God Versus Satan

[Liebling:-)))]

How do you know history is true?

Simple answer:

Any histories do have originals and proofs but the bible?

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Because Humans have souls and everything else has no soul. The God is soul not person or thing.

No matter what... Kill is Kill

Let the believers answer your questions at your post # 677. I am thrilling to see their answer on your questions.

 

[Cheri]

I read all posts of this thread. it is an interesting debates. I have a few questions.

If you did read the entire thread, how come you are asking the same questions that already been mention in this thread, and answers also been provided.

Is Holy Bible the original Bible?

The books of the Bible vary depending on tradition, for Christians is called the Holy Bible, Scriptures, Word of God.

What about jew people do not believe in Jesus at all. But I thought Jews beg Roman King to kill Jesus because they believe Jesus is not the GOD.

Jews do not accept Jesus as the messiah, thinks the messiah never came to earth yet. But, the Christians believe that Jesus is the messiah, because of miracles he have done.

If Adam and Eve are not sinners on the Earth

Adam and Eve are sinners, they ate the forbidden fruit and they were warned not to eat it, they disobey God.

and then why did the GOD sent Jesus to the Earth and didn't do any sin until he died? He was suffered through all sins for 33 years.

Every single human being falls short of God's standards. We all do wrong, expect Jesus, Jesus's death for us is a gift, a wonderful gift. God only requires one thing of us in order to receive it – that we believe it. God no longer judges us on the basis of our sin, but on the basis of whether we believe that Jesus paid for that sin. God loves us so much and wants to save us from hell.

IS The God, Jesus, and Holy spritie are the one means they are SAME person?

Yes, God, Jesus are the same, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit all in one, the Glory equal.

I do understand Christians denied that God is a murderer.

God is not a murder, He loves us all, but hates the sins, people have rejected God, and his righteous laws, should we blame ourselves for the evil deeds we have done? or God? the choice is yours to decide.

Supposedly, God is not a murderer, and then why did the God decide to flood on the earth and then Dinos, animals, and humans were died due to drown.

I already explained that in this thread, God saw how corrupt the Earth had become, during the Noah Ark time, evil all the time, God said "I will wipe mankind, whom I have created, from the face of the Earth – men and animals, and creatures that move along the ground, and the birds of the air – for I am grieved that I have made them." God did used the flood to destroyed the Earth, because people were sinning, doing wrongs. It is going to happen again when Jesus comes down on earth. Because the world is in chaos. God did told Noah to get all his people together the flood was coming, Noah did warned the people, the people decide not to listen to Noah. Who's fault is that? the people not God.

I thought Satan is the light of angel from the God doesn't mean Satan is a bad person.

Satan is evil, enemy of God, Satan is the most powerful fallen angel and the master of all evil.

Is that possible The God used his abuse powers and is that why Satan decided to turn against the God?

No, God created angels, All angels were created good expect Lucifer (Satan) and his fellow angels, Lucifer and his angels were cast out of heaven and became Satan and his evil spirits.

The two reasons The God can't kill Satan because Satan is the light angel of the God and God wants to test us to believe him or the Satan.

Satan is therefore the author of evil, God could kill Satan, but he's waiting on that one, God created Satan there's no way Satan will have the most power than God, no way. God is holding back his wrath, giving us time to turn to God. But, Satan will be thrown in the lake of fire, he will and some of us will go with Satan those who don't believe in God and his righteous laws. Any more questions?

 

[Cheri]

No matter what... Kill is Kill

And atheists religious believes like you do. God did not commit murder, he executed judgment, God said sinning equals death, but Jesus who save us from death. If you read carefully, the first several times we've told you the same answers, yet, you kept going at it. If you believe God is a murder then keep it to yourself, because honestly I don't need you to brainwashed people in believing that when you can't understand God and his righteous laws.

 

[Cheri]

How many times we told you including some links in previous posts that it's God who is the responsible, not Eve & Adam or anyone. We rather to open our mind to reality but you still can't get it either. This link I provide to support my logic... that's exact link what I said many times in previous posts.

You give me links from other religious who believe God is responsible, yet, I'm a Christian and I stay a true Christian and I believe God is not responsible for the chaos on this earth. It's the people, not God.

Why God allowed Satan and devils ruined the world like this in first time when he KNEW it will happen to the earth?

*sigh* Which part don't you understand? God gave us a free will, do you understand a "free will" means to you? it means you are free to believe, You are free to do what you want, if you chosen bad, it's your own fault, not God's. If you chosen right, then that means you believe in God's righteous laws.

No matter either created or allow but he is still responsible for that what he cause the earth like this.

Ummm... He's responsible for your evil action? I don't think so, You're responsible for your own life, what life you lead, and what path. For example, You're responsible for words that comes out of your mouth, just like how you said God is a murder, Did God tell you to say that? No, You said it.

Do you still blame Eve and Adam for that?

Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit and they were warned not to eat it, they disobey God. Yes, I do blame Eve and Adam for all that they did. Thanks to them for this world is what it is today.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Cheri, you failed to see the logic.

And atheists religious believes like you do.

So? As whatever you say is not my problem. I don't care what kind of religion I have because I'm not interesting but myself. Show yourself what you really are is pick on/worry what kind of religions everyone have. *shake my head* I really don't care what kind of religious what everyone have but accept what they are and positive debate agree/disagree with them when we see the logic between the bible and reality than worry what kind of religions what everyone here have.

God did not commit murder,

Yes I know that he did not commit murder because he is a God and can do what he wants with the people from the earth.

he executed judgment, God said sinning equals death, but Jesus who save us from death. If you read carefully, the first several times we've told you the same answers, yet, you kept going at it.

I do not need to read carefully because I saw the logic between the bible and reality. I see both sides, not one side.

If you believe God is a murder then keep it to yourself, because honestly I don't need you to brainwashed people in believing that when you can't understand God and his righteous laws.

Yes I only say what the bible claim that God killed the people. *scratch my head* Am I brainwash people? Nope, I am not only one who see the logic. :roll: You listen the bible only, not reality.

It can't be possible to deny that God killed the people and blame Satan because Satan don't kill the people but play the people's feeling.

Those list of questions, you can't deny...

If God is perfect as what the beleivers claim but why he created Adam as prefect man then warn prefect Adam to not do something then?

How could God create something imprefect when he KNEW in first place?

If Adam and Eve turned out imperfect when God knew they will turn out imprefect, whose fault is that?

Is it your, everyone and my fault that God made Adam imperfect?

Who put the tree of knowledge and create a serpent to test Adam and Eve's faith or fool Adam & Eve? Why God do that?

Should Adam and Eve not to learn the knowledge of good and evil or what?

Is it because wisdom belongs to God alone?

Is God angry because he was being disobeyed?

Did Eve trust the serpent to tell the truth, not God ?

God don't even discipline Eve and Adam but punish them harshly, isn't he?

 

[Reba]

Any histories do have originals and proofs but the bible?

Oh, really? You know that for a fact? Did you see it for yourself? Do you trust the human authors of history? Do you know who they are? How do you know the authors didn't have bias or limited perspectives when they wrote down their records? How do you know those are "original"? Did you know that some "records" are forgeries? What about the eras of history before there were written records? Do you know that historians don't agree with each other? Do you know that "history" changes? Do you know that authors constantly change history books?

 

[Liebling:-)))]

You give me links from other religious who believe God is responsible, yet, I'm a Christian and I stay a true Christian and I believe God is not responsible for the chaos on this earth. It's the people, not God.

This is your choice. See yourself that I am not criticizing your belief but respect your decision. If you are a true Christian as what you claim then not criticzied my "belief" without ask me what kind of Religion, I have first. Shame you.

*sigh* Which part don't you understand? God gave us a free will, do you understand a "free will" means to you? it means you are free to believe, You are free to do what you want, if you chosen bad, it's your own fault, not God's. If you chosen right, then that means you believe in God's righteous laws.

Yes I know that God gave us free will... So? He did the same thing to Eve and Adam as well but he do not need to kick them out of garden that's because they "disown" God. I do beleive that Eve & Adam are for God but they doesn't mean to disown God that's because they were being fooled by snake. They are fresh couple and too naive to understand the knowledge between evil and good.

I would never never never give my children free will to test their faith then kick them out of my house for their disobeyence as long as they have my support and responsible to learn what wrong and right until they are 18 years old....

Ummm... He's responsible for your evil action? I don't think so, You're responsible for your own life, what life you lead, and what path. For example, You're responsible for words that comes out of your mouth, just like how you said God is a murder, Did God tell you to say that? No, You said it.

You fail to see the logic...

I am not talk about me but Eve & Adam... It's God who is responsible who plant the tree of knowledge to test Eve & Adam's faith in first place when he KNEW that it happened to the earth. I would never do that to my children but worry their safety.

Yes I said that God is a murder accord the bible. It written that the God killed the people...

I don't understand that you label the people as murder, not God when they did the same thing as God, that's because he is a God and human is not God... Oh pleasseeee...

Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit and they were warned not to eat it, they disobey God. Yes, I do blame Eve and Adam for all that they did. Thanks to them for this world is what it is today.

No, I thank God for create the tree of knowledge in first place to test Eve and Adam instead of protect their life.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Oh, really? You know that for a fact? Did you see it for yourself? Do you trust the human authors of history? Do you know who they are? How do you know the authors didn't have bias or limited perspectives when they wrote down their records? How do you know those are "original"? Did you know that some "records" are forgeries? What about the eras of history before there were written records? Do you know that historians don't agree with each other? Do you know that "history" changes? Do you know that authors constantly change history books?

Accord castles, etc... Oh yesssss..... museums... originals things in museum, castles, etc. oohhh yessss.... I beleive in them because they are fact... I read history then visit their museums. It's sad that you denied or doubt to know about the history of your country. I do not deny to know about British and German's histories, also European and other countries as well where I travel to because they are fact since they have originals and proofs. Those history stays forever.

 

[Cheri]

So? As whatever you say is not my problem. I don't care what kind of religion I have because I'm not interesting but myself. Show yourself what you really are is pick on/worry what kind of religions everyone have. *shake my head* I really don't care what kind of religious what everyone have but accept what they are and positive debate agree/disagree with them when we see the logic between the bible and reality than worry what kind of religions what everyone here have.

I don't care what religious you are, You made that choice. I care about myself, I'm a true Christian and I sure do not need you to tell me otherwise what to think of God. In reality, from God, sin is unrighteous action, judgment will be served.

Yes I know that he did not commit murder because he is a God and can do what he wants with the people from the earth.

Would you say putting murders on death row is murder? or justice for the crime that the murders committed?

Yes I only say what the bible claim that God killed the people. *scratch my head* Am I brainwash people? Nope, I am not only one who see the logic. :roll: You listen the bible only, not reality.

And you know why the earth was wiped out? No, instead you screamed bloody murder. Doesn't sound like you listen to both sides. Do you understand God's judgment? No, obvious you don't.

It can't be possible to deny that God killed the people and blame Satan because Satan don't kill the people but play the people's feeling.

Satan doesn't need to kill, Satan is GLAD to torture humans, he wants people to do bad. God doesn't want people to do bad, God only wipe out the earth because PEOPLE were doing bad, didn't even follow Noah to be saved from the flood.

If God is perfect as what the beleivers claim but why he created Adam as prefect man then warn prefect Adam to not do something then?

God did not created Adam to be perfect, He created Adam as a man, Eve as a woman. God gave them free will.

How could God create something imprefect when he KNEW in first place?
If Adam and Eve turned out imperfect when God knew they will turn out imprefect, whose fault is that?

I don't know where did you get the idea of God made Adam perfect? God created Adam and Eve to be “free” beings, able to make decisions, able to choose between good and evil.

Satan convinced Eve to eat the fruit, Sinners tend not to see it as a sin in the same light as God, because we are sinners ourselves, but, I see it as a sin that Adam and Eve DID disobey God and listen to Satan.

Who put the tree of knowledge

God put the tree of knowledge of good and evil in the Garden of Eden to give Adam and Eve a choice – to obey Him or disobey Him.

and create a serpent to test Adam and Eve's faith or fool Adam & Eve? Why God do that?

God did not want Adam and Eve to sin. But, God allowed Satan to tempt Adam and Eve to force them to make the choice. Adam and Eve chose, of their own free wills, to disobey God and eat the forbidden fruit. The result – evil, sin, suffering, sickness, and death have plagued the world ever since. Adam and Eve should have ignored Satan's tempt, but they did not, so therefore it's IS NOT GOD'S FAULT.

Should Adam and Eve not to learn the knowledge of good and evil or what?

*sigh* Read the same answer above.

Is God angry because he was being disobeyed?

Of course, because Adam and Eve chosen to do evil, instead of the righteous.

Did Eve trust the serpent to tell the truth, not God ?

Didn't Eve listened to the serpent? What does that tell you?

God don't even discipline Eve and Adam but punish them harshly, isn't he?

Why do you consider God to be horrible for executing judgment? He did told Adam what would happened if he and Eve ate the forbidden fruit. Adam and Eve were aware.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Is Holy Bible the original Bible?

I doubt.

What about jew people do not believe in Jesus at all. But I thought Jews beg Roman King to kill Jesus because they believe Jesus is not the GOD.

Yes that's right.

If Adam and Eve are not sinners on the Earth and then why did the GOD sent Jesus to the Earth and didn't do any sin until he died? He was suffered through all sins for 33 years.

That's what I thought so that's why I focus the logic between the bible and reality.

All what I doubt either God sent his son to the earth as sacrifie for the people to Romans. OR Jesus sacrified his life himself for the people to Romans.

IS The God, Jesus, and Holy spritie are the one means they are SAME person?

Christians beleive that Jesus is God. I was raised to know that Jesus is son of God.

I do understand Christians denied that God is a murderer.

Yes I have seen it.

Supposedly, God is not a murderer, and then why did the God decide to flood on the earth and then Dinos, animals, and humans were died due to drown.

logically

I thought Satan is the light of angel from the God doesn't mean Satan is a bad person. Satan just disobey the God for good reason. Is that possible The God used his abuse powers and is that why Satan decided to turn against the God? The two reasons The God can't kill Satan because Satan is the light angel of the God and God wants to test us to believe him or the Satan.

I would destory Satan to save earth if I were God... Oh Well :roll:

Honestly, I personally don't beleive in Satan.
I doubt Eve & Adam's existance but "fairy-tales story". I really have no proof either they are existance or not...
I beleive in Jesus's existance as man with flesh and blood like us.

 

[Reba]

Okay, this is your choice. I obey the law of my country, not the bible because it's reality.

What if the law required you to surrender your Jewish friends to death camps? Would you obey?

I can move out if I don't agree with my country's law.

What if the government collects all passports and doesn't allow you to leave?

Kill is Kill, no matter what.

You keep saying that. What exactly does that mean to you? Does it mean you think all killing is equally wrong? Also, why do you smile about "Kill is Kill"?

God always offered the people a chance??? Look what he did to Eve & Adam... He kicked them out of garden without give them chance...

God warned them what would happen. Adam and Eve knew what would happen. They chose to disobey, knowing the consequences.

No matter either Hilter or anyone is Satan or God but kill is kill...period.

Again, what does it mean "kill is kill"? Do you mean that all killing is equally wrong? Do you mean that all killing is equally justified? What do you mean?

Yes I know that I am not God but know their hearts and minds because I open my mind to reality.

You're a mind reader? You can even read the minds and know the hearts of people who died thousands of years ago? Wow! Maybe you should get your own TV show.

No, They had not experienced (or had knowledge of) "good" nor "evil". (See my link toward Cheri's post).

They knew they're not supposed to eat the fruit. They knew that they would be punished for eating the fruit.

What part of "no" did they not understand?

Do you mean that you NEVER have any mistake in your life?

I never said that. I make mistakes all the time. What does that have to do with my statement? It seems that you are avoiding my question. Let me try again:

"If God did it that way would it really make a difference to you? If inherited sin began with Adam and Eve's second "mistake" instead of their first one, would it make a difference in your acceptance of Jesus as Savior? Really?"

You never correct your mistakes in your life?

Sure I do. So? What is the relevance to my question?

"If inherited sin began with Adam and Eve's second "mistake" instead of their first one, would it make a difference in your acceptance of Jesus as Savior?"

It sounds that God is not a forgiving and understanding person?

God is forgiving. That's why He provided a way for sinners to be forgiven. He offers forgiveness to everyone. It's not His fault that people refuse His forgiveness.

That's exactly, you know that nobody are prefect... Why God punished Eve & Adam harshly over their ONE mistake instead of give them the chance to improve their mistakes... :roll:

God gave them a chance to repent and accept salvation. They did that. He forgave them.

You seem to confuse consequences of sin with lack of forgiveness.

Suppose you tell your son to not play soccer in the house. He disobeys, kicks the soccer ball in the house, and the ball smashes a rare vase that your grandmother gave you. Your son says he's very sorry, and he won't do it again. You forgive him. However, the vase is still destroyed. The broken vase is a consequence of disobedience. You love your son, he's sorry, and you forgive him. But that doesn't fix the vase. It is forever broken. Forgiveness doesn't put the vase back together again.

Forgiveness and consequence are not the same.

Interesting, you think okay what and how the God did to people including firstborns because he is God...

You seem hung up on this "firstborns" thing. How is killing a "firstborn" any worse than killing a middle born or last born?

I only see the fact instead of deny what/how he did.

What "fact" would that be? God killed people, yes. No one denies that. He had to protect His people.

Are you saying that if your children were in danger, you would not kill the attackers?

No they have no idea what evil and good is about.

I'm repeating myself for the umpteenth time but here it goes again:

God warned Adam and Eve not to eat the fruit. God told them what would happen if they did. Adam and Eve weren't stupid. They understood. They made an informed, intelligent choice.

 

[Cheri]

I don't understand that you label the people as murder, not God when they did the same thing as God, that's because he is a God and human is not God... Oh pleasseeee...

You don't even understand the differences between murder and executing judgment. When people murder they kill for the act of evil, when God kills, it was for judgment of the people's sins an act of disobedience against God. Jesus die on the cross and shed his blood on our behalf. It's not the same thing.

 

[Reba]

...I do not need to read carefully because I saw the logic between the bible and reality....

Fine. Then stop exhorting the rest of us to "read carefully". If you don't feel it's necessary, then I guess none of us needs to "read carefully" anything you link or post either. :roll:

 

[Cheri]

Fine. Then stop exhorting the rest of us to "read carefully". If you don't feel it's necessary, then I guess none of us needs to "read carefully" anything you link or post either. :roll:

Thank-you.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

I don't care what religious you are, You made that choice. I care about myself, I'm a true Christian and I sure do not need you to tell me otherwise what to think of God. In reality, from God, sin is unrighteous action, judgment will be served.

Re-read what you said to me...

[QUOTE] Cheri's previous post to Liebling.

And atheists religious believes like you do.

It shows yourself what you are INTERESTING to judge what kind of religious, I have without ask me first.

And you know why the earth was wiped out? No, instead you screamed bloody murder. Doesn't sound like you listen to both sides. Do you understand God's judgment? No, obvious you don't.

Don't compare between Mother Nature and God. :roll: Hurriance, floods etc are happend in any countries at reality is Mother Nature, not God. I only said what the bible claim that it's God who killed the people, floods, fire, etc... Understand?

Satan doesn't need to kill, Satan is GLAD to torture humans, he wants people to do bad. God doesn't want people to do bad, God only wipe out the earth because PEOPLE were doing bad, didn't even follow Noah to be saved from the flood.

I know those story often... I do not need to repeat it.

God did not created Adam to be perfect, He created Adam as a man, Eve as a woman. God gave them free will.

I don't know where did you get the idea of God made Adam perfect? God created Adam and Eve to be “free” beings, able to make decisions, able to choose between good and evil.

Oh yes God created Adam in his own image. Oh yes God did create a perfect earth with perfect couple who pleased him.

You explained yourself here already that God gave them free will... but why God kicked them out of garden that's because he is angry for their disobeyance. He do not need to give them free will but protect them.

Satan convinced Eve to eat the fruit, Sinners tend not to see it as a sin in the same light as God, because we are sinners ourselves, but, I see it as a sin that Adam and Eve DID disobey God and listen to Satan.

Repeat: How do Eve know that snake is a Satan since she is very naive and has a little knowledge of good and evil.

God put the tree of knowledge of good and evil in the Garden of Eden to give Adam and Eve a choice – to obey Him or disobey Him.

I would destory the tree of knowledge to protect my children's safety instead of test their faith when I were God.

God did not want Adam and Eve to sin.

Then destory tree of knowledge to protect Adam & Eve.

But, God allowed Satan to tempt Adam and Eve to force them to make the choice. Adam and Eve chose, of their own free wills, to disobey God and eat the forbidden fruit. The result – evil, sin, suffering, sickness, and death have plagued the world ever since. Adam and Eve should have ignored Satan's tempt, but they did not, so therefore it's IS NOT GOD'S FAULT.

See yourself what you said here... Yes, God is the responsible...

Of course, because Adam and Eve chosen to do evil, instead of the righteous.

I am sure that Eve and Adam would not choose evil if they learn what evil is about. God only told them that they will die if they touch the tree of knowledge... No word about Satan... etc...

Didn't Eve listened to the serpent? What does that tell you?

Very simple because she has no clue what evil is about because God didn't warn her about Satan's existance in first place.

Why do you consider God to be horrible for executing judgment? He did told Adam what would happened if he and Eve ate the forbidden fruit. Adam and Eve were aware.

Accord the bible what they described what and how God did to people.

 

[Reba]

Accord castles, etc... Oh yesssss..... museums... originals things in museum, castles, etc. oohhh yessss.... I beleive in them because they are fact... I read history then visit their museums.

Castles? How far back does the history of a castle go? To the beginning of time? I don't think so.

Yes, a castle is there and you can see and feel it. But does the castle tell you everything about the people and events that put it there? It can offer clues but it can't tell you everything. Also, the clues can be interpreted differently by different historians. How do you know which interpretations to believe?

What about places that don't have castles? What about their history?

Museums? Museums have only a portion of historical material that is produced. What about all the documents that were lost or destroyed? What about the events that weren't written down? What about the documents that contain lies? How do you accept that history?

How do you know they are "fact"? Do you personally know the authors?

It's sad that you denied or doubt to know about the history of your country.

Huh? Where did that come from? What does that have to do with the events of the Bible? United States history is not in the Bible.

I do not deny to know about British and German's histories, also European and other countries as well where I travel to because they are fact since they have originals and proofs. Those history stays forever.

Any European history less than 2,000 years old is not in the Bible. What about events that happened before that time? What history do you know about the world before people wrote down important events? There are no "originals" for them.

If there is "proof" that "stays forever" then why do historians disagree with each other, and why do the history books change every decade?

You don't trust the Bible because it has various "human authors", but you do trust the "human authors" of secular history.

 

[Cheri]

And atheists religious believes like you do.
It shows yourself what you are INTERESTING to judge what kind of religious, I have without ask me first.

How is that judging? All I said was "atheist religious believes like you do" Which means you both think alike in many ways, that's not judging. I don't need to ask what religious you are, because you said it yourself, You only believe in yourself.


And the rest of your post I don't need to answer because you keep going in circles. No needed for repeatably,

 

[Reba]

I am sure that Eve and Adam would not choose evil if they learn what evil is about.

Why are you sure about that? Ever since Adam and Eve, people have been choosing evil even though they know what evil is about. Knowledge of evil doesn't prevent evil from happening.

God only told them that they will die if they touch the tree of knowledge... No word about Satan... etc...

You're doing the same thing that Eve did; you're misquoting God. God told them not to "eat" the fruit of the tree; Eve added the "don't touch".

Genesis 2
16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: 17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Didn't Eve listened to the serpent? What does that tell you?
Very simple because she has no clue what evil is about because God didn't warn her about Satan's existance in first place.

Eve listened to the serpent because she wanted to. She should have told the serpent, "No! God told me not to eat the fruit, and I will obey God, not you!" She didn't need to know who the serpent was. She knew what God had told her, and that's Who she needed to obey.

That's simple enough to understand.

 

[DefMATRIXense]

You don't even understand the differences between murder and executing judgment. When people murder they kill for the act of evil, when God kills, it was for judgment of the people's sins an act of disobedience against God. Jesus die on the cross and shed his blood on our behalf. It's not the same thing.

I respect your opinion and I have one simple question.

For example, I am a sinner, and against George Bush doesn't mean he can kill me since he has power of control this country. If he does, Is he a murderer or it is for executing judgment?

Another example, I am a sinner, and against Fidel Castro doesn't mean he can kill me since he has power of control in Cuba, If he does, Is he a murderer or it is for executing judgment?