Who is right, Pelosi or Panetta?

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So? If the Republicans ever catch up with me I might consider joining them. Otherwise, no thanks.

The time for a third national party may be at hand.

whoa. any idea who?
 
Independents vote for Democrats and Republicans alike. Being an "independent voter" does not mean you do not hold the values of either party.
Independents vote for whomever they wish, including Democrats, Republicans, other independents, Libertarians, Green Party, whatever. They aren't limited to Dems and GOP.
 

You may as well be a registered Republican. If your views are 95% Republican and 5% Democratic, I think it's safe to assume that you're going to vote for a Republican more often than a Democrat.
 
Independents vote for whomever they wish, including Democrats, Republicans, other independents, Libertarians, Green Party, whatever. They aren't limited to Dems and GOP.

I'm aware of that. Foxrac said he was an independent voter when you said you weren't Republican. Being Republican does not mean one always has to vote Republican just as being independent does not mean you have to vote for the GOP or the Democrats.
 
You may as well be a registered Republican. If your views are 95% Republican and 5% Democratic, I think it's safe to assume that you're going to vote for a Republican more often than a Democrat.
My views are conservative, which neither party satisfies.
 
Pelosi = just another politician who is as full of shit as the rest of them
 
Yes, she know but torture method was not her decision but Bush Admin. She claimed that she know about waterboarding issues but she didn´t know full and felt that she was being mislead
It doesn't matter if it wasn't her decision, she didn't object to waterboarding, she is as guilty as Bush. She even claimed that she had learned by her aid in the year of 2003 that waterboarding was being used on Abu Zubaydah. I don't think she has a honest bones in her body.

I don't wish to discuss about the other thread, It's locked and there's a reason for it., that's a whole different ball game. This is about Nancy Pelosi.

I really don´t care either Pelosi knew or not as long as she didn´t authortize the torture and torture anyone.
*Gasp* You don't care if she knew and said nothing about it until now???!! :shock:
 
Gee, Reba, I don't know. How do you know that Pelosi is being purposely deceptive, since you are so quick to pronounce her as lying?
 
Where did I exactly said she's guilty of it? I said she should resign because of various of reasons, not solely because of this issue.

Why should she resign if she isn't guilty?
 
Why should she resign if she isn't guilty?

1. making a serious baseless allegation
2. a lousy Speaker of the House
3. a humongous hypocrite
4. if she's so outspoken about this Iraq/Torture issue now, then she should have done something during Bush Administration
5. She has power and enough people to bring down the law on Bush Administration but instead - she blocked the investigations
 
Yea that she is... a hypocrite.
 
1. making a serious baseless allegation

We don't know that it is baseless. Investigation is ongoing.
2. a lousy Speaker of the House
That is nothing more than your personal opinion, and fortunately, there hasn't been an administration yet that made decisions based on your personal opinion.3. a humongous hypocrite
4. if she's so outspoken about this Iraq/Torture issue now, then she should have done something during Bush Administration

Because she claimed that she was not provided with accurrate information regarding the fact that the interrogation techniques had already been used prior to a ruling on their legality. Again, investigation is continuing.5. She has power and enough people to bring down the law on Bush Administration but instead - she blocked the investigations

Again, the investigation is continuing. You have absolutely nothting to substantiate these allegations you are continuing to make.
 
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