and laughing! Oh well Not my business...
That's correct!
Hear Again,
There's something I noticed about you those days, You intend to listen to one side,
Not true. Not once have I stated that I agree or disagree with the decision of a parent to implant their child or not. As I said in my previous post, it is up to each parent to decide for themselves what is best for their child whether this means sign, HAs or a CI.
Therefore we are not anti-CI. So knock it off. I'm tired of hearing, "well parents make those decisions because they want what's best for the child" We don't always make the best decisions when it comes in our children's lives, so we trust our parents making right choices for us at the right time? Not always. Cochlear implant is a huge decision, because they have to be the one wearing it permanent for life, so why should the parent make the choice, when they're not the ones wearing it?
Based on the comments I've read on AD, I strongly disagree with your contention that many of you are not anti-CI. When someone comes along and calls CIs a "piece of sh*t" that sounds pretty anti-CI to me.
Yes, children DO trust their parents to make the right decisions for them. In fact, many children are quite happy to have CIs and are grateful to their parents for making the decision to have a CI. At the same time, there are also children who are just as happy with ASL or TC. Don't get me wrong...I'm not advocating for or against CIs. All I'm saying is that it's up to each parent to decide what is best for their child. This could mean a CI, HAs or sign.
Doesn't make no sense to me if you ask me. The differences between hearing aids and cochlear implant is that hearing aids you can take if off anytime, You don't even have to wear them if you don't' want to, You can't do that with cochlear implant, sure you can turn it off, but you can't remove it out from inside your head unless there's another surgery, and you know how risky that can be?
Unless a person experiences health related problems due to the CI (such as tinnitus, dizziness, pain, etc.) I don't see how removing a CI processor is any different from being able to remove a HA if a child does not wish to hear.
That's why I'm all for cochlear implants for those who WANTS it, children cannot make that decision on their own.
I agree. Since children are not mature enough to make the decision to have or not have a CI, why is it wrong for a parent to make this decision for them either way?
I just wish parents would discuss this important issue involves cochlear implant with their child, because it's not a life threatening condition, so what's the rush, what's the hurry?
Why do some deaf people think that just because a parent chooses to give their child an implant that it has to do with their denial of or inability to accept their child's deafness? Why can't the reason be as simple as wanting the child to have every opportunity possible for academic and social success? Having said that, if I had a deaf child, I'd choose to give them a CI, *but* I'd also make sure that they also learned ASL. In my opinion, (as DD has stated before), the more "tools of communication" a child has in their toolbox, the better.
Ahh.... *interesting* Getting there and thin ice what you've gotten into... avoiding and admit what r u trying to say...
I've gotten into thin ice? Really? Hmmm...and I thought I was simply responding to your comments.
Needless, You're AVOIDing all the answer compare
CHILD VS ADULT
by their own POV speak it out emotions stage... *hmmmm*
I'm not going to repeat myself. You already know how I feel about this issue -- it's up to the parent to decide -- not the child. A child is *not* an adult and therefore can't make that kind of a decision on his/her own.
Just wait and see... when your child turn into TEENAGER stage.. Better prepare yourself!
Wishes you good luck...
When my child becomes a teenager, I will give him/her the choice to remove their CI and be a part of the Deaf community if that is what they wish, so I don't think I have anything to worry about there.
Don't dare you press the "Red button" seek for easy way out solution for your future teenager respond you!
I have absolutely no idea what you mean by this comment. Please explain.
I'll be watching you.........
Ummm. okay.
I do approve Teenager/Adult can make their own decision and want to have implant ci.. That's fine by me then their own choice.. but not child! *coughing*
That's your opinion. I happen to disagree.
Hey hey.. wait minute.. I have say something to you...
My eyes turn into grinning harder and popped my head "lights on" What should best the interest for my child... Okay.. I want my child go hospital and have remove the Cochlea and become Deaf Child.. That what I wanted best for my child's future grow better Deaf Community!
If that's what you want for your child, more power to you! If this is what my child wanted, I would respect his/her wishes.
How do you feel about me? Tell me *press the button debate time*
Don't turn this into something personal. This is a discussion about children and CIs -- nothing more, nothing less.
How so? Most of those children are one years old, 2, some 5, talk about being happy? They don't know what's going on around them, they will learn some days when they're a little bit older enough to know what cochlear implants are all about and what they have. Don't go on making that comment too soon just yet.
Hmmm. I know many children aged 2-5 who understand what the CI is and that it allows them to hear. In fact, I hear many parents talking about how their children *love* their CIs and how the processor is the first thing they reach for in the morning and the last thing they take off at night. Some children even cry when their parents attempt to remove their processor. Now tell me that's a child who doesn't understand the significance of having a CI.
I've watched the movie "sound and fury", I've seen children with CI have no knowledge of signs, and even the parents itself does not even know signs either. WTF is all that all about? Is it really about the child or themselves, You tell me. When I saw that movie it's really about themselves, sorry the truth hurts sometimes. It's a sad movie to watch, even my son told me that he loves me just the way I am wouldn't want to see me change to someone that I'm not.
You're right. I've seen the same thing myself and it is indeed very sad -- and inexcuseable. As I said in an earlier message, there is no excuse for a child with a CI not to have *some* knowledge of sign -- even if they don't end up using it after their CI is activated. When parents refuse to learn sign (whether their deaf child has a CI or not), I think that's the utimate display of selfishness.If I have a deaf child, I can promise you this: my child and I will have the ability to communicate in sign as well as speech.
Parents who choose to implant their child aren't changing the identity of their children. After all, they are still deaf. A CI does not make a child hearing.
I'm very proud of my son who accepts all type of different people, that's the way it should be, it's a disappointing when I watched that movie I don't see them accepting their children the way they were, being deaf.
I think it's just as important for deaf people to accept children and adults with CIs. If I respect your decision not to have a CI, I would hope that you would respect my decision to have my child implanted.
On a somewhat related topic, if you had a child who was visually impaired, would you not do everything you could to give them surgery to help restore their eyesight? If so, how is that any different from a parent choosing to give their child an implant?
If I had a deaf child, I would not even think twice about getting a CI, I would found him/her a better future, without a needed of a CI, and if my child wants one, I'll support him/her without doubt.
That is your decision -- and one I respect 100%.
That's what family are suppose to be, get involved, making decisions together, not alone without a child being involved. it's the child's life we are talking about here, it's not about themselves the parents.
When a parent decides to give their child an implant, many of them are thinking of the best interest of their child -- not their own.
cdaigle430 said:
cdaigle430 said:
Hear Again said:
Why is it important that I have to accept it? I just feel bad for the child because the child never know it's own deaf culture, because not all parents involves or socially themselves along with their CI child with other deaf people in the deaf community. I've seen some says, there's no needed for their child to be involvement with it's community when the child now has a CI, should only be part of the other world, What's wrong with both worlds? That's the major point of why I don't agree with that. You can't just take away the child's history, really the child is deaf, so what's wrong with learning about it's culture too? I don't see why there's a problem with that.Hear Again said:
Hear Again said:
That implies that parents who opt for other options don't love their children.
But anyways really,.The cost of the CI I don't think is worth it at all for what little hearing it gives to deaf people.
Being hearing myself, I can understand how deaf people feel in alot of ways on this subject. But what some hearing parents problem is. It should be up to the child later on in life with they would want this CI surgery. Some hearing parents do it just so they don't have to learn ASL or the child to learn it? Wrong, either way the child is gonna need to learn ASL. The CI is not as good as it should be. It will never be the same for hearing like me. I can understand also how exciting it is for deaf people to hear little sounds hear & there. Those same sounds are sometime annoying to hearing people like me LoL
