Combat G.I. Jane

[Reba]

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Men get captured as POW as well. Some are sexually assault in one way or another. It is not just women.

But they can't get pregnant as a result.

 

[Babyblue]

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My opinion on this is the same as my opinion on gays in the military.

These decisions should not be made in Washington D.C. or by the Courts.

I personally would not inlist. But who are we to say they can not try. What is your opionion on Deaf people inlisting for combat?

 

[caz12]

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Men get captured as POW as well. Some are sexually assault in one way or another. It is not just women.

he not got a vagina,her chance of rape higher..she also of less value as human being as male soldier

 

[CrazyPaul]

if female soldier raped by enermy then chance are she prisnor and watching how taliban treat their own women then american woman who killed other taliban wll be treated less than human....chance of her getting raped same way as that poor indian woman very high..so pregnancy would be lest of her problems

Yeah, a woman has to think twice before volunteering. That's her decision to make.

 

[Reba]

Why not? A woman can volunteer to join but she must pass the training or she will be sent back home like many other volunteers.

If the services truly don't lower the requirements or soften the training for them, I can see that. However, if they modify the requirements or training, that's asking for trouble. It's happened before, such as with fire fighters and the police.

I don't know how it is now but when I was in the Navy, the PRT (physical readiness training) requirements were different for men and women. Also, not to be harsh, and judging by appearance only, it would seem that the weight requirements for women aren't as strict as they used to be, so I'm wondering about the other physical requirements.

 

[Babyblue]

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Men get captured as POW as well. Some are sexually assault in one way or another. It is not just women.

But they can't get pregnant as a result.

Men come home with lifetime injuries and requires lifetime medical care that cost more than raising a child. I highly doubt it will happen often. If it does become a concern the military can offer contraceptives to female soldiers. Abortion as well is another choice. Not many rape victims carry a child to term.

 

[Jiro]

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If the woman is raped then I am sure the military will take proper actions agaisnt the male who did it. If it is one of our own soldier that does it then he is no soldier at all and the apprpriate actions will be taken.

sadly enough... many rape reports get squashed away.

 

[Reba]

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If the woman is raped then I am sure the military will take proper actions agaisnt the male who did it. If it is one of our own soldier that does it then he is no soldier at all and the apprpriate actions will be taken.

Right now the armed services have a problem with rape and sexual harrassment within the ranks. They are pursuing this, and there have been many courts martial resulting. Those who looked the other way have been demoted and relieved of command. However, there is much that doesn't get reported, and much abuse of seniority power over junior members.

 

[CrazyPaul]

sadly enough... many rape reports get squashed away.

No, I don't think that the military court let the accused get away with it.

 

[Babyblue]

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If the woman is raped then I am sure the military will take proper actions agaisnt the male who did it. If it is one of our own soldier that does it then he is no soldier at all and the apprpriate actions will be taken.

Right now the armed services have a problem with rape and sexual harrassment within the ranks. They are pursuing this, and there have been many courts martial resulting. Those who looked the other way have been demoted and relieved of command. However, there is much that doesn't get reported, and much abuse of seniority power over junior members.

Have children resulted in these?

 

[caz12]

Yeah, a woman has to think twice before volunteering. That's her decision to make.

it is her decision and her comrades got live or die by that....maybe women should run in same athletic race with men..just occasionally and this is one, the woman should not be on frontline.

 

[Reba]

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Men come home with lifetime injuries and requires lifetime medical care that cost more than raising a child. I highly doubt it will happen often. If it does become a concern the military can offer contraceptives to female soldiers. Abortion as well is another choice. Not many rape victims carry a child to term.

The military and VA do NOT provide enough medical care, therapy, or support for long-term disabilities. A lot of the slack is taken up by organizations such as Wounded Warriors, DVA, PVA, etc, family and friends. I doubt that raising a child would come under the category of "permanent disability."

Contraceptives may not always be available or reliable out in the field, and certainly abortions wouldn't be available to POW's in captivity. Of course, as a prisoner, one might expect infanticide to be an option for the enemy.

 

[Babyblue]

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Women are have been and is already in service and in harms way according to the article. Haven't heard any media blow ups that females getting raped and coming home pregnant.

 

[TXgolfer]

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I personally would not inlist. But who are we to say they can not try. What is your opionion on Deaf people inlisting for combat?

The same. That decision should not be made in Washington or the courts.

 

[CrazyPaul]

it is her decision and her comrades got live or die by that....maybe women should run in same athletic race with men..just occasionally and this is one, the woman should not be on frontline.

IMO, alot of women could get scared once they see real war and want to go home immediately. War is hell! Depending on how tough they are.

 

[Reba]

I'm not sure I am for this at least not as a front line, infantry activity.

Women could be assaulted and bring new life into the world. I'm curious, if women are raped in combat who would pay for the child support? Extra veteran benefits? You can't just not support the child.

Regardless of the circumstances of the pregnancy, an active duty woman can claim the child as a dependent. That would qualify them for financial and medical benefits, just like any other dependent. However, it would be based on the mother's status, not the father's. If the father is also active duty, then his pay would be directly attached for the child support, at least at the amount that would come under the dependent's portion of his pay.

I wonder how other nations if they have women in combat have addressed these issues.

Check it out. You might be surprised.

Also, there are some cultures who view women in combat roles as a sign of weakness. They believe that nations that depend on their women to fight don't have enough able-bodied capable men of doing the job.

 

[Jiro]

No, I don't think that the military court let the accused get away with it.

you might want to double-check on your "fact". unlike you... I don't make statements or rebut without supporting facts. do you not even know that most rapes in America are unreported?

it's not the military court that let the accused get away. it's the higher-ups that shooed it away. very few rape cases have actually made it to military court.

sometimes I really wonder how is it that you're totally unaware of these kind of news when it's been on front page for quite a while.

Why rapists in military get away with it - CNN.com
Leon Panetta: Military's Handling Of Rape Is 'An Outrage'
Rape in the military: exposing the shocking truth | Life and style | The Guardian

 

[Reba]

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Women are have been and is already in service and in harms way according to the article. Haven't heard any media blow ups that females getting raped and coming home pregnant.

Then you haven't been reading the right sources.

Military people know this. They read Navy Times and Army Times.

As a woman veteran, I also get special mailings from the VA specifically for women veterans. They are trying to track these problems. We women get sent special surveys about our service to fill out and send to the VA, too.

The general media doesn't want to make a blow up about this problem. Just saying....

 

[CrazyPaul]

you might want to double-check on your "fact". unlike you... I don't make statements or rebut without supporting facts. do you not even know that most rapes in America are unreported?

it's not the military court that let the accused get away. it's the higher-ups that shooed it away. very few rape cases have actually made it to military court.

sometimes I really wonder how is it that you're totally unaware of these kind of news when it's been on front page for quite a while.

Why rapists in military get away with it - CNN.com
Leon Panetta: Military's Handling Of Rape Is 'An Outrage'
Rape in the military: exposing the shocking truth | Life and style | The Guardian

Oh, that's bad but I predict that it will change very soon.

 

[TXgolfer]

If the services truly don't lower the requirements or soften the training for them, I can see that. However, if they modify the requirements or training, that's asking for trouble. It's happened before, such as with fire fighters and the police.

I don't know how it is now but when I was in the Navy, the PRT (physical readiness training) requirements were different for men and women. Also, not to be harsh, and judging by appearance only, it would seem that the weight requirements for women aren't as strict as they used to be, so I'm wondering about the other physical requirements.

Another problem with this type of testing is that it is short term. No way to test the effects of six months of combat.