Obama Awarded 2009 Nobel Peace Prize.

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kokonut said:
Jiro has them. Go ask him for it.
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I provided more than 3 requirements. You said Obama did not meet 3 of Nobel's requirements. What are those?

I suppose I'll take your non-answer response as in "I dunno. somewhere in there"
 
Jiro said:
you're blasting Obama for not sending troop now..... and you're blasting Obama for riling against Bush to send more troop which is not in agreement with the "Nobel Peace Prize" philosophy

oh boy..... nothing satisfies you, huh?
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I'm keeping the context within what the NPP looks for. Which is why I pointed out the huge conundrum surrounding the reason for nominating Obama only 12 days into his presidency which, as you have said, was based on his prior speeches, philosophy and his so-called local community actions that should have impressed the NPP committee to no end. His prior speeches and actions are seemingly at odds to what he is doing and saying today.
 
Jiro said:
I provided more than 3 requirements. You said Obama did not meet 3 of Nobel's requirements. What are those?

I suppose I'll take your non-answer response as in "I dunno. somewhere in there"
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And no, "I don't like Obama" isn't going to be an acceptable answer. :giggle:
 
Jiro said:
yup



with that logic - Dalai Lama doesn't deserve Nobel Peace Prize since there's no international peace. Right?
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For that matter, MLK is being used as a deserving example. He did not have international impact, either.
 
Reba said:
King didn't just give speeches. He acted upon them.

Well, he didn't get the Nobel prize for literature, so it wasn't his book that impressed them.

How many other people have served as big-city community organizers and state senators? Lots, I'm sure. Did they get Nobel Peace prizes? No. Why? Because that kind of work doesn't meet the qualifications.
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so explain the Nobel Peace Prize for Al Gore. I mean his "An Inconvenient Truth" isn't exactly about world peace.
 
kokonut said:
I'm keeping the context within what the NPP looks for. Which is why I pointed out the huge conundrum surrounding the reason for nominating Obama only 12 days into his presidency which, as you have said, was based on his prior speeches, philosophy and his so-called local community actions that should have impressed the NPP committee to no end. His prior speeches and actions are seemingly at odds to what he is doing and saying today.
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How would you know what the NPP looks for? You obviously have not read their rationale behind the award, or you would not continue to bring issues into the discussion that are completely unrelated to their rationale.

I'd still like to know which 3 of the requirements you have determined that Obama did not meet.
 
kokonut said:
I'm keeping the context within what the NPP looks for. Which is why I pointed out the huge conundrum surrounding the reason for nominating Obama only 12 days into his presidency which, as you have said, was based on his prior speeches, philosophy and his so-called local community actions that should have impressed the NPP committee to no end. His prior speeches and actions are seemingly at odds to what he is doing and saying today.
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again - come back in 3.3 years (or 7.3 if he guns for re-election) and we can have a lovely chit-chat over a cup of coffee on what he did or what he did not do.
 
Jiro said:
I provided more than 3 requirements. You said Obama did not meet 3 of Nobel's requirements. What are those?

I suppose I'll take your non-answer response as in "I dunno. somewhere in there"
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I already explained several postings back.

There are only three requirements that Dr. Alfred Bernhard Nobel drew up on November 27, 1895 regarding peace.
 
Jiro said:
with that logic - Dalai Lama doesn't deserve Nobel Peace Prize since there's no international peace. Right?
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Well, Dalai Lama actively worked for peace on an international scale. He dealt personally with international leaders and the UN. The year prior to his selection for the Nobel, he developed and presented the Strasbourg Proposal. Apparently the Nobel committee found him worthy.

The examples you gave were what Obama did in Chicago (a city) and Illinois (a state).
 
Jiro said:
so explain the Nobel Peace Prize for Al Gore. I mean his "An Inconvenient Truth" isn't exactly about world peace.
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Ha, there is no explaining it. :giggle:

If you read the Nobel criteria, you noticed that they have modified that in recent years to include work done promoting world environment.

Apparently, that includes books that make bogus claims about the environment.
 
kokonut said:
I already explained several postings back.

There are only three requirements that Dr. Alfred Bernhard Nobel drew up on November 27, 1895 regarding peace.
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that was 1895. This is 2009 in case you forgot. You do know it has more than 3 requirements, right?
 
Reba said:
Ha, there is no explaining it. :giggle:

If you read the Nobel criteria, you noticed that they have modified that in recent years to include work done promoting world environment.

Apparently, that includes books that make bogus claims about the environment.
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I still think his "An Inconvenient Truth" is "An Inconvenient Bogus" :giggle:
 
jillio said:
For that matter, MLK is being used as a deserving example. He did not have international impact, either.
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He had the same impact as Gandhi in recognizing that same nonviolence philosophy and actions where he talked the talk and walked the walk.
 
Reba said:
Well, Dalai Lama actively worked for peace on an international scale. He dealt personally with international leaders and the UN. The year prior to his selection for the Nobel, he developed and presented the Strasbourg Proposal. Apparently the Nobel committee found him worthy.

The examples you gave were what Obama did in Chicago (a city) and Illinois (a state).
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He had met with Tony Blair, Nicolas Sarkozy, Nyan Win, and several more foreign dignitaries prior to his Presidency. He went to Africa as well.
 
kokonut said:
He had the same impact as Gandhi in recognizing that same nonviolence philosophy and actions where he talked the talk and walked the walk.
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very strange that you're backing MLK. You do know that MLK had committed infidelity?
 
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qualifications flyer with a Nobel wax emblem at top center:

The Norwegian Nobel Committee

Invitation to nominate candidates for

The Nobel Peace Prize

All proposals for candidates for the Nobel Peace Prize to be awarded December 10th, must, in order to be taken into consideratoin, be presented to the Norwegian Nobel Committee by a duly qualified person before the first of February of the same yeaqr.

Any one of the following persons is entitled to submit proposals:


1. Members of national assemblies and governments of states;
2. Members of international courts;
3. University rectors; professors of social sciences, history, philosophy, law and theology; directors of peace research institutes and foreign policy institutes;
4. Persons who have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize;
5. Board members of organizations who have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize;
6. Active and former members of the Norwegian Nobel Committee; (proposals by members of the Committee to be submitted no later than at the first meeting of the Committee after February 1) and
7. Former advisers appointed by the Norwegian Nobel Institute.

The Nobel Peace Prize may also be accorded to institutions or associations.
The nominators are strongly requested not to publish their proposals.

Proposals shoudl be sent to:
The Norwegian Nobel Committee
Drammensveien 19
NO-0255 OSLO
Norway
 
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