Do you Think a Condo Association has the Rights to Throw Away Clothes Left In Washing

jillio said:
I want one that wil clean it's own litter box!:giggle:
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If you ever watched that show. "Meet the Fockers" Where the cat is trained to used the toilet. AWESOME. :)
 
Dixie said:
Assuming that a bed is the same thickness no matter how you turn it. Instead of carrying it flat through the doorway, you flip it to your right 90 degrees and presto, it fits! Most beds are longer than they are wide. I seriously doubt a bed would be 6 and a half to 7 feet wide. We have 7 foot doorways, we were able to get all of our beds moved into their proper rooms with no trouble at all when we moved here in 1996.
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Would you want a bedroom that had NO windows??? There was only one closet
in the place. it was great place to just use a stop over it you traveled a lot
and could afford to pay for all the expenses! I did not like this apartment, maybe you would buy a place you hated , not me!! The realtor did not even try to talk me into buying the place, she was shocked by place was laid out!
 
rockin'robin said:
Believe WDYS said that she "had" owned 4 houses, not owning them now. Anyhow,, I could not live in a 780 sq. ft. condo, would be "squashed" to death. Would have to be over 1500 sq. ft., even that is considered small by today's standards. Mine now is over 2,000 sq. ft. and we are packed in here (since I have the boys).....But living by myself, even then I would like a place over 1500 sq. ft.

All in all, she is just "too fussy" about anything, IMHO.
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Do you know that I have very poor balance and if I do move need a condo that I can park my car close to the house. wow you're not too bright! I had said a few times I OWN my condo that I live in RIGHT NOW!! And I said my condo was 812 sq feet. I do not need a lot of room 812 sq feet is fine for me, it cost more money to heat a bigger place and it take more energy too! I think about these things when looking for home! And I care about our land and the bigger the condo the more land was taken from wildlife! If anyone is fussy it is YOU as you want a bigger place for yourself!! We are losing a lot of open land in my city because of people like you wanting more room than you really need! And that is not fair to the earth!
 
I spoke to a lawyer friend a few moments ago. He said it's legal IF (big IF) the condo association followed all the rules and procedures that were set up in its covenant, and due notice was made.

He also said that even if the association didn't follow all the procedures to a T, if a resident brought the case to court, a judge would most likely throw it out, and chew out the person for wasting his time.

His advice is for the residents to be more responsible about taking care of their own laundry.
 
Reba said:
I spoke to a lawyer friend a few moments ago. He said it's legal IF (big IF) the condo association followed all the rules and procedures that were set up in its covenant, and due notice was made.

He also said that even if the association didn't follow all the procedures to a T, if a resident brought the case to court, a judge would most likely throw it out, and chew out the person for wasting his time.

His advice is for the residents to be more responsible about taking care of their own laundry.
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The key words here - BIG "IF" , and DUE NOTICE though.
Due notice means you should receive enough time in advance to have plenty of time to come and collect your left over laundry,
min 24hrs up to 3 days IMO.
Then there is the question of making sure you were notified IN PERSON, because what if you were away and wasn't even aware of the time restriction?

Usually no one can throw out someone else private property without a valid reason.
And throwing out other people's overdue laundry without a really unreasonable (excessive) time having passed, is not a valid reason IMO but,
again I am not a lawyer, no.

As for throwing the case out of court and being "chewed on by a judge' - that's why I mentioned small claims court.
They take small cases like this - little disagreements between landlords and tenants, neighbors etc. A squabbles, really.

Lots of these on Court TV.

I'd feel constipated in a 812 sqft place.
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Easily fixed with laxatives :)
Even good ol' prune juice will do the trick.

Fuzzy
 
Reba said:
I spoke to a lawyer friend a few moments ago. He said it's legal IF (big IF) the condo association followed all the rules and procedures that were set up in its covenant, and due notice was made.

He also said that even if the association didn't follow all the procedures to a T, if a resident brought the case to court, a judge would most likely throw it out, and chew out the person for wasting his time.

His advice is for the residents to be more responsible about taking care of their own laundry.
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The bold print is what people should do to avoid their property of being removed in the first place.



Sad to see people get upset when they are being irresponsible in the first place.

SUE THEM is their answer. This is why the judge will throw it out. Because it falls on the responsiblity of the owner. Signs are posted... That is plenty of noticed. You see it before you put your clothes in the wash......



People need to learn to take responsibility for their own actions and stop blaming others for their lack of responsibilities.
 
People need to learn to take responsibility for their own actions and stop blaming others for their lack of responsibilities
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I agree with you completely.

In the midst of it all, I forgot to mention that, too -

in the first place, do NOT leave your laundry unattended,
and do NOT leave it any longer than it is required
or
there will be consequences.

End of story...

however, the other side, the landlord/management does have certain limits
to what they can or can not do, is all. they are not Gods.


Fuzzy
 
Audiofuzzy said:
The key words here - BIG "IF" , and DUE NOTICE though.
Due notice means you should receive enough time in advance to have plenty of time to come and collect your left over laundry,
min 24hrs up to 3 days IMO.
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He was referring to due notice of the rule change.

The proper procedures of the covenant have to be followed first. Then, if all that happens, and the change is properly disseminated and posted, the condo can follow thru with the new rule.

Then there is the question of making sure you were notified IN PERSON, because what if you were away and wasn't even aware of the time restriction?
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It depends on the wording of the condo coveneant.

If the people were away, how would they leave behind their laundry during that period?

Usually no one can throw out someone else private property without a valid reason.
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A condo rule can be the valid reason.

And throwing out other people's overdue laundry without a really unreasonable (excessive) time having passed, is not a valid reason IMO but,
again I am not a lawyer, no.
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You are right, you are NOT a lawyer. A lawyer told me that, if the condo association follows the covenant process, then the rule is valid.

As for throwing the case out of court and being "chewed on by a judge' - that's why I mentioned small claims court.
They take small cases like this - little disagreements between landlords and tenants, neighbors etc. A squabbles, really.

Lots of these on Court TV.
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I asked a real lawyer.
 
I asked a real lawyer.
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I believe you :)

However, your lawyer friend could have forgot about small claims, for example,
that's one.

The court TV also have real lawyers, too, and I believe their cases and passed judgments as as valid as any real life judge would be.
I am basing my observation on court TV cases and rulings.

And you yourself pointed out your friend lawyer said - "big if" :)

But I am not going to argue about that, lol

Fuzzy
 
Audiofuzzy said:
I believe you :)

However, your lawyer friend could have forgot about small claims, for example,
that's one.

The court TV also have real lawyers, too, and I believe their cases and passed judgments as as valid as any real life judge would be.
I am basing my observation on court TV cases and rulings.

And you yourself pointed out your friend lawyer said - "big if" :)

But I am not going to argue about that, lol

Fuzzy
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ssssshhhhhhh.........
 
812 sq. feet is not bad size but it depends on different designs of Whatdidyousay's condo unit and the owners' condo units. She says one closet in her condo unit while my friend has 4 closets in her 780 sq.ft condo unit. If I am reading the OP's message right. :dunno:
 
I do not know much about condo governance never having owned one. But, I was under the impression that the Homeowners Association was the owners of the individual units and that they picked the managing board. If that is correct, couldn't these rules be changed, at least in the long run, by voting in board members that more unit owners favored?
 
jillio said:
I want one that wil clean it's own litter box!:giggle:
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That's why I got a dog. They whine to go outside.

Of course, when a family friend used to empty her litterbox in the bathroom down the toilet... I felt stupid. It wouldn't work with a ferret anyway.
 
Audiofuzzy said:
I believe you :)

However, your lawyer friend could have forgot about small claims, for example,
that's one.
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No, he didn't forget. :roll:

Even in small claims court you have to deal with reality.

The court TV also have real lawyers, too, and I believe their cases and passed judgments as as valid as any real life judge would be.
I am basing my observation on court TV cases and rulings.
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Actually, the parties on TV, and in small claims, aren't usually represented by lawyers.

The participants on TV sign agreements before their cases are heard by the judge, that allows certain concessions that wouldn't be found in real life courts.

And you yourself pointed out your friend lawyer said - "big if" :)
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Yes. He said that IF the condo association followed the procedures of their covenant. Since he hasn't seen a copy of their covenant, he can't say whether or not they followed association rules. No one can say without seeing a copy of the covenant.

But I am not going to argue about that, lol
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Jane B. said:
I do not know much about condo governance never having owned one. But, I was under the impression that the Homeowners Association was the owners of the individual units and that they picked the managing board. If that is correct, couldn't these rules be changed, at least in the long run, by voting in board members that more unit owners favored?
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Usually board members can't by themselves change the rules. It normally requires a vote by all the owners, and depending on the covenants, a certain percentage for passage.

The board members are usually there to enforce the rules, not make up new ones, unless that's how their covenants are set up.
 
Babyblue said:
If you ever watched that show. "Meet the Fockers" Where the cat is trained to used the toilet. AWESOME. :)
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Yeah, that is a funny movie! All my cat wants to do is drink out of the toilet bowl. Thanks to AlleyCat for teaching me how to solve that problem!
 
:lol:I remember that movie. one of my favorites, and my folks too.

my folks are now looking at condos to move into and one of the things they're using to decide is the what the Condo Assoc. and the rulebook is like.
 
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