It it really the deaf/Deaf community?

jillio said:
Testing as in discrimination testing during an audiological evaluation in the booth, or "testing" as during a session?
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In the beginning of each session we do a hearing aid check with the ling sounds, and when it is time for a evaluation of where her speech is. It is usually bi-annually.

The hoop is a embroidery hoop covered in the material that is used on stereo speakers. It is used to cover her mouth so she can't lipread.
 
faire_jour said:
In the beginning of each session we do a hearing aid check with the ling sounds, and when it is time for a evaluation of where her speech is. It is usually bi-annually.

The hoop is a embroidery hoop covered in the material that is used on stereo speakers. It is used to cover her mouth so she can't lipread.
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Don't you do an HA check each morning before your daughter puts her aids on?
 
jillio said:
You might want to check out the poll results in dreama's thread. Looks like "want my child to hear" and "mainstream education" are the two most popular answers. Is anyone asking which mainstream school?
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Didn't realize that wanting your child to hear is a bad thing. Whenever I had a bad day that has to do with my deafness, my mom says "I wish I could give you my ears."

Gosh, what a horrible thing for a mother to say.
 
I want to ask: Do deaf schools and mainstream schools have the same percentage of rankings? In terms of comprehensive assessment? I know Florida has one, so I'm curious if this also applies to deaf schools. If deaf schools IN GENERAL are similar to the hearing school counterparts IN GENERAL, then we don't need to worry about which school we pick in terms of education, right? Deaf or mainstream.

Also, why would anyone ask which mainstream school? All, if not most, mainstream schools have ONE shared communication: spoken English. Can't say the same for deaf schools. When I say "Which deaf school?" I meant more for their method of communication with the student. It could be oral, ASL, SimCom, SEE, etc.
 
Daredevel7 said:
I want to ask: Do deaf schools and mainstream schools have the same percentage of rankings? In terms of comprehensive assessment? I know Florida has one, so I'm curious if this also applies to deaf schools. If deaf schools IN GENERAL are similar to the hearing school counterparts IN GENERAL, then we don't need to worry about which school we pick in terms of education, right? Deaf or mainstream.

Also, why would anyone ask which mainstream school? All, if not most, mainstream schools have ONE shared communication: spoken English. Can't say the same for deaf schools. When I say "Which deaf school?" I meant more for their method of communication with the student. It could be oral, ASL, SimCom, SEE, etc.
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There are deaf children being mainstreamed who communicate in ASL, SimCom, and SEE.

Most Deaf schools use ASL and English, keeping both languages separate in their true forms instead of a MCE system.
 
Daredevel7 said:
Exactly, my point was that people are being judgmental on too little information. Simply saying "I just implanted my child" generates way too many :noway: before asking "Oh what kind of an environment is your child in?". Same way as too many deaf people are responding :yesway: to "I just put my child in a deaf school." before asking for clarification what sort of a deaf school (since there are many types!).
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I would love to visit every Deaf school (it has been something I have always wanted to do) and for me to form an opinion about all, I would have to visit each one personally.

I have worked/observed/volunteered at approximately 7 deaf schools and I can say with a certainly they are all thumbs up. Sure, they are not 100% perfect but no schools, including public and private, are perfected anyway.

I have worked in mainstreamed deaf ed programs and there is one that I feel is very good but the rest were poorly run leaving the children's needs not being met most of the time.
 
shel90 said:
There are deaf children being mainstreamed who communicate in ASL, SimCom, and SEE.
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Yes, but they use the spoken English to convert into a form of sign language or read English.

shel90 said:
Most Deaf schools use ASL and English, keeping both languages separate in their true forms instead of a MCE system.
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Most? Is this method standard?
 
Daredevel7 said:
Exactly, my point was that people are being judgmental on too little information. Simply saying "I just implanted my child" generates way too many :noway: before asking "Oh what kind of an environment is your child in?". Same way as too many deaf people are responding :yesway: to "I just put my child in a deaf school." before asking for clarification what sort of a deaf school (since there are many types!).
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I would love to visit every Deaf school (it has been something I have always wanted to do) and for me to form an opinion about all, I would have to visit each one personally.

I have worked/observed/volunteered at approximately 7 deaf schools and I can say with a certainly they are all thumbs up. Sure, they are not 100% perfect but no schools, including public and private, are perfected anyway.

I have worked in mainstreamed deaf ed programs and there is one that I feel is very good but the rest were poorly run leaving the children's needs not being met most of the time.
 
Daredevel7 said:
Didn't realize that wanting your child to hear is a bad thing. Whenever I had a bad day that has to do with my deafness, my mom says "I wish I could give you my ears."

Gosh, what a horrible thing for a mother to say.
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Wanting their child to hear is not a bad thing but to make it the central and primary focus in their lives over a long period of time is not a good thing and that is based on what I have witnessed in real life.
 
shel90 said:
What do u mean by standard?
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I'm asking if deaf schools have a standard method of communicating with the kids.

My point was that why would anyone ask "Which mainstream school?" because their one standard method of communicating with the kids is spoken English.
 
Daredevel7 said:
I'm asking if deaf schools have a standard method of communicating with the kids.

My point was that why would anyone ask "Which mainstream school?" because their one standard method of communicating with the kids is spoken English.
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There are oral deaf schools, deaf school who use TC, or SEE.
More and more deaf schools are changing their old philosophies to adopt the BiBi philosophy.


There are different kinds of mainstreaming programs..

Mainstreamed full time with a terp.
Mainstreamed full time with no visual aids (oral-only..like u and I)
Mainstreamed part-time and in a self-contained classroom with deaf children from different grade levels
Mainstreamed with Cued speech, TC, SEE, or PSE

The list goes on. Maybe that is what people mean when they ask that question.
 
shel90 said:
Wanting their child to hear is not a bad thing but to make it the central and primary focus in their lives over a long period of time is not a good thing and that is based on what I have witnessed in real life.
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You are absolutely right. If a child gets a CI, and the parents STILL INSIST that the child MUST be able to hear as well as a hearing person, then that's not cool. If AVT is the focus of a child's development, then that's not cool. But see, I don't automatically assume if a parent wants their child to hear, they must have AVT as their number 1 priority. I prefer asking parents what are their actual courses of action rather than what they think. A parent can think "I want my child to be able to hear" and still teach their child ASL. Mind boggling I know but hey it can happen!
 
shel90 said:
There are oral deaf schools, deaf school who use TC, or SEE.
More and more deaf schools are changing their old philosophies to adopt the BiBi philosophy.


There are different kinds of mainstreaming programs..

Mainstreamed full time with a terp.
Mainstreamed full time with no visual aids (oral-only..like u and I)
Mainstreamed part-time and in a self-contained classroom with deaf children from different grade levels
Mainstreamed with Cued speech, TC, SEE, or PSE

The list goes on. Maybe that is what people mean when they ask that question.
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I see. Thanks for clarifying! :)
 
Daredevel7 said:
Didn't realize that wanting your child to hear is a bad thing. Whenever I had a bad day that has to do with my deafness, my mom says "I wish I could give you my ears."

Gosh, what a horrible thing for a mother to say.
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Your sarcasm has been duly noted, but I think you have been involved in this thread long enough to understand that it is more than the surface context of the words. And the actions that are often governed by that underlying context.
 
Daredevel7 said:
I want to ask: Do deaf schools and mainstream schools have the same percentage of rankings? In terms of comprehensive assessment? I know Florida has one, so I'm curious if this also applies to deaf schools. If deaf schools IN GENERAL are similar to the hearing school counterparts IN GENERAL, then we don't need to worry about which school we pick in terms of education, right? Deaf or mainstream.

Also, why would anyone ask which mainstream school? All, if not most, mainstream schools have ONE shared communication: spoken English. Can't say the same for deaf schools. When I say "Which deaf school?" I meant more for their method of communication with the student. It could be oral, ASL, SimCom, SEE, etc.
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Because there is a huge variance in the performance of mainstream schools based on funding and staff. One shared communication does not insure that students are being reached, challenged, and educated.

And, various mainstream programs use various methods of communication in the classroom; particularly at the lower grade levels.
 
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