A question...is the Cochlear implant made for the hearing or for the deaf?

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CrazyPaul said:
Oh, yes it is. Only rich patients can afford it so they can live longer. That's a luxury.
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What about a lung transplant or kidney transplant, is that a luxury? :roll:

If you ever need a new heart, I'll think you would change your weird views in a second!
 
ambrosia said:
I don't know about that. All they need is wheel chair access, which is pretty much standard building anyway.
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Also once an employer has paid the initial cost of wheelchair access, they don't have much ongoing expenses. My employer has expenses every single hour I work. Makes me more costly and less desirable to hire I'd think.
 
ambrosia said:
I don't know about that. All they need is wheel chair access, which is pretty much standard building anyway.
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But all of this talk of employment costs supports the idea that CI made for hearing and not deaf if we think about the original question...because basically, they COULD accommodate us, but it isn't cost effective, so getting a CI for this reason makes it better for employer, not necessarily deaf in the situation.
 
BrittBritt said:
But all of this talk of employment costs supports the idea that CI made for hearing and not deaf if we think about the original question...
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After reading and thinking about it some more I think it's a bit of a mix. I think it may depend on the person. I mean I can see why someone may think that just in the employment environment it may seem like a CI is benefitting the hearing. It makes it easier for them to communicate with someone with one, but are they the ones really benefitting from that? It's making it easier for the deaf person to communicate with the hearing one as well, are they not benefitting from that? Who's benefitting more in that case? They could just as easily have an employee who isn't deaf, have the same work done by someone else that there is no communication problems. I guess it's all a matter of perspective.

If you're in line at the grocery store and you (lets say you're the CI recipient) aren't having to ask the cashier what what what and having them to repeat repeat repeat, are they the ones benefitting, or are you? By not having to ask what what what.
 
green427 said:
Do you have a job? If yes, you should know what it is like being a deaf employee in a hearing workplace.

If wearing a HA or CI helps reduce the need to have a terp, that is an asset, right?
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I was not hired because I am deaf. Oh, ****, I should get a CI so I would get hired.

That's the dumbest thing I've heard. Honest!
 
I guess it depends on people's perspective. Let's say that someone wants to go to car dealership to buy something turbocharged. Does the person just want to get this done with so that they can have as much time as they want to show off their turbocharged engine? Or do they want to promote their good will? You know let car dealership know that your CI helps you hear the rubber burn when you floor gas pedal. Do you think car dealer salesperson will be sooooo pleased to hear that you want to buy one of their cars? Maybe if you want to be friends with car sales person, you can thrill them with stories about how CI helps you hear all those cars going fast and what the engine sounds. Maybe if the sales person is nice, they would give you a better deal. They like novel stories. I think they would love to hear stories about how your CI helps you hear all people honking and giving you "**** you" salute when you zoom by them showing off your power.
 
Jiro said:
not "easier" to accommodate. more like "favored".
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It think it may actually be "easier" to accommodate someone in a wheelchair or using other mobility aids because building a ramp, for instance, is a one time thing. Once it is built it is done. While a terp is an ongoing expense.
 
ha, so is the cochlear implant is Expensive, a lot more expensive than a couple cubes of concrete, builder's labour...unlike highly trained audis', otolaryngologists, technicians, sugeons, anesthetists, speech therapists, and name a few... with interpreters is just one professional to deal with AND you have a guarantee that dialogues in the interaction will be understood...
 
A major part of the costs of Cochlear Implant is the surgery/ hospital care. As one's skull is opened-hopefully the surgeons knows what they are doing. Right graduated from "google U" with self defined honours!

Whether the total "costs" of utilizing an interpreter for say the "life time of one's Cochlear Implant" can be "comparable"? Seems a bit odd for comparison. The minor problem how much does one compensate having one around throughout the day?

Does this suggest -only a "problem" on computers?
Studying Sociology can be "interesting"! Culture
 
For hearing people's benefit because hearing people can learn ASL but most don't want to. Oh well.
 
shel90 said:
For hearing people's benefit because hearing people can learn ASL but most don't want to. Oh well.
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So.....do you think everyone in America should learn Spanish so they can speak with the Mexicans? If we all learned Spanish for them who would be the ones benefitting? The mexicans...or the Americans?
 
drphil said:
A major part of the costs of Cochlear Implant is the surgery/ hospital care. As one's skull is opened-hopefully the surgeons knows what they are doing. Right graduated from "google U" with self defined honours!
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Why do you continually put such lame, stupid statements into a real discussion? Who said anything about CI surgeons having graduated from Google U ?? :roll::roll:
 
AlleyCat said:
Why do you continually put such lame, stupid statements into a real discussion? Who said anything about CI surgeons having graduated from Google U ?? :roll::roll:
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I think he is speaking of himself having gotten information by using Google.
 
ambrosia said:
So.....do you think everyone in America should learn Spanish so they can speak with the Mexicans? If we all learned Spanish for them who would be the ones benefitting? The mexicans...or the Americans?
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We should learn every language! Who needs math and science???
 
ambrosia said:
So.....do you think everyone in America should learn Spanish so they can speak with the Mexicans? If we all learned Spanish for them who would be the ones benefitting? The mexicans...or the Americans?
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both. that's why many countries learn English.

It's a real damn shame that most Americans are uni-lingual... and many foreigners are bilingual... and Europeans are trilingual.
 
I used to know much more Spanish...majored in it in college. Even what amount I still know has come in handy at various times.

I agree with what you wrote there, Jiro.
 
Jiro said:
both. that's why many countries learn English.

It's a real damn shame that most Americans are uni-lingual... and many foreigners are bilingual... and Europeans are trilingual.
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Bi and tri..... Hmm cool....soooo which languages get the shaft then?
 
TXgolfer said:
Bi and tri..... Hmm cool....soooo which languages get the shaft then?
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<-- that guy, I guess
 
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