Should We Refuse the Bailout for the BIG 3?

[Foxrac]

thank you! to those who support-- we are a gm family and things are scary right now!

Your welcome

 

[pek1]

They has learn their hard lesson, even damage has done and our economic are very bad now, not all of their fault to cause like that and there's alot of problem with credit companies and bank, it has hurt all of 3 companies.

I'm not economist but do study on some of them, I had alot of share from my friend that who is economist.

Sorry, without doubt, it will pass by congress, they care about our economic, regardless on democrat or republican, also remember, this bailout has regulation and you shouldn't pay their mistake.

They haven't even started to learn their lesson -- ask Christie. Is the Big 3 part of the problem in our economy or are they part of the solution? For them to be part of the solution would be an oxymoron and they've got problems that haven't even been addressed yet. Look at the airline industry and what they pulled after 9-11 -- that should not have occurred and they should not have been bailed out. Sink or swim, Detroit. Is it mean to say this, especially this close to Christmas? Well, I don't believe we're even addressing the issues here; the leaders screwed up and screwed their employees -- all of them -- and they all want to get bailed out. Sorry, no can do.

 

[Foxrac]

They haven't even started to learn their lesson -- ask Christie. Is the Big 3 part of the problem in our economy or are they part of the solution? For them to be part of the solution would be an oxymoron and they've got problems that haven't even been addressed yet. Look at the airline industry and what they pulled after 9-11 -- that should not have occurred and they should not have been bailed out. Sink or swim, Detroit. Is it mean to say this, especially this close to Christmas? Well, I don't believe we're even addressing the issues here; the leaders screwed up and screwed their employees -- all of them -- and they all want to get bailed out. Sorry, no can do.

Oh my boy, I'm going let you say whatever.

I'm not going argue with you, even you just want USA to be in very deeper recession.

 

[Hwy99]

I voted yes, we need to recover our ecomonic and raise the numbers of jobs available.

 

[Cheri]

No I think we should not bailout the Big three. They're largest companies, and it's their fault for making more cars that won't sell. I would rather to save our economy than paying to help bail out greedy guys with expensive suits with private jets and a nice mansion. I'll say let them go bankruptcy or sell their mansion and jets to save their own company. They have to learn to fight to survive, they can't depends on the government, our economy sucks already. Lol

 

[Foxrac]

I voted yes, we need to recover our ecomonic and raise the numbers of jobs available.

Yup, same here, also I have more reason to support due big fan of American car.

It's their opinion to favor or against on big 3 companies.

 

[Hwy99]

Yup, same here, also I have more reason to support due big fan of American car.

It's their opinion to favor or against on big 3 companies.

I am more supportive of enviroment friendly cars, such like hybrid cars and doesn't really care for the cars that use only gas.

 

[Jiro]

I voted yes, we need to recover our ecomonic and raise the numbers of jobs available.

I am more supportive of enviroment friendly cars, such like hybrid cars and doesn't really care for the cars that use only gas.

isn't that contradictory to each other? You support Big 3 but you support hybrid cards.... Big 3 are not exactly in business of making environmentally-friendly cars

 

[Hwy99]

isn't that contradictory to each other? You support Big 3 but you support hybrid cards.... Big 3 are not exactly in business of making environmentally-friendly cars

They can create it, can they?

For example, my brother have the Honda which use the gas for many years and created the hybrid for my brother to have.

 

[Jiro]

They can create it, can they?

For example, my brother have the Honda which use the gas for many years and created the hybrid for my brother to have.

because Japanese manufacturers have one model for all countries. Big 3 don't. Just to make a new model for America costs over $3 billion alone.

 

[Hwy99]

because Japanese manufacturers have one model for all countries. Big 3 don't. Just to make a new model for America costs over $3 billion alone.

And what about my question? Can Ford cars to be hybrid?

 

[Jiro]

And what about my question? Can Ford cars to be hybrid?

yes they already have but it's not even that great. do you see anybody buying American hybrid vehicles like hot cakes?

 

[Jiro]

beside..... what's wrong with buying gas-efficient car? it is very cost-effective to build it as well.

 

[Hwy99]

yes they already have but it's not even that great. do you see anybody buying American hybrid vehicles like hot cakes?

Yes I do, it was used to my parent's car and later they hand it to my brother. I was told by my parents and my brother both that they save some of gases because of the electric.

My parents bought it nearly brand new and crashed (only at the front), they fixed it and later my brother use it so often so my parents let him pay the monthly payment and using the car because my parents already have a big truck and a fancy red car. I also believe that it was last hybrid car to be in the crashed cars for sale company in my location.

 

[Jiro]

Yes I do, it was used to my parent's car and later they hand it to my brother. I was told by my parents and my brother both that they save some of gases because of the electric.

My parents bought it nearly brand new and crashed (only at the front), they fixed it and later my brother use it so often so my parents let him pay the monthly payment and using the car because my parents already have a big truck and a fancy red car. I also believe that it was last hybrid car to be in the crashed cars for sale company in my location.

didn't you say it was a Honda car? I'm saying that more people buy Japanese hybrid cars than American hybrid cars. By making a hybrid cars - it requires MORE parts thus making car heavier and more prone to malfunction. Gas-sipping (high gas efficient) car are lighter and simpler.

 

[Foxrac]

because Japanese manufacturers have one model for all countries. Big 3 don't. Just to make a new model for America costs over $3 billion alone.

Not some of model like Honda Pilot is sold in US but not sold in UK.

 

[Jiro]

Not some of model like Honda Pilot is sold in US but not sold in UK.

point is - Honda Pilot is exactly same as sold anywhere. Big 3 modifies its models for several countries.

 

[Foxrac]

didn't you say it was a Honda car? I'm saying that more people buy Japanese hybrid cars than American hybrid cars. By making a hybrid cars - it requires MORE parts thus making car heavier and more prone to malfunction. Gas-sipping (high gas efficient) car are lighter and simpler.

Yup, hybrid technology is very expensive right now, it will getting cheaper in near future.

SUV and pick-up could be 30-40 mpg, only few problem is weight and towing, I hopefully they will figure it out.

 

[Foxrac]

point is - Honda Pilot is exactly same as sold anywhere. Big 3 modifies its models for several countries.

Honda Pilot don't sell in UK and Australia, unlike US does.

 

[Jiro]

Honda Pilot don't sell in UK, unlike US does.

no no. you're misunderstanding me. Honda Pilot is exactly same as sold in any countries that sell it. But my guess that Honda Pilot is not sold in UK is because of its size.