Drinkers live longer than non-drinkers

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I've been saying that it's ok to drink as long as it's drunk in moderation and that many studies show that moderate drinkers live longer than non-drinkers. Alcohol does more to prevent heart disease than exercise and diet alone.

Just a new study came out confirming what I've been saying:

"The benefits of drinking alcohol may go beyond the jollies of inebriation and, in fact, help you live longer than non-drinkers, Time.com reported."

Heavy Drinkers Outlive Non-Drinkers, Study Finds - Longevity | Prevention | Aging - FOXNews.com

The benefits quickly disappear if you drink more than 3 drinks. But if you want to live longer, you have to drink unless contraindicated.

Even if you don't drink and exercise and eat well, you will NOT live longer than drinkers who exercise and eat well.

Simply put, alcohol is a powerful medication that can work in favor with you as long as you don't abuse it.
 
With so many things "____ live longer than ____"... Why bother with these health news? All it does is create stupid fad diets. Evidentially, it doesn't matter what you consume as long it's not bordering on malnutrition.

Like example... South Korea consumes three times the amount of sodium as recommended by the WHO, yet they're one of the longest-living people; people in Central Asia consumes more fats than anyone else in the world, and are also considered as the longest-living as well. Yet, here in North America, we, as perfectionists, tend to think these extremes as bad without factoring in other reasons.

So, what this tell us? Non-drinkers can live longer than moderate drinkers depending on the other factors in their life. There's more to it than "exercise" and "eat well" as well since virtually every diet on the planet has their pros and cons.
 
Yea, sometimes I want to combine ALL of the studies and do a Monte Carlo analysis to see the actual main effects.
 
This page gives a lot of studies showing the benefits of moderate drinking:

"Moderate drinkers tend to have better health and live longer than those who are either abstainers or heavy drinkers. In addition to having fewer heart attacks and strokes, moderate consumers of alcoholic beverages (beer, wine or distilled spirits or liquor) are generally less likely to suffer hypertension or high blood pressure, peripheral artery disease, Alzheimer's disease and the common cold."

"Why drink to reduce the risk of heart disease? Wouldn't eating a good diet, exercising, and losing weight do the same thing?

No, it wouldn't. The moderate consumption of alcohol appears to be more effective than most other lifestyle changes that are used to lower the risk of heart and other diseases. "

Alcohol And Health
 
My posting does not suggest a diet fad. It requires MODERATION so it cannot be extreme.

Heavy drinking is dangerous. And I mean DANGEROUS.
 
*facepalms*

You don't remember the red wine fad? No one took it to the extreme. This was before other things were discovered to relieve heart problems, then people went from drinking moderately to trying out the other things.
 
Red wine is STILL recommended as a drink. You didn't read, did you?

The french had lower risk of heart disease despite eating high fat diet and they beleive red wine is the reason for their low incidence. If you remove alcohol from their diet, they die... sooner.
 
netrox said:
Red wine is STILL recommended as a drink. You didn't read, did you?

The french had lower risk of heart disease despite eating high fat diet and they beleive red wine is the reason for their low incidence. If you remove alcohol from their diet, they die... sooner.
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I edited.

I am just saying with the amount of stuff we put into our body, it's difficult to attribute issues entirely to one thing. So, explain why my great-uncle lived to be ninety without consuming alcohol once in his life and on a diet centered around high fats and pork; yet, most of the moderate drinkers in our family don't even live to see past 70.

So daredevil is right. A Monte Carlo test is needed.
 
um, your own personal experience does NOT mean a thing when it comes to large-scale studies.
 
netrox said:
um, your own personal experience does NOT mean a thing when it comes to large-scale studies.
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You're unable to think outside the box? He drank a lot of tea. People who drink lots of tea have health similar effects as moderate drinkers.

Coconut water is also shown to have the same effects as well.
 
:dunno:

My dad and mom each died at age 66 years. My dad drank, and my mom didn't. They were in bad health the last few years of their lives.
 
"You're unable to think outside the box? He drank a lot of tea. People who drink lots of tea have health similar effects as moderate drinkers."

I've looked at those studies.

Tea drinking is linked to better health but alcohol offers more protection.

"Results showed that adults who used to drink at least five cups of green tea daily were 16% less likely to experience premature death from all causes. Moreover, regular green tea drinkers had a 26% lower risk of cardiovascular death than their counterparts who did not consume the beverage. Green tea's beneficial effects upon women's health proved to be even stronger, as women who drank at least 5 cups of the beverage were 31% less likely to die from heart disease and stroke."

Green Tea Prolongs Life Span - People who drink at least 5 cups of green tea per day reduce their risk of dying from various causes - Softpedia

Now compare with alcohol:

"A Harvard study found the risk of death from all causes to be 21% to 28% lower among men who drank alcohol moderately, compared to abstainers"

So, all cause mortality: 16% vs 21%-28%

and it offers more benefits for heart:

"Moderate drinkers had the lowest mortality rate, reducing their risk by 32%, compared to abstainers. The health benefits were virtually identical for beer, distilled spirits, and wine. "

Heart-related morality: 26% vs 32%.

So, alcohol moderation trumps the tea.
 
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