Combat G.I. Jane

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Reba said:
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Women are have been and is already in service and in harms way according to the article. Haven't heard any media blow ups that females getting raped and coming home pregnant.
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Then you haven't been reading the right sources.

Military people know this. They read Navy Times and Army Times.

As a woman veteran, I also get special mailings from the VA specifically for women veterans. They are trying to track these problems. We women get sent special surveys about our service to fill out and send to the VA, too.

The general media doesn't want to make a blow up about this problem. Just saying....
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I have several family members in all areas of the military. They lead me to the same sites you read. Yet, I have not read where there is any issues on female soldiers getting pregnant from rape. Sexual harrassment claims been made..yes. Been going on. But as for people who worry about female soldiers getting raped and pregnant as a result. Know this, it will be the least of her worries. All soldiers inlist knowing the risk of harm or death.
 
(BTW, it's "enlist" not "inlist".)
 
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TXgolfer said:
Reba said:
If the services truly don't lower the requirements or soften the training for them, I can see that. However, if they modify the requirements or training, that's asking for trouble. It's happened before, such as with fire fighters and the police.

I don't know how it is now but when I was in the Navy, the PRT (physical readiness training) requirements were different for men and women. Also, not to be harsh, and judging by appearance only, it would seem that the weight requirements for women aren't as strict as they used to be, so I'm wondering about the other physical requirements.
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Another problem with this type of testing is that it is short term. No way to test the effects of six months of combat.
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If it doesn't work out, they can alway do what they do to males that can not deal with it. Discharge them.
 
Reba said:
If the services truly don't lower the requirements or soften the training for them, I can see that. However, if they modify the requirements or training, that's asking for trouble. It's happened before, such as with fire fighters and the police.

I don't know how it is now but when I was in the Navy, the PRT (physical readiness training) requirements were different for men and women. Also, not to be harsh, and judging by appearance only, it would seem that the weight requirements for women aren't as strict as they used to be, so I'm wondering about the other physical requirements.
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The training should be the same, but the expectations should be different, a woman can't carry as much, etc.
 
Babyblue said:
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Men come home with lifetime injuries and requires lifetime medical care that cost more than raising a child. I highly doubt it will happen often. If it does become a concern the military can offer contraceptives to female soldiers. Abortion as well is another choice. Not many rape victims carry a child to term.
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You are talking mandatory abortion which is not a choice. I doubt the enemy will let a woman POW take contraception. I'm sure they have their own version of it. Contraception during regular service is a good point, but even then not all women can take it.

As far as if a deaf should serve, I'm of the same position, how they serve should fit the condition. A radio operator might not be the best choice. However, a sniper might be a good choice.

I think there is a place for everyone in the military.
 
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VacationGuy234 said:
Babyblue said:
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Men come home with lifetime injuries and requires lifetime medical care that cost more than raising a child. I highly doubt it will happen often. If it does become a concern the military can offer contraceptives to female soldiers. Abortion as well is another choice. Not many rape victims carry a child to term.
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You are talking mandatory abortion which is not a choice. I doubt the enemy will let a woman POW take contraception. I'm sure they have their own version of it. Contraception during regular service is a good point, but even then not all women can take it.

As far as if a deaf should serve, I'm of the same position, how they serve should fit the condition. A radio operator might not be the best choice. However, a sniper might be a good choice.

I think there is a place for everyone in the military.
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Mandatory abortion is not what I said. I am speaking about women in service that are not POW they have a choice. Not all are raped by the enemy. As for the one that are POW they will not have a choice. But they made a choice to Enlist knowing this risk of combat and war.
 
VacationGuy234 said:
The training should be the same, but the expectations should be different, a woman can't carry as much, etc.
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That's right. Have you seen the equipment they have to wear and carry? In addition, they have to be able to carry an injured comrade (200+lbs) out of danger.

There are some women who can do that but not many. There are some men who can't do that either. That's why we have physical fitness testing.
 
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Reba said:
VacationGuy234 said:
The training should be the same, but the expectations should be different, a woman can't carry as much, etc.
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That's right. Have you seen the equipment they have to wear and carry? In addition, they have to be able to carry an injured comrade (200+lbs) out of danger.

There are some women who can do that but not many. There are some men who can't do that either. That's why we have physical fitness testing.
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How many women do you think will really be up to this, and pass a physical fitness test?
 
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Jiro said:
VacationGuy234 said:
If the test is fair, all of them in the regular forces and some of them in the Marines or Special Operations.
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fair? how do you make it fair? by lowering the standard?
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Agree. What do you mean by fair? Equal testing for men and women or Giving a test that has been set for females?
 
CrazyPaul said:
IMO, alot of women could get scared once they see real war and want to go home immediately. War is hell! Depending on how tough they are.
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lets hope the men are brave enough to follow her...now that take guts...i be one woman running the hardest home
 
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