
just ignore my posts then, ok? Thats what i do if i dont like some people's
posts.
You cant tell me i cant discuss in any threads, if you tell me one more time,
then i will have to report you to the mods, you understand?
Thank you.

Yes, you has no reason to jump the debate between Reba and me to defend Reba to against me. You kept on complaint in first page of my thread here. It´s not first time that you keep on complaint and critizing my posts like this. What I create my thread is my business. If you don´t like then don´t visit here. I am asking you to respect my thread, I create here since Maria suggest in other thread.

Yes I felt that you stalked me to several threads since you bashed me at Pro-Choice vs Pro-Life thread over human and animals today. ADers correct your posts there. You are the one who alway jumped and complaint about my posts. Simple ignore if you don´t like my posts...

Yes I has the right to ask you to not complaint and critizing my posts. Its about respect, common sense and open mind. Of course, you can report me to Admin. and Mod.(s) when you feel free. I won´t stop you because I know I done nothing wrong and do not violate AD rules. I am sure that Admin. and Moderators will check your posts toward me in several threads and will agree that you didn´t leave me alone.

Anyway, I ask you to respect my thread. If you want to say something then post, not defend others to against others or complaint and critizing ADers´posts.

Thank you.

 

[Mistyrose]

Yes, you has no reason to jump the debate between Reba and me to defend Reba to against me. You kept on complaint in first page of my thread here. It´s not first time that you keep on complaint and critizing my posts like this. What I create my thread is my business. If you don´t like then don´t visit here. I am asking you to respect my thread, I create here since Maria suggest in other thread.

Yes I felt that you stalked me to several threads since you bashed me at Pro-Choice vs Pro-Life thread over human and animals today. ADers correct your posts there. You are the one who alway jumped and complaint about my posts. Simple ignore if you don´t like my posts...

Yes I has the right to ask you to not complaint and critizing my posts. Its about respect, common sense and open mind. Of course, you can report me to Admin. and Mod.(s) when you feel free. I won´t stop you because I know I done nothing wrong and do not violate AD rules. I am sure that Admin. and Moderators will check your posts toward me in several threads and will agree that you didn´t leave me alone.

Anyway, I ask you to respect my thread. If you want to say something then post, not defend others to against others or complaint and critizing ADers´posts.

Thank you.

You do the same thing, YOU DEFEND YOU YOUR PALS! especially your
non-believers pals...so from now on, lets just quit and stop defending
each other. You have done the same thing, in Pro-life thread, you
bash Mann's thread by trying to change the subject..so what are YOU
doing?? Give up already, hypocrite!! You need to stop complaining and
critcrising yourself!
I have every right to come in and discuss in anybody's thread so you cant
tell me i cant post in here..you can always ignore my posts, period. But
you need to be respectfull and quit calling me stalker, geez.
Im not the only one, so quit picking on me..You do that cuz you just
dont like me. You cant stop me from posting, so there.

 

[Reba]

I never say that you said "obligate".

You added the word "obligate", which completely changed the meaning of my original statement.

"We are not obligate to marry, to vote or to drive cars, don´t we?"

Do you mean that it's okay for human to use animals for medical research, testing etc? Is it okay to cause pain for those poor animals, that's because they are only animals which is not same "rights" as human?

I didn't say anything about medical research.

But since you brought it up, let me ask you something. Is it OK to do medical experimentation on humans?

It would be much simple when you has feeling for animals instead of use "materials" as an example to compare human and animal. I defend animal and see animal as my family, not different that's because they are only animal.

When did I say I had no feeling for animals? I think many of my posts prove just the opposite.

People can care about animals and treat them kindly without believing they are equal to their human family. I loved my cats and dogs but they were never as important as my daughter or grandchildren. I would never, never compare my two grandsons to animals, and I would never, never put the welfare of an animal above the welfare of my grandsons.

Just rabies vaccination? I thought you know that there're many different types of vaccinations to fit human and animal, not just rabies vaccination?

Of course I know about vaccinations; but if you want to respond to my original post, then please quote it accurately and not change the context of the comparison. It makes no sense if you change the salient points.

Really? I thought you do not against Toddler-harness, don't you?

Again, you're changing the meaning of my contrast and comparison. Dogs are compelled by leash laws to use collars and leashes. Kids are not compelled by law to use toddler harnesses. It is required by law for dogs, but it is voluntary for parents to use toddler harnesses. That's the difference.

I never said that my children eat cat foods. Can you show me where have I say that my children eats cat foods because I didn't find where I did said that.

I thought you treated your cats and kids equally? They don't eat the same foods? Why not?

cannibalism?

wow interesting, I didn't know that there're legal in your country that human meat is in pet foods...

I did NOT write that human meat is in pet food.

"Your children don't eat meat do they? If animals and people are equal, I guess that would be cannibalism."

You say people and animals are equal.

That means, your kids and the cows that are used for hamburger meat are equal, right?

So, if your kids eat a hamburger, it's like they're eating the meat of an equal being; that's like cannibalism. (Apologies to Soylent Green.)

Since you brought it up, then I guess it would be equally OK to use human meat in dog food, right? That is, everyone is equal, right? Everyone is potential protein for the food chain.

But if you, your kids, and your cats are vegitarians, that is ethical because no one in your family eats any animal or human meat.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

You do the same thing, YOU DEFEND YOU YOUR PALS! especially your
non-believers pals...so from now on, lets just quit and stop defending
each other. You have done the same thing, in Pro-life thread, you
bash Mann's thread by trying to change the subject..so what are YOU
doing?? Give up already, hypocrite!! You need to stop complaining and
critcrising yourself!
I have every right to come in and discuss in anybody's thread so you cant
tell me i cant post in here..you can always ignore my posts, period. But
you need to be respectfull and quit calling me stalker, geez.
Im not the only one, so quit picking on me..You do that cuz you just
dont like me. You cant stop me from posting, so there.

*press bad report on you*

 

[Tousi]

You're totally missing the point.

In a real life situation that endangered one son and one cat, if you could save just one of them, which would you save? I'm talking about a situation where there is no possible way to save both of them (and yes, those situations do happen).

Would you let your son die for the sake of your cat? Of course not.

Me? I'm smelling singed cat hair.

 

[Reba]

I would save my kid, not a dang cat or dog!
It is a common sense with a rational mind that
you would save a child, a human being, not an
animal.

 

[Mistyrose]

No, You was made mistake in your post then look at history, even some in science.

If you think that animal and human aren't equally then you would be okay to abuse or hurt animals, included with pets then would be so insane.

Human is part of animal but they have different species, look at wikipedia.
Human - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

What are u talking about?
I love animals..I would never, ever hurt animals..geez.
I have a dog and i love him to death. I treat him very well.
I dont know what you mean about treating animals equally but
animals are not the same as humans in my opinion. Animals cant
perform like human, thats all. They do have feelings, yes, but
as far as brain capacity like human, no.

 

[Tousi]

They also have no reasoning power nor souls.

 

[PowerON]

animal is from hell, let's kill them and eat. That's why they said god bless us for food.

 

[Reba]

This debate between Reba and me, not you.

But it's OK for other people to respond. This is not Liebling and Reba on "The View". Other people are reading our posts, and have opinions, too. It doesn't bother me as long as they keep it clean.

 

[RedheadGrrl]

I voted yes..

 

[Mistyrose]

U are welcome!

 

[Mistyrose]

They also have no reasoning power nor souls.

Yes you are right, they dont
but dont tell the kiddies that,

lol!

 

[Liebling:-)))]

You added the word "obligate", which completely changed the meaning of my original statement.

"We are not obligate to marry, to vote or to drive cars, don´t we?"

You said that animal don´t have rights to marry, vote, etc... I said that we are not obligate to marry, vote, drive, etc.

I didn't say anything about medical research.

You said that Animals and humans don't have equal "rights" which mean that it´s okay to use animal for medical research, testing, etc. I know some people see animals as medical research okay because they are animal.

Let me example:

A human get punishment for abuse an innoncent animal.
An animal put sleep for abuse an innoncent human.

Is it fair?

But since you brought it up, let me ask you something. Is it OK to do medical experimentation on humans?

Yes there´re people who are volunteer to do medical experimentation.

People can care about animals and treat them kindly without believing they are equal to their human family. I loved my cats and dogs but they were never as important as my daughter or grandchildren. I would never, never compare my two grandsons to animals, and I would never, never put the welfare of an animal above the welfare of my grandsons.

I educate my children to show their respect on animals and treat them as our own family. I love my children and animals as the same my children love us and animals.

Of course I know about vaccinations; but if you want to respond to my original post, then please quote it accurately and not change the context of the comparison. It makes no sense if you change the salient points.

You use the name "rabis" which you know that rabis doesn´t for human but animal. I only said vaccination in general way without name which shot, the human and animal needs because vaccination are for human and animal, period.

I thought you treated your cats and kids equally? They don't eat the same foods? Why not?

Again, I never said about foods but treat my children and animal equally because I love them. It doesn´t mean that I treat them different because they eat different foods. :roll:

I did NOT write that human meat is in pet food.

"Your children don't eat meat do they? If animals and people are equal, I guess that would be cannibalism."

cannibalism? *scratch my head* I give up... :roll:

You say people and animals are equal.

I said that I treat people and animals equal.

That means, your kids and the cows that are used for hamburger meat are equal, right?

Sorry I do not understand your post... I only said human and animal in general way, not cow and my kids.

So, if your kids eat a hamburger, it's like they're eating the meat of an equal being; that's like cannibalism. (Apologies to Soylent Green.)

Since you brought it up, then I guess it would be equally OK to use human meat in dog food, right? That is, everyone is equal, right? Everyone is potential protein for the food chain.

No, you are the one who brought the subject about cannibalism up in first place.

But if you, your kids, and your cats are vegitarians, that is ethical because no one in your family eats any animal or human meat.

wow... I really has no idea that you keep on talk about cannibalism... wow... Perhap your experiences is different as mine...

 

[Liebling:-)))]

But it's OK for other people to respond. This is not Liebling and Reba on "The View". Other people are reading our posts, and have opinions, too. It doesn't bother me as long as they keep it clean.

I have no problem to have anyone to quote to agree or disagree with us when they come between us but not jump to defend to against others to tell me to do... this is a difference.

Is her post clean? Where is her opinion ? Nope, but tell me off.. .this is a difference. :roll:

She did not say there was any human meat in pet foods...dont be such an silly child!! and dont treat her like she is an imbecile, good grief!

 

[Mistyrose]

Look Liebling, Im just getting even with you cuz
you have called me "childish and inmature" in other
threads, remember? so now were even.
Now i think its time we need to stop calling each
other names/bashing/criticising/etc., dont you
think so?
After all it is so absurd and im so sick and tired of it.
PEACE OUT, OK?