What freedoms did we used to have in the U.S.A that we don't have now?

[Wokamuka]

You people whinning about lack of freedom in USA.

This thread is about the U.S.A.!

 

[Byrdie714]

another further case -

smells like Jericho, yes? I guess it's not fiction after all...

Smell like Jericho... :Ohno:

For crying out loud boys!

Anytime there is a natural disaster, there will be a temporary disruption of services.

What people should've done before the disaster was stock up on these supplies beforehand and not afterwards.

Believe it or not--I'm stocked for emergencies, tsunami, earthquakes, and power failures.

Are you?

 

[Banjo]

Believe it or not--I'm stocked for emergencies, tsunami, earthquakes, and power failures.

Are you?

Well, I do have some flashlights for power failure. :-P

Tsunami is highly unlikely to occur where I live. The only natural disasters I think may... that's if they ever happen... *knock the wood* are either tornadoes or earthquakes. The reason why I said earthquakes is because Niagara Falls is on a fault, but it's nothing compared to California. We've never had any earthquakes here. In the last 50 years, there has only been 2 recordings of tiny tremors here. Most people didn't even notice.

To think of it, we've really never had any natural disasters here except for a tornado that damaged a church building back in the 19th century. So it's kind of hard to know what to prepare for something that has never happened here before in the past.

 

[Byrdie714]

Well, I do have some flashlights for power failure. :-P

Tsunami is highly unlikely to occur where I live. The only natural disasters I think may... that's if they ever happen... *knock the wood* are either tornadoes or earthquakes. The reason why I said earthquakes is because Niagara Falls is on a fault, but it's nothing compared to California. We've never had any earthquakes here. In the last 50 years, there has only been 2 recordings of tiny tremors here. Most people didn't even notice.

To think of it, we've really never had any natural disasters here except for a tornado that damaged a church building back in the 19th century. So it's kind of hard to know what to prepare for something that has never happened here before in the past.

How about blizzards?

 

[Deaf Mortgage]

How about blizzards?

Blizzard is meltable.

Its the deep freeze cold below -30 degree that is a natural disaster that can cause problems.

Minnesota do not declare state of emergency on Blizzard but will if far below -30 and close school.

 

[Byrdie714]

Blizzard is meltable.

Its the deep freeze cold below -30 degree that is a natural disaster that can cause problems.

Minnesota do not declare state of emergency on Blizzard but will if far below -30 and close school.

True but if it's a two-three day blizzard.....

 

[Jiro]

True but if it's a two-three day blizzard.....

I remember we had about 2-3 days of blizzard several years ago in NJ. it was pretty bad. "The Hell froze over.." yup they weren't kidding.

 

[Deaf Mortgage]

True but if it's a two-three day blizzard.....

2-3 days blizzard have happened but small impact in metro.

In rural, maybe a problem because of winds etc... The Blizzard may get up to 60 mph... Not as strong as Hurricane up to 150 mph.

You dont notice the damages of structure or anything. Its from years of impacts then the damages appears if not taken care of.

 

[jillio]

Y2K disaster could have happen if nobody was paying attention. At least someone did catch the mistake and took action. Y2K required preparation to go through and prevent. if we neglect the preparation, then we slip back to disaster crisis again.

It wasn't a disaster crisis. It never happened.

 

[jillio]

I haven't seen that happen in my location. Most of the employers and potential employers here bend over backwards to provide terps for employees and job seekers.

How has the Supreme Court prevented job interviewees from getting terp services?

BTW, President Bush did NOT appoint the Supreme Court. Presidents can only nominate individual justices, and those have to be confirmed by the Senate.

The lastest rulings have set the precedent by stating that any disability that can be moderated with a devise, i.e. hearing aid, or CI, is no longer a disability and the individual is not protected under the disability criteria of the ADA. Same for a diabetic that controls their disease with insulin injections. As long as the insulin controls the diabetes, they are not entitled to accommodations, even when it would be something as simple as being allowed frequent breaks to get up and move to prevent reduced circulation in the legs, or to go inject themselves with their meds.

And no, he did not appoint the justices, but he nominated and backed the very justices that have restriced the application of the ADA. And their views regarding the protection afforded by the ADA were well known before he appointed them and they were confirmed.

I'm glad that you aren't seeing problems in your area. I wish I could say the same for everywhere.

 

[Jiro]

It wasn't a disaster crisis. It never happened.

Thank God for that! I hope it stays that way

 

[jillio]

The problem is, they were warned about it for YEARS and YEARS... way back to the 80s. Yet nobody did anything. So it ended up costing the world $800 billion. Of course, a large amount of these were spent on grains and flashlights, no need for that.

Exactly. The amount spent on updates was nominal compared to all of the unnecessary preparations from private citizens based on fear.

 

[jillio]

For crying out loud boys!

Anytime there is a natural disaster, there will be a temporary disruption of services.

What people should've done before the disaster was stock up on these supplies beforehand and not afterwards.

Believe it or not--I'm stocked for emergencies, tsunami, earthquakes, and power failures.

Are you?

Exactly! Prepare for the inevitable, or the probable. That just makes good sense. But preparing for a fictionalized disaster does not.

 

[jillio]

That tells me that people become lazy. Not listen to warning for years then panic in last minute.

Means we need to be more prepared to more warning in future. I don't mean arm ourselves into militias but at least mentally prepare for the situation.

No harm done. Y2K never happened. Doesn't matter if they updated the system 24 hours in advance, or 24 years in advance. And if they had updated when it first began being discussed, they no doubt would have had to update their systems many, many times over the next 20+ years.

 

[Jiro]

Exactly! Prepare for the inevitable, or the probable. That just makes good sense. But preparing for a fictionalized disaster does not.

what is exactly fictionalized disaster? nuclear attack? I already said that it is unlikely to happen. We are more likely to have a bigger scale of natural disaster or a natural disaster that never struck us before. For ie - earthquake in NYC

Most likely natural disaster in NJ-NY area - water-related disaster. Prolonged period of excessive rain.... heavy flooding... even Cat-3+ hurricanes.... etc. So devastating that it will cripple us for weeks and that is yet to happen. With this global warming.... the chance is growing higher.

 

[jillio]

what is exactly fictionalized disaster? nuclear attack? I already said that it is unlikely to happen. We are more likely to have a bigger scale of natural disaster or a natural disaster that never struck us before. For ie - earthquake in NYC

Most likely natural disaster in NJ-NY area - water-related disaster. Prolonged period of excessive rain.... heavy flooding... even Cat-3+ hurricanes.... etc. So devastating that it will cripple us for weeks and that is yet to happen. With this global warming.... the chance is growing higher.

A fictionalized disaster is one that has been put on film for entertainment purposes only....like Jericho.

While a nuclear attack is unlikely, the technology is still there that makes it a threat worthy of notice. Nuclear weapons are not something from someone's imagination that was meant to entertain.

 

[Jiro]

A fictionalized disaster is one that has been put on film for entertainment purposes only....like Jericho.

While a nuclear attack is unlikely, the technology is still there that makes it a threat worthy of notice. Nuclear weapons are not something from someone's imagination that was meant to entertain.

haha I should have phrased my sentence better. I know what fictionalized disaster means literally but I mean in real world.... like what? some examples. I do agree that preparing for it (like nuclear attack) such as stocking up a year-worth of supply, storing enough weapons to arm a small army, and building a deep underground bunker are paranoid and unrealistic. What I meant for preparation is to be trained, armed, and prepared for it. That's easily done with conscription law. I believe this will greatly facilitate the recovery process in coordination with government.

 

[Jolie77]

Guys, Let's please get back on the topic.

The topic is not about the natural disaster and the preparation for it (although that would be a good idea for another thread discussion). This thread is about Which freedom did we used to have that we don't have now?

Thank You.

 

[Reba]

I have evidence! I am going through issues of ADA and Interpreter for my mortgage closing.

So far I am forced to pay for interpreter fee at closing when title office need the communication with client. One did threat that ADA does not apply to title office and it allow written conversation at closing. SMACK to my FOREHEAD! Who want to do written note conversation for 2 hours signatures on mortgage forms?!?!?!?!?!?

Closing with interpreter is about 2 hours but with written note if Deaf ask a lot quesitons, it will take 4-5 hours to really feel comfortable. But many deaf will nod off and accept it. Perfect score for title office and banker to take advantage of deaf not able to stand up and demand for interpreter and not to pay for it.

This is where deaf fall for hidden fees. Often they will transfer the fee to deaf client on interpreter fee at Mortgage closing so title office will not pay for it. PATHETIC!

Where the deaf rights upon the communication accessible at closing of Mortgage loan. A HUGE impact on their financial needs. This really piss me off...

FYI - in last 3 months, I end up paying over $400 worth of interpreter fee out of my pocket so client do not be responsible to pay for interpreter just because title wanted to hide the fee. We caught many of them but few will slap it on my bill instead of their own.

ADA not strong enough for this situation. I wish I could sit down with either Obama or McCain about this.

Whenever I've interpreted at closings, the attorney paid my fee. One attorney needed a little educating by me, and I made sure that he paid me directly and separately from any closing fees. He tried to pull a fast one by charging the deaf client but I stood there and waited until he cut them a new check reimbursing the fee.
Of course some people will try to avoid paying for terps but they usually give in with a little assertiveness.

 

[jazzy]

As a pet owner, we do not want to spay our small dog yet animal control said we must spay our small dog. Before we had a choice, but now they made decision for us against our wishes. That is not America I know of.


Now I had to hid my small dog from them so they won't ticket us for not spay her and not license her (need to spay before we can license her).