Who Make Me An Anti-christ??!?

[Cheri]

Simple, Catholic don't disciple to Jesus Christ. Catholic idols Virgin Mary then Jesus Christ. Catholic believes in work will make Jesus Christ save you or good deeds vs bad deeds.

I am sorry but you are wrong My hearing sister and her family are Catholic and they do not believe the way you mention above. Catholic believes in Marriage and do not believe in abortion, just like Christen believes but more strict than Christen.

Tousi Just speaking of Reba and her alone; I cannot believe that over her nearly 2,000 posts, she is still misjudged, misunderstood, villified, etc. Looks to me like some persons are lacking the gift of discernment.

We do not have to agree, therefore I do not have a lack of misunderstand, misjudge. :::strung::: I rather not get into it with you, You not worth my time.

 

[Gemtun]

Simple, Catholic don't disciple to Jesus Christ. Catholic idols Virgin Mary then Jesus Christ. Catholic believes in work will make Jesus Christ save you or good deeds vs bad deeds.

For example, there is Orthodox Jewish, Conservative Jewish and Reformed Jewish sections.

That goes for Catholics too. I do not agree with Orthodox Catholics. There is a growing movement within Catholic Church to focus more on Jesus Christ than Virgin Mary. I have gone to a few Cursillio retreats that were created to help Catholics become more closer to Jesus's teachings, etc.

Not all Catholics are the same. My ex is what you call Orthodox Catholic and I dont agree with some of his beliefs. Yet I get labeled as nonChristian, etc. It is unfair.

So I resent it when everyone lumps me with every single other Catholics.

 

[Crazymanw00t]

For example, there is Orthodox Jewish, Conservative Jewish and Reformed Jewish sections.

That goes for Catholics too. I do not agree with Orthodox Catholics. There is a growing movement within Catholic Church to focus more on Jesus Christ than Virgin Mary. I have gone to a few Cursillio retreats that were created to help Catholics become more closer to Jesus's teachings, etc.

Not all Catholics are the same. My ex is what you call Orthodox Catholic and I dont agree with some of his beliefs. Yet I get labeled as nonChristian, etc. It is unfair.

So I resent it when everyone lumps me with every single other Catholics.

That's is good news for me to hear.

I will ask you some more deep questions later. Right now I am going off.

 

[Y]

Just speaking of Reba and her alone; I cannot believe that over her nearly 2,000 posts, she is still misjudged, misunderstood, villified, etc. Looks to me like some persons are lacking the gift of discernment.

This is a nice refreshing thing to hear something
more positives, rather than these negatives

Anything negatives are wasting my time

 

[Nusentinsaino]

That was uncalled for, and how can we ignore it when it right in the open forum! :roll:

I was pointing that to those who will not read my post because it was too long, Im glad that you read it.

Then it show you don't believe in God at all....

Yes i am an atheist.

God is the ONE who create this earth, so I see no point of hating that term!

If god created the earth, then why not say "God bless the world" instead of only one nation like America?

That's what we believe in, so you rather to see most women out there murder their babies just cause they don't want it?.. :roll:

I just believe that its the woman's choice... All of my female friends and female teachers agree that its the womans choice for abortion, Not the men's choice. Besides, This world is overpopulationed.

Hate? I don't have any " hate " in me...why don't you take a good look at yourself since you are the one of those people who actually hate Christian people just cause of what they believe in!...

I think you misread my post, Or i messed up trying to describe... But i was pointing out that some christians are aginst Gay people... so thats prejuctice isnt it? That is hate. Im not saying that christians have hate in general. They are loving people i know.

That not freedom of speech, that is freedom of abuse, and therefore it DOES offtened me!!!!

How is it freedom of abuse, Im not sure what you mean...

I'm getting to the point where I'm fed up with all the judging, hating and fingerpointing, so before anyone start putting the blame on only to the Christians why don't you take a good look at what you are doing yourself there....

You are actually right about that, I should think before i judge... but at least you got my point you know? I like you angel, and i respect what you believe and i apoligize if i offended you in any way. Forgive me.

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Reba, Crazyman and Cheri.. Sorry if my long post has offeneded yall, I looked back and read it over... and i realized that i typed some exgarrations and some cuss words, I apoligize.

Reba, Its interesting that you are offended if someone insults some greater God, Since im an atheist, I know that God does not exist but it is still interesting to study the people who believe in God. I do read the bible and i do study it sometimes, Why would i be an atheist if i dont know stuff about God? Im sorry if i offended you Reba by using the word "Faggot" but i was making a point. Its just what i believe, Since if i believe that God does not exist then theres no point of comparing God to my mother being a whore or my father being a faggot. I would be pissed off, But you know my point of not beliving in god? You got a good point though Reba.

Crazyman, What you said is what i respect... I disagree with you - No offence but i extremely disgree that the government should be involved with religion of any type. It fears me and it can lead to Holy Wars and stuff... Maybe im wrong but i know its a folly to have religion in polictics and government. I know you're saying that its a good idea to have religion with the government so that we can have our good... But think about it Crazyman... Most polictial men have crazy minds, and they are humans therefore , capable to do something terrible or horrible to us.

 

[Reba]

OOCH! I would be very hesitant to tell a Catholic what they believe, or what they should believe. ..

I think the key is, people become Christians as individuals, within specific religions or without. People can only come to Christ one at a time.

I must bluntly say that I believe some churches/religions are not preaching salvation by Christ only. But I would never judge whether or not a particular individual is saved; only God can see the heart. We can judge actions and behaviors, but not hearts. Also, some people are truly saved but have not yet been properly discipled, or spiritually matured.

Some Baptists will go to Heaven; some will not.
Some Catholics will go to Heaven; some will not.
Some Protestants will go to Heaven; some will not.

All in all, when the time comes, I think we will be very surprised about who we see in Heaven and who is missing.

 

[Gemtun]

I think the key is, people become Christians as individuals, within specific religions or without. People can only come to Christ one at a time.

I must bluntly say that I believe some churches/religions are not preaching salvation by Christ only. But I would never judge whether or not a particular individual is saved; only God can see the heart. We can judge actions and behaviors, but not hearts. Also, some people are truly saved but have not yet been properly discipled, or spiritually matured.

Some Baptists will go to Heaven; some will not.
Some Catholics will go to Heaven; some will not.
Some Protestants will go to Heaven; some will not.

All in all, when the time comes, I think we will be very surprised about who we see in Heaven and who is missing.

Excellent posting!!!!!!!

 

[Gemtun]

OOCH! I would be very hesitant to tell a Catholic what they believe, or what they should believe. I know that there are many, many denominations of Catholics. They run a broad spectrum in their doctrines. Some even combine their catholicism with Tribal pagan beliefs and practices. Some come so close to mainline protestant beliefs that it is hard to tell the diference. And some are rooted deeply in either Roman or Greek orthodoxy. I am a protestant, but even in my own denomination I see pagan practices and idolitry that offends me.

You said it better than I could. Thanks!!!!

 

[Vance]

I think the key is, people become Christians as individuals, within specific religions or without. People can only come to Christ one at a time.

I must bluntly say that I believe some churches/religions are not preaching salvation by Christ only. But I would never judge whether or not a particular individual is saved; only God can see the heart. We can judge actions and behaviors, but not hearts. Also, some people are truly saved but have not yet been properly discipled, or spiritually matured.

Some Baptists will go to Heaven; some will not.
Some Catholics will go to Heaven; some will not.
Some Protestants will go to Heaven; some will not.

All in all, when the time comes, I think we will be very surprised about who we see in Heaven and who is missing.

Are you sitting on your chair? And is your heart in good condition?

I have been avoiding this topic like a 'black death' disease or something but you know, it is my first (and probably last time) for me to agree with you on this 'religious' subject (your post that I quoted above).

Very good post.

 

[Angel]

Nusentinsaino,

Thank you for the nice respond and of course I forgive you, please accept my apologize as well too... ...

 

[XBGMER]

What is going on here?? Here is battle words eachothers.. wow..

Bewitched and CKfarbes,

Please, please, please calm down and solve those misunderstanding posts. Please respect each other when we have different beliefs.

***keep smile on your birthday today ***, Bewitched.

Shake the hand, please.....

Liebling, Yeah I am with you about this.. that is exactly i really want to be solve with bewitched these misunderstanding posts or mis-communcation eachothers.. Thank you for being concern between her and me..

CK Farbes,


Wow....you are feeling that I am judging you. I don't know what you are trying to get at. I am perplexed by you using 'my verses' what I am trying to say is, it could sounds like you are controlling which you are not. Sometimes we need to be careful how we use term in our sentence.

How ironic...

I bet that you acts as just being prefect christian around, the verses is not live in you for rest.. you just walk to judge others in your own eyes of bad apples and good trees.. get it?


You judged me harshly. Tsk tsk. I thought that you were saying you are not one of person who judge the others. It doesnt make any sense.

I was simply asking you what did this come from " listen to my verses". What I am saying is to be careful.

What verses are you talking about? "the verses is not live in your for rest". Wow...You made it sounds like God don't love me???


You were implying that I was trying to be a perfect christian. Tell you what....I try to be a good person... yet I still make mistake. So I must admit, I m not a perfect christan.

Yes I am walking around with bad or good apples... guess what? I can choose what I want to do the bad or the good. But you are no position to decide who I am. God does. So, don't you get it, pal?

Bewitched, Yes I was so upset by you said "You being misunderstanding from the bible. that how to judge others. I never throw my own judges on you..

If I was in your shoes, I would say to ckfarbes, I know your belief and my belief are different on our perpesctive, yet I like to listen your verses from bible what is your truly belief"

Here, I did not sure if I judged on you by my sayings.. I want you accpet my truly apologize..

Bewitch, I know that we are mature and respects.. I hope someday, we have share our verses by bible without judges.. Just forget the yesterday or pasts.. I dont want to have being cold or hate between us eacothers on various threads in future.. just be peace

Thank Liebling..

Sabrina I disgree with you and Oceanbreeze, Ckfarbes has every right to vent out his feelings, Everyone here does, What about the thread about Bobby? Just because you guys can do it and he cannot? Don't make no sense let's be fair here. He did not mention names therefore no reason to lock this thread. Oceanbreeze, you need to stop being so bossy. If you don't like this thread don't bother reading it.

Thank you again for sayings of some supports... I agree with your saying of "Oceanbreeze, you need to stop being so bossy".. Because He is not mod on alldeaf. If he complaint, he should pm to mods whoever that he dislike my thread.. than his saying's own nasty on this here..

I agree. I would call you an atheist instead of an anti-christ....

Nusentinsaino, I don't mind that you put "an atheist" on me as label.. I must tell you, Nusentinsaino, I did read the atheist book, some I agreed with. But my answer is what my belief, I believing that God or angels is not in heaven or space at all But I strongly believed that God/ or angel is a man, an angle/ or God was manifest in the flesh["1 timothy 3:16"]. Since Satan is an angel.. You know there people who won't believe that Satan live in me if i claimed that..

Your questions is good..

I love God. It hurts me to hear people offend His name. Suppose someone said to you, "your mother is a whore" or "your father is a faggot"? Would that bother you? That is the offense.

tell me why Moses did curse on israel of people when they who came out of egypt? all prophets in the scripture, said that the beast would be curse against God, against name, and against congergations. all jews accursed Paul, they said that this is blasphemey, because paul was not followed law of moses..

I think the key is, people become Christians as individuals, within specific religions or without. People can only come to Christ one at a time.

I must bluntly say that I believe some churches/religions are not preaching salvation by Christ only. But I would never judge whether or not a particular individual is saved; only God can see the heart. We can judge actions and behaviors, but not hearts. Also, some people are truly saved but have not yet been properly discipled, or spiritually matured.

Some Baptists will go to Heaven; some will not.
Some Catholics will go to Heaven; some will not.
Some Protestants will go to Heaven; some will not.

All in all, when the time comes, I think we will be very surprised about who we see in Heaven and who is missing.

Not again.. But i really found something interested in you talk about go heaven, you want to wash people's mind that who able go to heaven unless accpet jesus christ first. how did you know that you would go heaven but not me go heaven?? How you can prove me that you go heaven??

Ahh, you said whoever will go hell because who did not learn and accpet christ.. you put your own qoute is very controvery yourself..

DID all prophets and Moses TELL his people or others, saying " You will go hell or You can't go heaven" ?? I notice you borrow as your favorite qoute from new testment.. you need to read old testment more than new testment.. I read bible hundred times.. I noticed in old testment all prophets begged his people repeat and turned back to his father of ancestors on Lord after who rebelled and worshipped other god of foreigners. If they did not repeated themselves.. All prophets told his peoples who would go into captives and selling themslves for slaves. History repeated itself.. nothing change.. Like jesus told his disciple that his predicted that his people will go into captives after Roman empire fallen by the hands of another enemies. You know why?? Israel people who worshipped roman's culture, learn roman's way, it make them forget who they are nor not know even their father of ancentors through old and new testments are same and repeats of history.. that how eneimes threw israel people out from land of their father , EVEN still today..nothing changes.. thank you..

 

[XBGMER]

My point is that if I read the latin book of culture or langange.. whatever.. then I done with latin book. Why should I announce everyone even include latin people, that I am THE LATIN and CULTURE LANGUAGE after I done read the autor book by latin or whatever? .. Once I read the latin or africa or gremany book which not meaning to make me names, speaking languages whatever i wanted what nationitly or language I am.. That why I refuse to announce everyone, even included christians that I am christ because i read bible..

 

[Chrysanthe]

Bewitched, Yes I was so upset by you said "You being misunderstanding from the bible. that how to judge others. I never throw my own judges on you..

If I was in your shoes, I would say to ckfarbes, I know your belief and my belief are different on our perpesctive, yet I like to listen your verses from bible what is your truly belief"

Here, I did not sure if I judged on you by my sayings.. I want you accpet my truly apologize..

Bewitch, I know that we are mature and respects.. I hope someday, we have share our verses by bible without judges.. Just forget the yesterday or pasts.. I dont want to have being cold or hate between us eacothers on various threads in future.. just be peace

Thank Liebling..


then I rest my case. *the case is closed*

 

[XBGMER]

Bewitched, Yes I was so upset by you said "You being misunderstanding from the bible. that how to judge others. I never throw my own judges on you..

If I was in your shoes, I would say to ckfarbes, I know your belief and my belief are different on our perpesctive, yet I like to listen your verses from bible what is your truly belief"

Here, I did not sure if I judged on you by my sayings.. I want you accpet my truly apologize..

Bewitch, I know that we are mature and respects.. I hope someday, we have share our verses by bible without judges.. Just forget the yesterday or pasts.. I dont want to have being cold or hate between us eacothers on various threads in future.. just be peace

Thank Liebling..


then I rest my case. *the case is closed*

Bewitched, I am not grief or hurt.. I expect that you know where you stand at. I wish that Good luck with your life around you..

 

[Chrysanthe]

Bewitched, I am not grief or hurt.. I expect that you know where you stand at. I wish that Good luck with your life around you..

I never said you were greiving or hurting..... and what do you mean you expect me I know where I stand? It sounds like you think I dont know anything. CK Ck.... I am not stupid... I definitely know where I stand. I dont need a babysitter to tell me what to do. But thanks. Have a good life.


*BOOM*

 

[Crazymanw00t]

Some Baptists will go to Heaven; some will not.
Some Catholics will go to Heaven; some will not.
Some Protestants will go to Heaven; some will not.

I disagree with that.

All religious other than Christian = very extremely few will go Heaven and Many will not

Christian - Some go and Some not
Must have Faith in Jesus Christ, Disciple, Surrender their life for Jesus Christ's want and Repentace from Sin. Those will go.

Not many people do like that.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

I disagree with that.

All religious other than Christian = very extremely few will go Heaven and Many will not

Christian - Some go and Some not
Must have Faith in Jesus Christ, Disciple, Surrender their life for Jesus Christ's want and Repentace from Sin. Those will go.

Not many people do like that.

I´m also disagree with you, too.

 

[jazzy]

I disagree with that.

All religious other than Christian = very extremely few will go Heaven and Many will not

Christian - Some go and Some not
Must have Faith in Jesus Christ, Disciple, Surrender their life for Jesus Christ's want and Repentace from Sin. Those will go.

Not many people do like that.

This is your own personal belief.

 

[Oceanbreeze]

This is your own personal belief.

Agreed, Jazzy. I'm still struggling to understand why it's "wrong" to believe something other than Christianity. Why is it that only Christians will go to Heaven, and others who believe in other belief systems will not? This seems very exclusionary, and I also believe it to be wrong.

Personally, I question my belief in whether there is actually a Heaven and a Hell, also. I am wondering if there is just a nothingness when we die. But, I admit, it's comforting to me to believe that my loved ones who have passed on are someplace "safe". I really don't know the answers to my questions. Also, there's a few relatives of mine who did some very wrong things in this life, and were never punished. I have a hope or a want to believe that they are now being punished in the hereafter. So, I don't know. All this is very confusing for a girl who grew up a Baptist.

 

[Crazymanw00t]

Excuse me, Oceanrbeeze

Which part of S Fla are you living in?

On March 9-18, I will be around at Panana City, Fla for Christian Spring Break. www.big-break.com

Maybe you may want to go to that place to learn more deep about Christianity and Jesus Christ.