CPS teacher strike and Illinois area....

Foxrac said:
My VR counselor told me that having a master degree in education is required for all new incoming teachers who teach at high school (9-12), the change is due to No Child Left Behind Act (NCLB Act).
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Interesting. I notice that the field of the master's degree is "education" not a field of specialty such as English, math, history, science, etc. :hmm:
 
Reba said:
And teachers leave their kids at schools, too.

And teachers and other taxpayers pay for child care for younger children throughout the year, and for all children during school breaks.

So?

Working parents, teachers and people working in other professions, pay for child care.
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In fact, many teachers pay less in childcare because they are home with their children during summer and Christmas break.
 
Jiro said:
moving on....


No. Teachers play the most important roles in our lives. They're basically our substitute parents. If you disagree, well I don't know what to say.
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My parents were my parents, and my teachers were my teachers. There roles didn't overlap. I never considered my teachers to be substitute parents. I suppose that could be the case in families where the parents aren't present.

Aren't teachers supposed to teach, not be parents to the children?


We should do something about this for our teachers. What's happening to our teachers in this country is wrong and abysmal.
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What do you suggest for this "something?"
 
Reba said:
Will they all be fired if the evaluation takes place?
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I would fire them now. There is no way I would send my kid back to a school where Teacher's put their financial interests above the children.
 
TXgolfer said:
I would fire them now. There is no way I would send my kid back to a school where Teacher's put their financial interests above the children.
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most teachers never had for decades.....
 
TXgolfer said:
In fact, many teachers pay less in childcare because they are home with their children during summer and Christmas break.
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many teachers have 2nd job during summer break. my teachers work during summer even though they're well-paid.
 
Reba said:
My parents were my parents, and my teachers were my teachers. There roles didn't overlap. I never considered my teachers to be substitute parents. I suppose that could be the case in families where the parents aren't present.

Aren't teachers supposed to teach, not be parents to the children?
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perhaps your time was different...

Reba said:
What do you suggest for this "something?"
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better pay raise. better incentives.
 
Jiro said:
many teachers have 2nd job during summer break. my teachers work during summer even though they're well-paid.
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Yes some do.....That only brings them back to even on the child care issue. Well, except for summers.
 
TXgolfer said:
Yes some do.....That only brings them back to even on the child care issue. Well, except for summers.
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what only brings back is your lack of understanding and fallacies in this issue.
 
Jiro said:
Best to ask a teacher about that
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Will you accept if I ask professor at my university? :lol:

It looks like I have go to local public school and ask those question to teacher.

or I can ask Shel but where is she now?
 
Jiro said:
better pay raise. better incentives.
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They make more than the tax payers that are paying them. That is unsustainable.

The solution is simple, hire new teachers for 33% less. Increase numbers of teachers by 20%. Restructure pensions for new teachers. Use the savings to improve buildings. And don't close any schools.

Better for the taxpayer, better for the children, better for the City of Chicago.
 
Foxrac said:
UAB - Education: General Information
Graduate Programs in Education

I gave you 2 example links that you required to complete those - master degree to teach at high school.

I think it is silly but it is due to NCLB Act, also graduate school is more expensive too.
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This is the problem:

"The mission of the College of Education is to offer exemplary professional programs to prepare educators to be reflective practitioners and effective decision makers who facilitate student learning. In fulfilling this mission, the College of Education seeks to recruit high quality students and to encourage them to become self-directed life-long learners. It also seeks to provide comprehensive instructional programs and to foster education research and service to enhance policy making and professional development at state, regional, national, and international levels.

The University of Alabama’s College of Education seeks to prepare professionals who value and demonstrate reflective practice and ethical decision making through respecting diversity, honoring difference, and promoting social justice. Experiences in academic programs are devoted to developing individuals’ understanding of knowledge construction, learning, pedagogy, and responsible professional practice in the contexts of education."

Wouldn't it be better for teachers to learn more about their subject matter that they teach, and at least have a good general education?

I don't know how to say this without hurting some feelings but it needs to be said.

Too many teachers learn all the "how to teach" courses without knowing a whole lot about the subjects they teach, or even how to be a well-rounded educated person.

I've interpreted in classrooms where I had to bite my tongue, and not correct the errors that the teachers made. I know that they had at least bachelor's degrees but they sounded like sophomores in high school (and they weren't new or young teachers). Oh, they knew how to use the smart board, iPads, and lots of clever teaching techniques. But they seemed stuck when asked a question outside of the curriculum. Their English skills were pitiful. It was sad.

Those who had some work experience outside of teaching seemed to be more knowledgable.

I'm not saying they're all like this but too many are.
 
TXgolfer said:
They make more than the tax payers that are paying them. That is unsustainable.

The solution is simple, hire new teachers for 33% less. Increase numbers of teachers by 20%. Restructure pensions for new teachers. Use the savings to improve buildings. And don't close any schools.

Better for the taxpayer, better for the children, better for the City of Chicago.
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that's cute.... :lol:
 
Reba said:
This is the problem:

"The mission of the College of Education is to offer exemplary professional programs to prepare educators to be reflective practitioners and effective decision makers who facilitate student learning. In fulfilling this mission, the College of Education seeks to recruit high quality students and to encourage them to become self-directed life-long learners. It also seeks to provide comprehensive instructional programs and to foster education research and service to enhance policy making and professional development at state, regional, national, and international levels.

The University of Alabama’s College of Education seeks to prepare professionals who value and demonstrate reflective practice and ethical decision making through respecting diversity, honoring difference, and promoting social justice. Experiences in academic programs are devoted to developing individuals’ understanding of knowledge construction, learning, pedagogy, and responsible professional practice in the contexts of education."

Wouldn't it be better for teachers to learn more about their subject matter that they teach, and at least have a good general education?

I don't know how to say this without hurting some feelings but it needs to be said.

Too many teachers learn all the "how to teach" courses without knowing a whole lot about the subjects they teach, or even how to be a well-rounded educated person.

I've interpreted in classrooms where I had to bite my tongue, and not correct the errors that the teachers made. I know that they had at least bachelor's degrees but they sounded like sophomores in high school (and they weren't new or young teachers). Oh, they knew how to use the smart board, iPads, and lots of clever teaching techniques. But they seemed stuck when asked a question outside of the curriculum. Their English skills were pitiful. It was sad.

Those who had some work experience outside of teaching seemed to be more knowledgable.

I'm not saying they're all like this but too many are.
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that is also why our education system is failing too but what can under-performing schools do? nobody wants to take that job. it's hopeless.
 
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