CPS teacher strike and Illinois area....

Jiro said:
according to Post #41, yes. approximately 6,000 teachers.
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Every teacher will be gone, eh?

What about in the suburbs? No teachers will be fired?
 
Jiro said:
what only brings back is your lack of understanding and fallacies in this issue.
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Nope, less hours = less child care needs/costs Equal hours = equal child care needs/costs. Basic math.
 
TXgolfer said:
Nope, less hours = less child care needs. Equal hours = equal child care needs. Basic math.
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your basic math does not match up with the complex reality. unfortunately.

if the world operates on basic math, then we would all be wealthy :lol:

I notice that none of you are a teacher in here. Only Tracy is and she has a firsthand experience with what's going on in there. Sad that none of you are taking it into account. I have handful of friends who are/were teachers and handful of them left teaching because it's just not worth it anymore even though they really want to teach but oh well.
 
Jiro said:
that is also why our education system is failing too but what can under-performing schools do? nobody wants to take that job. it's hopeless.
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Chicago has received thousands of unsolicited resumes this week. Tons of people want those jobs. They are begging to take their place.
 
TXgolfer said:
Chicago has received thousands of unsolicited resumes this week. Tons of people want those jobs. They are begging to take their place.
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source please?
 
Jiro said:
your basic math does not match up with the complex reality. unfortunately.

if the world operates on basic math, then we would all be wealthy :lol:

I notice that none of you are a teacher in here. Only Tracy is and she has a firsthand experience with what's going on in there. Sad that none of you are taking it into account. I have handful of friends who are/were teachers and handful of them left teaching because it's just not worth it anymore even though they really want to teach but oh well.
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Then please explain how a teacher would need to pay more than any other taxpayer for child care?

Oh well is right, there are plenty of people willing to teach for less. *shrug*
 
TXgolfer said:
Chicago has received thousands of unsolicited resumes this week. Tons of people want those jobs. They are begging to take their place.
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I guess they'll get their chance when all 6,000 of the Chicago teachers get fired after the first round of evaluations.
 
TXgolfer said:
Then please explain how a teacher would need to pay more than any other taxpayer for child care?
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it has been explained at great length. simply scroll back and re-read it.

TXgolfer said:
Oh well is right, there are plenty of people willing to teach for less. *shrug*
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where? and why aren't they immediately replaced?
 
Reba said:
I guess they'll get their chance when all 6,000 of the Chicago teachers get fired after the first round of evaluations.
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:lol: I would fire them all now. I wouldn't even wait.
 
TXgolfer said:
Maybe myou should let students decide how they are graded too!
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exactly why they're on strike because of this -

Chicago teachers strike for first time in 25 years after contract talks fail | Fox News
Lewis said among the issues of concern was a new evaluation that she said would be unfair to teachers because it relied too heavily on students' standardized test scores and does not take into account external factors that affect performance, including poverty, violence and homelessness.
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It may be easy to fire everyone and start from scratch, but there is a small thing called union. They'll fight that teachers were fired illegally.

Many of the teachers at schools in "poor" areas wait and see if job opens in more affluent suburbs. It's very difficult to get lower income areas filled up. In many places in Chicago, you can be shot for walking on wrong side of street. I wouldn't want anyone to work on Southside Chicago. No $$$ is worth the trouble.

Those CPS teachers who are part of union and able to work in the safer areas of Chicago should feel lucky. More supportive parents, kids who are more up on par with grade level, better buildings.

Sad thing is if a teacher told kid, if you do bad on test, teacher will be fired. Kid won't care. Who cares when they can go home and just do their own thing.

A very tough task being teacher.
 
Reba said:
This is the problem:

"The mission of the College of Education is to offer exemplary professional programs to prepare educators to be reflective practitioners and effective decision makers who facilitate student learning. In fulfilling this mission, the College of Education seeks to recruit high quality students and to encourage them to become self-directed life-long learners. It also seeks to provide comprehensive instructional programs and to foster education research and service to enhance policy making and professional development at state, regional, national, and international levels.

The University of Alabama’s College of Education seeks to prepare professionals who value and demonstrate reflective practice and ethical decision making through respecting diversity, honoring difference, and promoting social justice. Experiences in academic programs are devoted to developing individuals’ understanding of knowledge construction, learning, pedagogy, and responsible professional practice in the contexts of education."

Wouldn't it be better for teachers to learn more about their subject matter that they teach, and at least have a good general education?

I don't know how to say this without hurting some feelings but it needs to be said.

Too many teachers learn all the "how to teach" courses without knowing a whole lot about the subjects they teach, or even how to be a well-rounded educated person.

I've interpreted in classrooms where I had to bite my tongue, and not correct the errors that the teachers made. I know that they had at least bachelor's degrees but they sounded like sophomores in high school (and they weren't new or young teachers). Oh, they knew how to use the smart board, iPads, and lots of clever teaching techniques. But they seemed stuck when asked a question outside of the curriculum. Their English skills were pitiful. It was sad.

Those who had some work experience outside of teaching seemed to be more knowledgable.

I'm not saying they're all like this but too many are.
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The college websites don't exactly state about master degree required to teach in high school, so you have to meet with academic advisor so they can give accurate information about requirement.

I don't know if it is only statewide (Alabama) or nationwide (federal) but my VR counselor told me and point - it is federal law: NCLB Act. He recommended any clients who want to be high school teacher, go to Gallaudet University or University of Montevallo so they include BA and master degree.

Old teachers are grandfathered and you can teach at K-8 with BA only.
 
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