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I'm not being deliberately dense. All *which* stats combined? The only inferences I've found regarding the use of guns for protection are here, 13 studies: GunCite: Frequency of Defensive Gun Use in Previous Surveys The lowest number from the 13 studies is 764,036 uses of a gun for...

Nowhere in the CDC stats do they show how many times a gun owner used a gun for protection.

Thanks for responding, even though it's off the original topic : ) I consider this information extremely important as I have guns and would like to make logical decisions about them. Regarding the number of children accidentally killed by guns, it's about 1/4 of the number of adults, so...

I will totally concede that (and therefore take it into account with my own decisions regarding guns) if you will only, only point me at the stats regarding the number of times guns were used to protect someone. I can't imagine how those stats could possibly have been gathered, but that's not...

Yep, firearms are #9. 98 kids died accidentally from firearms in 2008. That's awful, times 98. Put into perspective, #1 is MVA, with 2829 accidental deaths. Which is why I'm 28 times more worried about my children in a car.

Wow. Well, I just rechecked the entire thread, in case I had missed or misread your post with statistics that show the number of times gun owners use a gun to protect themselves. It's not there. I've read the CDC statistics. Also not there. I'm sorry if I'm bothering you by asking you to...

Ah man, nobody told me there'd be homework! :giggle: But those numbers don't really tell me how many times gun owners use their weapons to protect themselves, either by displaying it and frightening off an attacker, shooting at an attacker and missing but still frightening off the attacker...

I see what you're saying, and I agree. But Jillio made the statement that gun owners are many times more likely to kill someone accidentally than to use their gun to protect themselves. I'd just like to see *something* that validates that statement. Just knowing the number of accidental...

I wish there was a "love" button instead of just a "like" one. That video is awesome, thanks for posting it!!

I definitely like yours better than the current punishments, Dixie. As far as I'm concerned, drunk driving is attempted murder. Just about everybody knows what can happen if you choose to drive drunk and those who don't shouldn't have the right to drive period. I had a friend who was...

Not in this thread, you haven't. :cool2: I've been looking for them. You've made the claim repeatedly, but not once have you actually supported it with statistics. I'm fairly open-minded and willing to change my opinions IF someone can show me facts (just saying something does NOT make it...

Could you provide a link or identify the stats or studies that support this statement? I don't know you, but I'm assuming you researched it prior to reaching this conclusion and I'd be interested in seeing the data you're basing it on. *I ask because I do know people who have needed to use...

STILL not true. It may be a common tactic, but repeating a false statement doesn't change it to a true one.

Ditto that. Hopefully he uses it to teach other people.

I'm sure he felt horrible, but the thing is, it was an easily preventable accident. Rule #1 is "All guns are loaded." When we clean ours it's almost silly how many times we check, like a ghost might have slipped up and chambered a round when we blinked.

I lived in SC for a little while. When I asked about it, our local LEOs informed me they'd be happy to remove the intruder's body and try not to bother me too much in the process...

That's seriously awful. I think criminal negligence is too lenient.

I agree with most of what you said. Two points though: Not all CCW carrying people want to be rambos. That's just insulting. And martial arts is only effective in close quarters. I've participated in exercises that show it's *possible* to disarm a gun-carrying criminal if the distance is no...

True, they are different. I consider myself safer in my home than walking down the street. "usually a child" isn't exactly accurate, though the accidental death of any number of children is a horrible thing. The CDC numbers show it to be usually an adult (475 adults versus 138 children in...

Do you find the 40,000+ deaths caused by licensed drivers every year acceptable? I'm assuming that the amount of justifiable deaths involving vehicles is pretty damn near 0 (I figure there might be a running over of a carjacker or two in there). The death rate from motor vehicles is more than...