Will the United States giving enough aid?
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Cheri, this involves 12 countries and possibly 100,000 deaths. It will take many many years to recover emotionally, financially, mentally and physically from this unspeakable act of massive destruction.
I believe Bush should cut down on squandering our fortune on Iraq and other future wars he will claim that are justified both legally and morally and focus on goodwill of the Earth which includes assisting Asia into getting back to normalcy. But the whole world needs to do this too, not just USA.
I believe Bush should cut down on squandering our fortune on Iraq and other future wars he will claim that are justified both legally and morally and focus on goodwill of the Earth which includes assisting Asia into getting back to normalcy. But the whole world needs to do this too, not just USA.
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Now its at 113.000.
Why is Spain giving 60 million whereas US will only give out 35 million to the aid?
Why didn't Bush fly down on Monday to offer condolences? He's pushed the Muslim population further away with his slow reaction and lack ofsympathy.
Bush blew the oopportunity as always.
Bush lacks a few brain cells, IMO.
Why is Spain giving 60 million whereas US will only give out 35 million to the aid?
Why didn't Bush fly down on Monday to offer condolences? He's pushed the Muslim population further away with his slow reaction and lack ofsympathy.
Bush blew the oopportunity as always.
Bush lacks a few brain cells, IMO.
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Actually, he isn't missing any brain cells... he had none to begin with!Meg said:
Yes, Bush shouldn't have wasted his money on the war. Today, we're still fighting and losing more men every day in Iraq. It isn't ever going to end as long as Bush is president. It might keep going until Bush decides to make Iraq part of the United States. :roll:
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Yes, it comes out of our taxes. However, he's not touching our taxes or doing anything with our taxes until it's too late. Sure, Clinton raised taxes... but he paid off a lot with those taxes.shezzbeav said:
It's like a credit card. A good credit card user would get a $5,000 credit card and pay off as much as he or she can as soon as he or she gets the statement in the mail. A bad credit card user would keep using the credit card until it is maxed out.
Imagine this...
The president has a credit card that has no limit. Every month, he gets statements in the mail. By looking at those statements, he can determine how much he needs to pay to cover those charges. If he needs the help of Americans, he can raise taxes when he feels it's necessary. Of course, those tax increases would be minor since he's doing it as he goes along. However, Bush is doing it the other way. He's taking this credit card and going, "Put it on my credit card!" to everything he comes across. When he gets the monthly statements, he just files them away and lets the next president deal with it. As a result, we've got 4 to 8 years worth of debt that Bush has never asked us to help with. When the next president comes in and realizes that the debt seriously needs to be paid off, he will have no choice but to raise our taxes dramatically. With a good president, we pay a steady up and down increase in our taxes from somewhere between 8% to 10% since we're helping out monthly. A bad president will leave the taxes at 8% for 8 years. Since we're not steadily paying our tax increases between 8% and 10% every month, the extra 1% to 2% gets carried on to the next month. 4 years is 48 months. At 1% a month that's been carried over for 4 years, we could end up getting slammed with a 48% tax increase. That's 56% of our money going to taxes every month! Argh! I'm afraid to mention what would happen if Bush did this for his full two terms... EIGHT YEARS!
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I agree and I don't believe it would happen any sooner, since Bush is soo into the Iraq and the war, he forgot there are more that needs to spend the money on but not only for the American people but for others as well...
Remember he is only doing this to make his father proud of him... :thumbd:
^ Did my sister just said that? I better stay off of medication.
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Our rich american should donate their money. Our governemnt should donate little $ compared with rich people at our country. It should be done like that way.
Mommyof3 said:
President Bush should focus on American people and animals who are homeless at the shelters. They do not have any medical insurance, food, heat, beds, etc...
I am so tired of Bush focus on Iraq billion dollars waste of our fucking tax payers !!
I agree with everyone's feedbacks. :P
I don't like the way the Government waste money, but I would not complain if they spend 1 billion to aid Thailand right now. Somebody get Bush and Rice a wake up call so they will know what to do, otherwise they will still be studing the situation a month or two from today..
I don't like the way the Government waste money, but I would not complain if they spend 1 billion to aid Thailand right now. Somebody get Bush and Rice a wake up call so they will know what to do, otherwise they will still be studing the situation a month or two from today..
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Don't forget that U.S. aid is not limited to cash contributions. Our military are providing emergency services also. Deploying ships and aircraft costs millions.
"Six U.S. Air Force C-130 cargo planes, loaded with relief supplies, are on standby in Japan awaiting orders to fly to Thailand, Pentagon officials said Monday.
A public affairs official said the planes are expected to depart Yokota Air Base between 3 a.m. and 5 a.m. ET Tuesday to take basic food, shelter, and medical supplies to Utaphao, Thailand.
The United States also has two Navy ships in the area, the aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln and the amphibious assault ship USS Bonhomme Richard.
Both have medical facilities and helicopters that could be used in relief efforts, a Pentagon spokesman told CNN.
Navy P-3 Orion surveillance planes have been deployed from Kadena Air Base to Utaphao.
The planes will be used to conduct 'operations,' a U.S. Navy official said."
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/12/27/un.tsunami/
"Six U.S. Air Force C-130 cargo planes, loaded with relief supplies, are on standby in Japan awaiting orders to fly to Thailand, Pentagon officials said Monday.
A public affairs official said the planes are expected to depart Yokota Air Base between 3 a.m. and 5 a.m. ET Tuesday to take basic food, shelter, and medical supplies to Utaphao, Thailand.
The United States also has two Navy ships in the area, the aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln and the amphibious assault ship USS Bonhomme Richard.
Both have medical facilities and helicopters that could be used in relief efforts, a Pentagon spokesman told CNN.
Navy P-3 Orion surveillance planes have been deployed from Kadena Air Base to Utaphao.
The planes will be used to conduct 'operations,' a U.S. Navy official said."
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/12/27/un.tsunami/
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WASHINGTON, Dec. 29, 2004 — Three Marine Corps disaster relief assessment teams are on the ground or about to arrive in Thailand, Sri Lanka and Indonesia, and at least two P-3 aircraft are conducting initial reconnaissance of damaged areas as a wide range of other Defense Department assets works its way to tsunami-stricken regions of the Indian Ocean.
U.S. Pacific Command has marshaled assets ranging from carrier strike groups to water purification ships to aircraft to provide emergency support for victims following the Dec. 26 earthquake and subsequent tsunamis, Marine Corps Lt. Gen. James Conway, director of operations for the Joint Staff, told reporters today at a special State Department briefing.
Navy Adm. Tom Fargo, commander of U.S. Pacific Command, stood up Joint Task Force 536 to coordinate U.S. relief efforts, Conway said. A forward command element has moved into a military base at Utapao, Thailand, and the headquarters is in the process of deploying. Marine Corps Lt. Gen. Rusty Blackman, commander of the 3rd Marine Expeditionary Force based in Okinawa, will command the joint task force.
Meanwhile, the first of three Marine disaster relief assessment teams being sent to the region arrived in Thailand earlier today and a second team was due to arrive in Sri Lanka this afternoon. A third team will arrive in Indonesia Dec. 30, Conway said.
In addition, U.S. Pacific Command has committed six C-130 aircraft and nine P-3 aircraft to the relief effort. Conway said all the C-130s and four of the P-3s will operate out of Utapao. Five other P-3 aircraft will operate out of Diego Garcia.
Conway said at least two of the P-3s already are conducting observation and reconnaissance of damaged sites.
In addition, the USS Abraham Lincoln carrier strike group, which was in Hong Kong when the earthquake and tsunamis struck, has been diverted to the Gulf of Thailand to support recovery operations, Conway said.
Aircraft from the strike group are checking the Malacca Straits for debris before the strike group transits the area. "If it is clear — and early reports indicate it might be — the five ships associated with that carrier strike group will take position off the island of Sumatra," Conway said.
Conway said the Lincoln carrier strike group has 12 helicopters embarked that he said could be "extremely valuable" in recovery missions.
An additional 25 helicopters are aboard USS Bonhomme Richard, headed to the Bay of Bengal. Conway said the expeditionary strike group was in Guam and is forgoing port visits in Guam and Singapore and expects to arrive in the Bay of Bengal by Jan. 7.
Conway said the strike group, with its seven ships, 2,100 Marines and 1,400 sailors aboard, also has four Cobra helicopters that will be instrumented in reconnaissance efforts.
Because fresh water is one of the greatest needs in the region, Fargo has ordered seven ships — each capable of producing 90,000 gallons of fresh water a day — to the region. Conway said five of these ships are pre-positioned in Guam and two will come from Diego Garcia.
A field hospital ship pre-positioned in Guam would also be ordered to the region, depending on findings of the disaster relief assessment teams and need, Conway said.
The U.S. State Department is leading U.S. support for the relief effort. Marc Grossman, undersecretary of state for political affairs, is leading the U.S. task force formed today to respond to the crisis.
Grossman said the task force will work with the regional core group, made up of Australia, Japan and India, to provide coordination and assistance. It also will help coordinate the interagency response in Washington, D.C., and encourage additional international support for the relief effort, he said.
"This is going to be a giant international requirement. Although we make a substantial contribution — more than anyone else in these emergencies — this is certainly not for us to do alone," Grossman said. "It is going to take a worldwide effort. We would expect and hope and believe the world will respond."
But Andrew Natsios, administrator of the U.S. Agency for International Development, stressed that "the principal responders in humanitarian emergencies are the people themselves who live there." This, he said, includes local officials who are in charge of responding and the national disaster response teams "who speak the language, have the maps, know the transportation system."
Natsios acknowledged that these groups can sometimes get overwhelmed by the scope of a crisis and need help.
"We need to not think that these people are all paralyzed and can't help themselves, and we go in there and save them all," Natsios said. "We know that most of the best work is done by the people themselves. Our job is to support the people in the cities and in the villages who will begin the reconstruction process. So we are not there to tell them what to do, but to ask them how we can help."
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Dec2004/n12292004_2004122905.html
U.S. Pacific Command has marshaled assets ranging from carrier strike groups to water purification ships to aircraft to provide emergency support for victims following the Dec. 26 earthquake and subsequent tsunamis, Marine Corps Lt. Gen. James Conway, director of operations for the Joint Staff, told reporters today at a special State Department briefing.
Navy Adm. Tom Fargo, commander of U.S. Pacific Command, stood up Joint Task Force 536 to coordinate U.S. relief efforts, Conway said. A forward command element has moved into a military base at Utapao, Thailand, and the headquarters is in the process of deploying. Marine Corps Lt. Gen. Rusty Blackman, commander of the 3rd Marine Expeditionary Force based in Okinawa, will command the joint task force.
Meanwhile, the first of three Marine disaster relief assessment teams being sent to the region arrived in Thailand earlier today and a second team was due to arrive in Sri Lanka this afternoon. A third team will arrive in Indonesia Dec. 30, Conway said.
In addition, U.S. Pacific Command has committed six C-130 aircraft and nine P-3 aircraft to the relief effort. Conway said all the C-130s and four of the P-3s will operate out of Utapao. Five other P-3 aircraft will operate out of Diego Garcia.
Conway said at least two of the P-3s already are conducting observation and reconnaissance of damaged sites.
In addition, the USS Abraham Lincoln carrier strike group, which was in Hong Kong when the earthquake and tsunamis struck, has been diverted to the Gulf of Thailand to support recovery operations, Conway said.
Aircraft from the strike group are checking the Malacca Straits for debris before the strike group transits the area. "If it is clear — and early reports indicate it might be — the five ships associated with that carrier strike group will take position off the island of Sumatra," Conway said.
Conway said the Lincoln carrier strike group has 12 helicopters embarked that he said could be "extremely valuable" in recovery missions.
An additional 25 helicopters are aboard USS Bonhomme Richard, headed to the Bay of Bengal. Conway said the expeditionary strike group was in Guam and is forgoing port visits in Guam and Singapore and expects to arrive in the Bay of Bengal by Jan. 7.
Conway said the strike group, with its seven ships, 2,100 Marines and 1,400 sailors aboard, also has four Cobra helicopters that will be instrumented in reconnaissance efforts.
Because fresh water is one of the greatest needs in the region, Fargo has ordered seven ships — each capable of producing 90,000 gallons of fresh water a day — to the region. Conway said five of these ships are pre-positioned in Guam and two will come from Diego Garcia.
A field hospital ship pre-positioned in Guam would also be ordered to the region, depending on findings of the disaster relief assessment teams and need, Conway said.
The U.S. State Department is leading U.S. support for the relief effort. Marc Grossman, undersecretary of state for political affairs, is leading the U.S. task force formed today to respond to the crisis.
Grossman said the task force will work with the regional core group, made up of Australia, Japan and India, to provide coordination and assistance. It also will help coordinate the interagency response in Washington, D.C., and encourage additional international support for the relief effort, he said.
"This is going to be a giant international requirement. Although we make a substantial contribution — more than anyone else in these emergencies — this is certainly not for us to do alone," Grossman said. "It is going to take a worldwide effort. We would expect and hope and believe the world will respond."
But Andrew Natsios, administrator of the U.S. Agency for International Development, stressed that "the principal responders in humanitarian emergencies are the people themselves who live there." This, he said, includes local officials who are in charge of responding and the national disaster response teams "who speak the language, have the maps, know the transportation system."
Natsios acknowledged that these groups can sometimes get overwhelmed by the scope of a crisis and need help.
"We need to not think that these people are all paralyzed and can't help themselves, and we go in there and save them all," Natsios said. "We know that most of the best work is done by the people themselves. Our job is to support the people in the cities and in the villages who will begin the reconstruction process. So we are not there to tell them what to do, but to ask them how we can help."
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Dec2004/n12292004_2004122905.html
