Arkansas School to arm teachers

 
jonnyghost said:
How would you know if it was CCW.
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from my parent and they told my old school was fully gun free zone.

I believe that school districts may make decision to allow armed teachers or not.
 
Foxrac said:
That's rare, also it wasn't in city school that where I grew up.

I could ask principal if their school have armed teachers or not.
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There was an armed assistant principal in Mississippi that stopped a mass school shooting.
 
Steinhauer said:
I am right there with you. The posters claiming they would not send their child to a school with armed teachers ....don't have children.

The reason these mass shootings result in such a high number of casualties is because no one is armed to fight back. I would rather have a gun than hide in a closet unarmed.
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There are many parents don't want armed teachers in school, including my parent as well.
 
Foxrac said:
Well, the school contain children and it is one of most sensitive area - it means police officers are highly trained that specifically for school.
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We have police at schools around me. You'd probably be shocked at their lack of training. Requirements are pretty low and most of them are not great shooters.

"King County police officers can shoot straight;"

"57 percent of the first 150 officers tested failed"

"To qualify, an officer must hit 60 shots with no misses at a paper target shaped like a person from the waist up, with shots fired at distances of five, seven, 10, 15 and 25 yards. Some shots must be fired with the non-dominant hand."

Local News | New Shooting Test Puts Police Under The Gun -- Fewer County Officers Succeed On First Shot | Seattle Times Newspaper

25 yards max on the range and 57 percent miss the target!!
 
Steinhauer said:
There was an armed assistant principal in Mississippi that stopped a mass school shooting.
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The school shooting cases are different, some cases are easy to handle and some cases are too complicated to handle.

Newtown case was complicated so have armed teachers will not make any better outcome.

I don't support armed teachers in school. :dunno:
 
jonnyghost said:
We have police at schools around me. You'd probably be shocked at their lack of training. Requirements are pretty low and most of them are not great shooters.

"King County police officers can shoot straight;"

"57 percent of the first 150 officers tested failed"

"To qualify, an officer must hit 60 shots with no misses at a paper target shaped like a person from the waist up, with shots fired at distances of five, seven, 10, 15 and 25 yards. Some shots must be fired with the non-dominant hand."

Local News | New Shooting Test Puts Police Under The Gun -- Fewer County Officers Succeed On First Shot | Seattle Times Newspaper

25 yards max on the range and 57 percent miss the target!!
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Oh wow, those training need to be tighten, but I think after Newtown case, it may be happening.
 
Foxrac said:
The school shooting cases are different, some cases are easy to handle and some cases are too complicated to handle.

Newtown case was complicated so have armed teachers will not make any better outcome.
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Why? I've been posting tons of people that made a difference in real life situation very similar. Why was Newtown different?

Foxrac said:
I don't support armed teachers in school. :dunno:
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I respect your opinion and your choice but this affect everybody. For that I need real supporting evidence.
 
Foxrac said:
Oh wow, those training need to be tighten, but I think after Newtown case, it may be happening.
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Yea, I should have looked at the date on that article. I'm sure I can come up with something more recent.
 
jonnyghost said:
Why? I've been posting tons of people that made a difference in real life situation very similar. Why was Newtown different?

I respect your opinion and your choice but this affect everybody. For that I need real supporting evidence.
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Your claim isn't warranted enough to connivence me to accept that armed teachers are good idea because school shooting cases are different. It means you have to deal in different ways.

Yes, in Newtown case, there were many children involved so make more complicated and there not much expectation to stop the perpetrator.

The gun isn't part of teacher's job.
 
30 APD officers fail firearms exam in last year

"Glazier said the test now has two targets. " OMG! NOT 2 TARGETS! :eek3:
30 APD officers fail firearms exam in last year - Atlanta News, Weather, Traffic, and Sports | FOX 5


UNSAFE AT ANY DISTANCE - THE FAILURE OF POLICE HANDGUN TRAINING

"The average hit rate for NYPD Officers involved in a gunfight between 1998 and 2006 was 18 percent. For every five shots, four bullets missed the intended target and went somewhere else."
AIMED Point Shooting or P&S

Some others

pistol-training.com » Blog Archive » Police Quals

Seven of 11 police recruits in Gary fail firearms test [Archive] - Police Forums & Law Enforcement Forums @ Officer.com
 
Foxrac said:
Your claim isn't warranted enough to connivence me to accept that armed teachers are good idea because school shooting cases are different. It means you have to deal in different ways.

Yes, in Newtown case, there were many children involved so make more complicated and there not much expectation to stop the perpetrator.

The gun isn't part of teacher's job.
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There where lots of people around in all the cases I've mentioned. Public crowded places, schools even.
 
Foxrac said:
That's rare, also it wasn't in city school that where I grew up.

I could ask principal if their school have armed teachers or not.
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If they are carrying concealed, there is no way to know unless they use a scanner at the doors.
 
Foxrac said:
from my parent and they told my old school was fully gun free zone.

I believe that school districts may make decision to allow armed teachers or not.
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Well, I guess if some nut decides to shoot up a school he'll know which one to pick.
 
Foxrac said:
There are many parents don't want armed teachers in school, including my parent as well.
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That may be true but if it's school policy then they'll have to form their own gun-free "target-for-crazies" school.
 
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