Here comes Spring, here comes the flu blah...

[DreamDeaf]

Even when you have a flu shot, it's for only one specific flu virus - there are many different flu viruses floating around. If you get a flu shot, and you still get sick with the flu, its probably a different strain.

The only way to prevent catching the flu is to wash your hands with hot/warm water and soap frequently, and carrying a bottle of antibacterial gel with you for those times when you can't wash your hands.

Even then - you can still get the flu anyway.

 

[moonflower]

i had to get antibodies when i had brochitis before it was so bad i wouldn't beathe and coughing so much even thou i had fever over 101 that i CAN'T have MUST have antibodies FAST
whenever i had fever and long it last i get much worse and it get higher and i had to get medical attention for that

angel need have some help like antibodies that all her brochitis had been too long and didn't go away that why she NEEDS antibodies.

 

[JeepGirl]

Liebling some bronchitises can lead to infections. I know that not everyone likes taking meds as I am one of them. However, when Angel described her symptoms to me, it sounded like she had the very same thing, I had once about 8 years ago.

When it comes down to not being able to breathe and feeling like you cant breathe, the doctor is the thing to do. I needed two courses of antibiotics to kick that 8 years ago.

And sometimes, one of the best things we can do, instead of offering advice is to offer sympathy.

While some of us may have problems with this or that, remember not every case is the same!

right and i wanted to add also..


Not all home remedy works such has hot tea with honey, lemon with honey, or herbal things.. not always work but does heal in some ways. it builds up cells and gives you a bit energy. As far as the bacterial virus or infection.. it does need to be treated. the antibiotics are to kill the bad cells not to make you feel better but to kill off the bad cells. with the bronchial problem, it does have to be treated by a dr.. theres no way in hell you can make it better all by yourself. starting with a cold develops fluids in your lungs and that causes to cough.. when the cough isn't treated, it becomes a bronchial problem. with that said.. the bronchitis can lead to pnemonia which is very very hard to heal. that situation can lead to death. so if you go this far having bronchitis, your body needs antibiotics to kill off the bad cells. but to heal your cough, cold, sinus.. it can be easily treated with home remedy. Most people do use home remedies for colds. as far as the flu.. not EVERYBODY can have the flu shot. I can't have one. for health reasons. so not everyone can have one.


what Angel is saying is that she has been miserably ill with the bronchitis and was very frustrated not being able to see her dr so she can be treated. its not a virus.. its a viral in her lungs that wouldn't heal without being treated.


Lieb.. I know you do things naturally.. that's great! You have guts to do this naturally. but there are things that need to be treated by doctors and be medicated for it. I got your point that there are side effects in medicines.. but everybody is going to die one day. with or without medicines... so what the hell... right? but I absolutely respect you and what you do with your life. its Angel speaking that she was miserably sick. no comparison here on how she feels.

 

[JeepGirl]

Even when you have a flu shot, it's for only one specific flu virus - there are many different flu viruses floating around. If you get a flu shot, and you still get sick with the flu, its probably a different strain.

The only way to prevent catching the flu is to wash your hands with hot/warm water and soap frequently, and carrying a bottle of antibacterial gel with you for those times when you can't wash your hands.

Even then - you can still get the flu anyway.

right... I've never had the flu shot.. and I had a flu once in my whole life. so I basically don't think its required for me. but Yeah.. I can get it again later in life. I agree with you that people that had the flu shot doesn't mean they're 100% safe.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

I am total speechless to see some people jump to make posts for Angel here.

I provided a SIMPLE link in general way what we should take antibiotics or not - what is antibiotic... and explain that antibiotic has nothing do to cure viruses... without make anyone to take my advice but state my own experience why I don't take antibiotic... and then have to take antibiotic UNLESS I have serious health. I can't see the sense why some of you are upset over my simple post?

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Liebling, you only took half of the line where you throught I need antibiotic for the virus cold actually it was for bronchitis. Please do not twist my words around I did not say I need antibiotic for coughing, sore throat, chills, fever etc, if you did not understand my post you could have asked me. Beside RebelGirl had a history of bronchitis and she suggest me to go to the doctor for antibiotics, since I wasn't getting any better but worse, couldn't go cause of car problems. but now I'm feeling better after 4 weeks. but still coughing.

*Total speechless*

I only pasted and pointed out "virus" in your post but I wasn't realized that you are upset and accused me for twist your word because I pasted half instead of your full post. It's very sad...

Okay, here is your post...

Originally Posted by Angel
Wow, I guess I'm not alone, I'm dealing with this horrible cough, bronchitis , sinus infection, sore throat, chills, fever etc for 3 weeks now, I haven't experiences this long-lasting virus before until now and its wearing me out as I am beginning to wonder if I'd ever feel well again ..My husband said if I don't get better by Monday, he will take me to see a doctor to get some antibiotics..

See that you made full sentence including bronchitis....virus...until end of sentence then said... My husband said..... sounds that bronchitis is one of viruses... I provided harmless link to leave you all decide what antibiotic is about because some confused infection with virus when they want to take antibiotic.

As you said that RebelGirl has history of bronchitis. It's not just her but everyone including myself as well. Each person is different who suffers form of bronchitis like what I provided the link about the form of bronchitis yesterday.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Liebling some bronchitises can lead to infections.

Yes I know... I already stated in my previous posts that some form of bronchitises lead severe serious that's why I offered my advice to Angel to check with her doctor to listen her chest/lungs.

I feel that you did not read my posts fully. I tried to convince that bronchities is not virus but infection and provided the link explain what should we take antibiotios or not.

I know that not everyone likes taking meds as I am one of them. However, when Angel described her symptoms to me, it sounded like she had the very same thing, I had once about 8 years ago.

I also had the same problem, too. I have it for a very long time... I already had it last winter 2007 - check the link, I provided toward DefMATRIXense's post. I always have it every Autumn/winter suffer for long months for a long times.

When it comes down to not being able to breathe and feeling like you cant breathe, the doctor is the thing to do. I needed two courses of to kick that 8 years ago.

Yes I know... that's why I offered Angel my advice to check with her doctor for listen her chest/lungs.

And sometimes, one of the best things we can do, instead of offering advice is to offer sympathy.

Oh I wasn't realized that my sympathy offer in my previous posts before quoted DefMATRIXense's post with the link of my thread, is not good enough. I wasn't realized that the problem was begin when I provided a simple link of my thread toward DefMATRIXense's post about beleive in natural things in first place because he/she mentioned flu shot and then showed Angel with interesting link "questions to answer" about antibiotios in general way as she quoted my post toward DefMATRIXense.

Oh I see, I didn't know that this thread is supposing for sympathy only, not offer any advices... I am sorry that my sympathy offer is no good enough because I thought my sympathy offer in my some posts before quoted DefMATRIX's post is good enough.

While some of us may have problems with this or that, remember not every case is the same!

Of course I know... so? I do not see anything wrong when we (I mean everyone) shares our own experiences how to take of our health, etc differently when they have same health problem, don't we? I beleive in open and share experiences when we suffers the same problems are good education for all of us. *shrug*

I do realize that each person is different for not want to accept anyone's advice offer but sympathy only. Anyway, thank you for advice... Next time, I will remember it.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Even when you have a flu shot, it's for only one specific flu virus - there are many different flu viruses floating around. If you get a flu shot, and you still get sick with the flu, its probably a different strain.

The only way to prevent catching the flu is to wash your hands with hot/warm water and soap frequently, and carrying a bottle of antibacterial gel with you for those times when you can't wash your hands.

Even then - you can still get the flu anyway.

Exactly!

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Bronchitis is characterized as caused by viruses or bacteria and can last for several days to weeks. In other words, it's a respiratory infection. While they may go away in a few days, the cough can last for weeks.

In Angel's case, it is being accompanied by mucus, not being able to breathe well, and general malaise - in which she needs to see a doctor. She is taking Rebelgirl's advice and has tried to see the doctor with RoadRunner to confirm and treat her bronchitis, however, they are having car problems and will have to make a new appointment.

Sometimes herbal remedies can help, but not, solve the problem.

I feel that you did not read my post fully.

I advised Angel to go see doctor for check her chest/lungs in previous posts because I aware what bronchitis is about because I myself suffer for many years.

No, Bronchitis is not caused by viruses but bacteria/infection.

I thought it would be nicer to offer advice from different people who suffers same problem... *shrug*

I stated in my previous post that I would take antibiotic unless I have to. I took herbal tea for bronchitis and bronchitis drop from my doctor.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Not all home remedy works such has hot tea with honey, lemon with honey, or herbal things..

Again, this is for cure viruses, not antibiotics.

not always work but does heal in some ways. it builds up cells and gives you a bit energy.

Yes I aware but some mediciation also are not always heal, too.

As far as the bacterial virus or infection.. it does need to be treated. the are to kill the bad cells not to make you feel better but to kill off the bad cells. with the bronchial problem, it does have to be treated by a dr.. theres no way in hell you can make it better all by yourself.

starting with a cold develops fluids in your lungs and that causes to cough.. when the cough isn't treated, it becomes a bronchial problem. with that said.. the bronchitis can lead to pnemonia which is very very hard to heal. that situation can lead to death. so if you go this far having bronchitis, your body needs antibiotics to kill off the bad cells. but to heal your cough, cold, sinus.. it can be easily treated with home remedy. Most people do use home remedies for colds. as far as the flu.. not EVERYBODY can have the flu shot. I can't have one. for health reasons. so not everyone can have one.

Yes I know... I don't know why you explain me here because I did stated in my previous posts about some form of bronchitic could lead severe serious that's why I advised Angel to check with doctor to listen her chest/lungs.

I went doctor for check my chest/lungs when I know I have bronchitic, not flu... I can treat myself with flu, not bronchitic like what I stated in my previous posts. I get bronchitic drops (herbal drops) from my doctor and also herbal tea for bronchitic, too. I would have to take antibiotics if it's necassary. My doctor know I don't want to take antibiotic but herbal... She respect my wish but I would have to take antibiotics if I have to accord my doctor.

what Angel is saying is that she has been miserably ill with the bronchitis and was very frustrated not being able to see her dr so she can be treated. its not a virus.. its a viral in her lungs that wouldn't heal without being treated.

That's how I advised Angel to check with doctor to listen her chest/lungs, don't I?

Lieb.. I know you do things naturally.. that's great! You have guts to do this naturally. but there are things that need to be treated by doctors and be medicated for it. I got your point that there are side effects in medicines.. but everybody is going to die one day. with or without medicines... so what the hell... right? but I absolutely respect you and what you do with your life. its Angel speaking that she was miserably sick. no comparison here on how she feels.

I feel that you didn't read my post fully. I would advise you to read my post carefully then you will understand where I come from.

It doesn't mean that I NEVER take mediciation. I do take medication if I have to. I use a lot of herbal things for many years...

 

[Liebling:-)))]

I am sorry that I wasn't realize that I cause the problems here that's because I quoted someone's post with the link of my thread over natural things.

I say no more further and decide to leave this thread here alone...

 

[Liebling:-)))]

*cough* ha ha...

Is that helpful for flu shots... Nope..
I've learned it lot from that.. which when you got flu shots...
Afterall someone who got flu and can give you get flu because of virus germs..
While you have flu shots.. Flu virus inside your body and cannot escape from your virus spread give next victim.. because flu stay inside trap your body reason "flu shot" that why..

Rest of my family doesn't need frigg'n flu shot.. no big difference from spread virus all over around the passing around.. jumping into germs inside the body then jumping next victim.. As long you keep care yourself and know what do with flu.. take medication or else... pay visit doctor and get antibodies.

Right!!!

 

[Foxrac]

Wow, I'm surprised that some people got flu again after one year, repeat over years.

My last time to suffered from flu in spring 1997, I was missed at school about around 1-2 weeks, that's not really fun to have flu, temperature was roughly about 104 and took some meds to keep lower the temp.

It has been in 10 years with no flu, I haven't took flu shot since 2005 after 2 years of flu shot.

I'm usually got colds in anytime, usually for season changes and part of health concern from my workplace due alot of germs, bacteria and viruses.

 

[Cheri]

No, Bronchitis is not caused by viruses but bacteria/infection..

Yes it can and had been done, You can get bronchitis from many varies of reasons. Usually cause by an infection with a virus when someone has a nose sinuses, throat it can spreads to the airway passages in the lungs. You can get it from smoking You can get it from the air. There's many varies of reasons to get Bronchitis and it can lasted up to 10 days if it is treated.

 

[Kalista]

Yes it can and had been done, You can get bronchitis from many varies of reasons. Usually cause by an infection with a virus when someone has a nose sinuses, throat it can spreads to the airway passages in the lungs. You can get it from smoking You can get it from the air. There's many varies of reasons to get Bronchitis and it can lasted up to 10 days if it is treated.

I got bad mucus in my chest with bad cough for two weeks !! I woke up in the morning, all suddently dizzy, sweat, neaseua and voimting. My body was all ache from head to toes. I could not get out from my bed for two days. My stomach was extremely pain - hard to explain this to you. I thought, I had an appendix but it was not. I felt so weak and sick!

It called norwalk virus, it was outbreak in New England last week. At my work all the staffs got sick for two weeks. It was really awful, I never had this feeling before.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Yes it can and had been done, You can get bronchitis from many varies of reasons. Usually cause by an infection with a virus when someone has a nose sinuses, throat it can spreads to the airway passages in the lungs. You can get it from smoking You can get it from the air. There's many varies of reasons to get Bronchitis and it can lasted up to 10 days if it is treated.

Actually, there're different types of broncihitis (form of bronchitis).

If one of bronchitis types caused by virus then antibiotics is not right. There're 2 different infections is bacteria and viruses. I would say few of bronchitis types caused by virus but not really always... but most is bacteria infection.

That's why I advised anyone to check with doctor to listen their chest/lungs to know what form of bronchitis they have before take antibiotic or not.




"Antibiotics help cure bronchitis, chest colds, upper respiratory infections and common colds."

WRONG!
Viruses cause more than 90% of all bronchitis, colds and upper respiratory infections. Therefore, antibiotics will not cure 90% of these infections.

And also explain about Bacteria vs. Viruses in those link.

Many factors decide if antibiotics are necessary


acute bronchitis tag (page 1) on Journal a day


Interesting to read those link about ear infections. My both boys got ear infections but they don't get antibiotics but herbal drops..

Kaslia, I am sorry to hear how you feel like that... I know it's definitely a sucker!!!

 

[Cheri]

Yea Liebling. I don't use antibioties because it had never helped me, I've uses Zithromax those Zpak treatment pills those are more powerful ones for those who are smokers. It works wonder for me. But it true though it does not help the sinus infection but only helps clear the airway blockage in the lungs.

 

[TweetyBird]

wow.. i hope some of yall getting better soon.. and my hubby had cold bad for 1 week last dec so now he have cold again (started yesterday) ooh gee.. so i have go store and buy liquid for him..

 

[SxySpicyGrrl]

yeah! it goes everywhere!!! everybody is sick!! oh boy! Me doing okay thining postive!! not to getting wrose

 

[Angel]

:sigh:

Anyways I hope you all get better soon, take care