BREAKING! NYPD clearing OWS in surprise raid!

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Here is a livestream:
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The Details from NBC NY:

Hundreds of police officers, some in riot gear, descended on Zuccotti Park after midnight Tuesday in a surprise sweep of the Occupy Wall Street headquarters.

It comes just two days ahead of a massive planned demonstration Thursday marking the movement’s two-month anniversary.

Police handed out letters to protesters ordering them to temporarily evacuate the park. Police said the eviction will improve health conditions.

Campers were ordered to remove all their tents. Police claimed it was a health issue.

Protesters were told they will be allowed to return to the park in several hours, after the park is inspected, but without their property, which will be brought to a sanitation garage.

Police in Riot Gear Enter Zuccotti Park, Order Protesters to Vacate | NBC New York

Thoughts?
 
About time. Seriously.

Lice. Zuccotti lung. Fecal and urine matter. Closed quarters over a length of time is asking for trouble health wise. But that isn't the only thing.
 
surprise raid? how? they were given a notification in advance :dunno2:
 
I suppose I could go there right now and be there in 20 min with my HD-quality cameras but... nah! :lol:
 
About time. Seriously.

Lice. Zuccotti lung. Fecal and urine matter. Closed quarters over a length of time is asking for trouble health wise. But that isn't the only thing.

Numerous health problems, assaults, and finally a rape was the last straw for our Mayor at Occupy Philly. Time to go back to the suburbs and their pampered lives...
 
Numerous health problems, assaults, and finally a rape was the last straw for our Mayor at Occupy Philly. Time to go back to the suburbs and their pampered lives...

Right. Already covered that in other threads.
 
Thoughts?

My thought is... these OWS protestors are a bunch of anarchist buffoons. this incident can be peacefully and amicably resolved. It's very simple - Mayor Bloomberg gave his word that they can go back to park again once the crew cleans it up to ensure that the park condition is sanitary.

it's unfortunate that because of this incident.... OWS has lost its credibility and they threw away what they fought for. OWS began at Wall Street and everybody looks at them for inspiration. It is unfortunate that OWS acted very poorly like outlaws.

Mayor Bloomberg gave his best to work with them and supported them all the way but if this is how OWS wants to play, then I hope NYPD permanently shuts them down. This little anarchist act is tiresome. go home and get a job, you bum.
 
I have family friends down at OWS. I was on Facebook when occupy Boston posted about OWS....was freaking out about my friends....Their mom (who is my second mom) posted, and said my good friend was in Brooklyn....
her sister (who I do not know too well) is in the park chained to something and refusing to leave...Sophie said they were teargassing and arresting people.
So Dave and kokonut and all, do you really believe it right that the police were refusing entry to the park for the protesters to remove their stuff? They were doing NOTHING...They were exercising their right to peacabley protest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I have family friends down at OWS. I was on Facebook when occupy Boston posted about OWS....was freaking out about my friends....Their mom (who is my second mom) posted, and said my good friend was in Brooklyn....
her sister (who I do not know too well) is in the park chained to something and refusing to leave...Sophie said they were teargassing and arresting people.
So Dave and kokonut and all, do you really believe it right that the police were refusing entry to the park for the protesters to remove their stuff? They were doing NOTHING...They were exercising their right to peacabley protest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I will answer for them. YES. They knew it was coming, they had plenty of time to gather their stuff.
 
I have family friends down at OWS. I was on Facebook when occupy Boston posted about OWS....was freaking out about my friends....Their mom (who is my second mom) posted, and said my good friend was in Brooklyn....
her sister (who I do not know too well) is in the park chained to something and refusing to leave...Sophie said they were teargassing and arresting people.
So Dave and kokonut and all, do you really believe it right that the police were refusing entry to the park for the protesters to remove their stuff? They were doing NOTHING...They were exercising their right to peacabley protest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi deafdyke, I am a HUGE lover of free speech and the right to protest political speech is our most important right. Even if I disagree.

Remember Zuccotti park is privately owned, not publicly. I wouldn't like it if people set up tents in my backyard.

Also the many, many regulations that get passed every year including environmental ones, safety, and health violations are also being broken! Kind of ironic because a lot of #OWS seem to love such regulations.

Also at this point they are harming the small businesses in the area. It's time to go.
 
Two things said on the live feed of interest.

1) Protesters complaining about "$600 tents" being trown awy. Irony

2) A few cops chanting "Who's park? Everyone's Park"
 
Hi deafdyke, I am a HUGE lover of free speech and the right to protest political speech is our most important right. Even if I disagree.

Remember Zuccotti park is privately owned, not publicly. I wouldn't like it if people set up tents in my backyard.

Also the many, many regulations that get passed every year including environmental ones, safety, and health violations are also being broken! Kind of ironic because a lot of #OWS seem to love such regulations.

Also at this point they are harming the small businesses in the area. It's time to go.

just a few corrections -

1. Zuccotti Park owner allows them to camp out on the park
2. Mayor Bloomberg has authority along with park owner's cooperation to clear them out, citing health and fire safety hazard
3. Park owner and NYPD have already provided advanced notice with fliers saying “Occupants of Zuccotti should temporarily leave and remove tents and tarps. Protesters can return after the park is cleared.
4. OWS chose to disobey it and encouraged NYPD to disobey the order as well
 
just a few corrections -

1. Zuccotti Park owner allows them to camp out on the park
2. Mayor Bloomberg has authority along with park owner's cooperation to clear them out, citing health and fire safety hazard
3. Park owner and NYPD have already provided advanced notice with fliers saying “Occupants of Zuccotti should temporarily leave and remove tents and tarps. Protesters can return after the park is cleared.
4. OWS chose to disobey it and encouraged NYPD to disobey the order as well

All good points to note, Jiro.
 
I have family friends down at OWS. I was on Facebook when occupy Boston posted about OWS....was freaking out about my friends....Their mom (who is my second mom) posted, and said my good friend was in Brooklyn....
her sister (who I do not know too well) is in the park chained to something and refusing to leave...Sophie said they were teargassing and arresting people.
So Dave and kokonut and all, do you really believe it right that the police were refusing entry to the park for the protesters to remove their stuff? They were doing NOTHING...They were exercising their right to peacabley protest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

um...... perhaps you might want to go down there yourself and see it for yourself with your own eyes.

The question is - do you really believe they were exercising their rights to protest peacefully? if so - then why did her sister has to chain herself to something? why did police get rough on them and arrest people?

I know how it works and what should work. I've seen protests all the time for decades. Heck I live next to it! I can tell you that NYPD does not arrest people who are lawfully protesting peacefully and are complying with NYPD and city ordinances.

I'm not a fan of civil disobedience like this and it should be strongly discouraged because we're at the stage where things can be resolved in a civilized way at courts, podiums, internet, and tv. if they have no patience to change our corrupted system in a civilized manner, then we have no patience to listen to their complaint either.

now this is how I view them as -
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Mayor Bloomberg's statement regarding OWS clean-up. I 100% support it.

Via BNO News: FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE - Pastebin.com
Via BNO News:

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

November 15, 2011
No. 410
www.nyc.gov

STATEMENT OF MAYOR MICHAEL R. BLOOMBERG ON CLEARING AND RE-OPENING OF ZUCCOTTI PARK

“At one o’clock this morning, the New York City Police Department and the owners of Zuccotti Park notified protestors in the park that they had to immediately remove tents, sleeping bags and other belongings, and must follow the park rules if they wished to continue to use it to protest. Many protestors peacefully complied and left. At Brookfield’s request, members of the NYPD and Sanitation Department assisted in removing any remaining tents and sleeping bags. This action was taken at this time of day to reduce the risk of confrontation in the park, and to minimize disruption to the surrounding neighborhood.

“Protestors were asked to temporarily leave the park while this occurred, and have been told that they will be free to return to the park once Brookfield finishes cleaning it later morning. Protestors – and the general public – are welcome there to exercise their First Amendment rights, and otherwise enjoy the park, but will not be allowed to use tents, sleeping bags, or tarps and, going forward, must follow all park rules.

“The law that created Zuccotti Park required that it be open for the public to enjoy for passive recreation 24 hours a day. Ever since the occupation began, that law has not been complied with, as the park has been taken over by protestors, making it unavailable to anyone else.

“From the beginning, I have said that the City had two principal goals: guaranteeing public health and safety, and guaranteeing the protestors’ First Amendment rights.

“But when those two goals clash, the health and safety of the public and our first responders must be the priority.

“That is why, several weeks ago the City acted to remove generators and fuel that posed a fire hazard from the park.

“I have become increasingly concerned – as had the park’s owner, Brookfield Properties – that the occupation was coming to pose a health and fire safety hazard to the protestors and to the surrounding community. We have been in constant contact with Brookfield and yesterday they requested that the City assist it in enforcing the no sleeping and camping rules in the park. But make no mistake – the final decision to act was mine.

“The park had become covered in tents and tarps, making it next to impossible to safely navigate for the public, and for first responders who are responsible for guaranteeing public safety. The dangers posed were evident last week when an EMT was injured as protestors attempted to prevent him and several police officers from helping a mentally ill man who was menacing others. As an increasing number of large tents and other structures have been erected, these dangers have increased. It has become increasingly difficult even to monitor activity in the park to protect the protestors and the public, and the proliferation of tents and other obstructions has created an increasing fire hazard that had to be addressed.

“Some have argued to allow the protestors to stay in the park indefinitely – others have suggested we just wait for winter and hope the cold weather drove the protestors away – but inaction was not an option. I could not wait for someone in the park to get killed or to injure another first responder before acting. Others have cautioned against action because enforcing our laws might be used by some protestors as a pretext for violence – but we must never be afraid to insist on compliance with our laws.

“Unfortunately, the park was becoming a place where people came not to protest, but rather to break laws, and in some cases, to harm others. There have been reports of businesses being threatened and complaints about noise and unsanitary conditions that have seriously impacted the quality of life for residents and businesses in this now-thriving neighborhood. The majority of protestors have been peaceful and responsible. But an unfortunate minority have not been – and as the number of protestors has grown, this has created an intolerable situation.

“No right is absolute and with every right comes responsibilities. The First Amendment gives every New Yorker the right to speak out – but it does not give anyone the right to sleep in a park or otherwise take it over to the exclusion of others – nor does it permit anyone in our society to live outside the law. There is no ambiguity in the law here – the First Amendment protects speech – it does not protect the use of tents and sleeping bags to take over a public space.

“Protestors have had two months to occupy the park with tents and sleeping bags. Now they will have to occupy the space with the power of their arguments.

“Let me conclude by thanking the NYPD, FDNY, and the Department of Sanitation for their professionalism earlier this morning. Thank you.”
 
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Ill bet you the occupy protests will go away soon. It will be too cold to be outside. No protests lasts forever.
 
I have family friends down at OWS. I was on Facebook when occupy Boston posted about OWS....was freaking out about my friends....Their mom (who is my second mom) posted, and said my good friend was in Brooklyn....
her sister (who I do not know too well) is in the park chained to something and refusing to leave...Sophie said they were teargassing and arresting people.
So Dave and kokonut and all, do you really believe it right that the police were refusing entry to the park for the protesters to remove their stuff? They were doing NOTHING...They were exercising their right to peacabley protest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There is a limit to "peaceably" protest (especially in the case of not having a permit to protest) and that this limit was a time limit. They made their point. The park does not belong to them. It is a privately-owned park (for Zuccotti park, that is). They were duly informed ahead of time that this was coming.
 
Numerous health problems, assaults, and finally a rape was the last straw for our Mayor at Occupy Philly. Time to go back to the suburbs and their pampered lives...

people who lost jobs and homes are not living pampered lives.
 
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