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144,000 must be according to Book of Revelation. This is not meant just about true religion and that amount who will go to Heaven this talked about 12 tribes with each number of the 12 tribes, there will be 144000 people in the position of ruling, not count of how many people go to Heaven. In Isaiah, Revelation and other Books by saying, there will be multitude many as a sand, meant couldn't count will go and singing and praising the Lord GodAlmighty and giving honor and praise Jesus Christ for what He has done for us. And about down low christian men, whatever whoever put wrong perspective about christian men. Carnal christian men is those who go to church and just listening the preacher and go living everyday life doing things instead of earnest to worship God in Spirit in daily life will have down low life. Mature christian men go to church and listening the sermon and have life application and worship God in daily lives and meditate the Word of God and deal with their own mistaks and thru failures, they keep strive toward the goal is not down low. Spiritual christian men respond differently than carnal christian men, both face hardship life, but responding differently.
 
hottiedeafboi said:
144,000 must be according to Book of Revelation. This is not meant just about true religion and that amount who will go to Heaven this talked about 12 tribes with each number of the 12 tribes, there will be 144000 people in the position of ruling, not count of how many people go to Heaven. In Isaiah, Revelation and other Books by saying, there will be multitude many as a sand, meant couldn't count will go and singing and praising the Lord GodAlmighty and giving honor and praise Jesus Christ for what He has done for us. And about down low christian men, whatever whoever put wrong perspective about christian men. Carnal christian men is those who go to church and just listening the preacher and go living everyday life doing things instead of earnest to worship God in Spirit in daily life will have down low life. Mature christian men go to church and listening the sermon and have life application and worship God in daily lives and meditate the Word of God and deal with their own mistaks and thru failures, they keep strive toward the goal is not down low. Spiritual christian men respond differently than carnal christian men, both face hardship life, but responding differently.
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This is Jehovah Witness teaching . . . it's not Biblical. Keep the text in context, dear.
 
Reba said:
Did it ever occur to you that most people go to church to worship God and fellowship with other Christians? Then, they go home and live good lives without "beating, scamming, cheating, stealing, killing, etc."
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I didn't say all were. Please read my posts more carefully.

Reba said:
I'm not saying that there are some "fake" Christians attending churches. During my experiences over the years, with hundreds of Christians, I have met very few of those fakers.
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Many fakers are two-faced. You wouldn't know them if you didn't live with them. My fiancee's mom is one example--everybody thinks she is such a good Christian, then she accidentally exposed her abusive side and then tried calling the cops on me so I wouldn't tell anyone. BUT AGAIN I am not saying all are.
Reba said:
Remember, not everyone who uses the name "Christian" truly is one.

I'm sorry that you have had such negative experiences.
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I just said that.
 
pek1 said:
This is Jehovah Witness teaching . . . it's not Biblical. Keep the text in context, dear.
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I'm not sure what u are saying. Yes, I know about jehovah witness teaches about 144000 people go. But it is in Revelation, but misinterpret what 144000 people in the tribes meaning. If that waht u are saying or you didn't know its in there or what.
 
Reba said:
And where did you get that "fact"? If they supposedly are doing this secretly, how did you get the information?
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We see that on the news and in the newspaper where grown up men (formerly as choir boys / altar boys) finally claimed that they were molested by priests/ pastors/ etc...
Just a thought.. I find it interesting.. I haven't heard or read anything about grown-up women claiming that they were molested by nuns/ sisters . :dunno:
 
EyesBlueDeaf said:
We see that on the news and in the newspaper where grown up men (formerly as choir boys / altar boys) finally claimed that they were molested by priests/ pastors/ etc...
Just a thought.. I find it interesting.. I haven't heard or read anything about grown-up women claiming that they were molested by nuns/ sisters . :dunno:
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That doesn't answer my question.

How do you justify this statement that you made?

"MOST Christian men are men on the 'down-low' !!"

I don't think you can. I think you just throw out outrageous statements and count on most readers accepting it as true. Sadly, too many people do accept slanderous statements without requiring proof.

BTW, there have been claims against nuns by girls.

http://alldeaf.com/showpost.php?p=441610&postcount=1

http://alldeaf.com/showpost.php?p=441827&postcount=3

http://alldeaf.com/showpost.php?p=441828&postcount=4
 
Reba said:
That doesn't answer my question.

How do you justify this statement that you made?

"MOST Christian men are men on the 'down-low' !!"

I don't think you can. I think you just throw out outrageous statements and count on most readers accepting it as true. Sadly, too many people do accept slanderous statements without requiring proof.

BTW, there have been claims against nuns by girls.

http://alldeaf.com/showpost.php?p=441610&postcount=1

http://alldeaf.com/showpost.php?p=441827&postcount=3

http://alldeaf.com/showpost.php?p=441828&postcount=4
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Are you really that naive?? You know it is true! We all do. You really think Christian people will stand up in their church and admit it?? Of course not. You can ask any gay prostitutes and they surely will tell you.
 
Just simple question:

Is the word "marriage" come from the Bible or what?

Is the "marriage" for man and woman who create the family?

I know the Bible says against same sex marriage but what about childless married couple? What the bible says about them?


To me:

I marry for love, not for create the family.

I accept what everyone are and have my bless, no matter what.
 
EyesBlueDeaf said:
Are you really that naive??
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No. I'm a reasonable person who doesn't make wild, unsubstantiated statements.


You know it is true!
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No, I don't. You don't either. Your statement was the first time I had seen that accusation. I knew the definition of "down-low" but I have never heard or read that accusation made against "most" Christian men.


We all do.
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"We"? Who are "We"? No one that I know. Please don't include me in your group of bigoted ranters.


You really think Christian people will stand up in their church and admit it?? Of course not.
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If that's the case, then were do you get your "facts" from? Where do you get your statistics (which I haven't seen you prove yet)?


You can ask any gay prostitutes and they surely will tell you.
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:rofl: Right! :rofl: Very reliable sources, like I want to go talk to them! :rofl:

Are you an aspiring comedienne? :D
 
EyesBlueDeaf said:
Are you really that naive?? You know it is true! We all do. You really think Christian people will stand up in their church and admit it?? Of course not. You can ask any gay prostitutes and they surely will tell you.
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:laugh2: You are SO right, EyesBlueDeaf.

Anyone who thinks a fake Christian will admit it in church is naive.
 
Reba said:
I think you just throw out outrageous statements and count on most readers accepting it as true. Sadly, too many people do accept slanderous statements without requiring proof.
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You do it all the time.
 
Liebling:-))) said:
Just simple question:

Is the word "marriage" come from the Bible or what?

Is the "marriage" for man and woman who create the family?
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Yes, marriage is for a man and a woman.

God made Woman specifically as a perfectly fitting mate for Man. God created all the other creatures "out of the ground" but God built Woman from Man's body to show the completeness of the two bodies together.

Genesis 2
18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. 19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof. 20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.

21 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; 22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. 23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. 24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. 25 And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.


I know the Bible says against same sex marriage but what about childless married couple? What the bible says about them?
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In general, couples in the Bible were very disappointed if they didn't have children, and God encouraged married couples to have children.

The Bible mentions many couples who had problems bearing children; it mentions many women who were either "barren" or became pregnant late in life.

There was more emphasis on barreness and child bearing in the OT than the NT.

Do you have a more specific question about childless couples?

I can give you more specific verses if you do have specific questions. :)
 
gnulinuxman said:
You do it all the time.
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No, I don't. I back up my statements, and I provide links so people can check them out for themselves. In fact, I would say more people complain about my long quotations and lists of links than otherwise. I'm probably the most annoying link-meister. :D
 
gnulinuxman said:
:laugh2: You are SO right, EyesBlueDeaf.

Anyone who thinks a fake Christian will admit it in church is naive.
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So if no one is "admitting" this behavior, where do you get your "MOST" Christians data?
 
Liebling:-))) said:
...Is the word "marriage" come from the Bible or what?
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Some New Testament references to "marriage":

Matthew 22

Matthew 25:10
And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.

Hebrews 13:4
Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.

Revelation 19
7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. 8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints. 9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.
 
Reba said:
Yes, marriage is for a man and a woman.

God made Woman specifically as a perfectly fitting mate for Man. God created all the other creatures "out of the ground" but God built Woman from Man's body to show the completeness of the two bodies together.

Genesis 2
18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. 19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof. 20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.

21 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; 22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. 23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. 24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. 25 And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.
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Yes, I know that the bible says that marriage is for a man and a woman. You said the same as what JW´s bible says.


In general, couples in the Bible were very disappointed if they didn't have children, and God encouraged married couples to have children.
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1. They have no reason to create the children that´s because they are married. They don´t have to if they don´t want to have one. I :applause: them for that because they think TWICE before start the family and decide that they are not right parents... If they "must" to have children then they will make their children unhappy which unfair because the children doesn´t deserve to have unloving parents.

2. I can see that the bibles says that couple married for family but for me no. I marry for love. Is it selfish?

3. I can´t see anything wrong if they rather to wait long years before start family. Is it selfish?

4. The couple don´t want to start family yet until they feel ready.. Look at me, we don´t want to start family yet until 7 years later then we start family. Do we have to start family straight way after married? I noticed that many ends in divorce because of this. Enjoy your life and also with your partner first before start family. Is it selfish?

5. They are upset for want to have baby because it doesn´t work on them. It´s doctor who helps them to make baby.

The Bible mentions many couples who had problems bearing children; it mentions many women who were either "barren" or became pregnant late in life.
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Yes, I noticed that many mothers become pregnant at late age because they want to enjoy their life first then...

There was more emphasis on barreness and child bearing in the OT than the NT.
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What´s is OT and NT?

Do you have a more specific question about childless couples?

I can give you more specific verses if you do have specific questions. :)
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You already answer my question... :) I response your post and ask you 5 questions about childless married couple.

I noticed alot of people ends in divorce because they start family too fast without think twice...

What do you think of this?

 
Reba said:
No, I don't. I back up my statements, and I provide links so people can check them out for themselves. In fact, I would say more people complain about my long quotations and lists of links than otherwise. I'm probably the most annoying link-meister. :D
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If the Bible were as perfect as you say it is, the Earth would only be around 6,000 years old and rapists would be required to marry their victims.
 
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