What causes AIDS and its outbreak?

[Cheri]

Magatsu, You must not be catholic then. You know nothing about catholic people or what they belive in. We belive in moral and family values. So therefor homosexailty is a deadly grave sin than adultery.

It has nothing to do with being a Catholic and not being a Catholic, It's about Catholic people make judgment upon other people their personal lives for one. Remember the bibles says... Do not judge only God judge. tsk tsk tsk You broke the bible's rules, and Adultery is a sin period, but you not judging those who Adultery you judging the homosexual people.

 

[ravensteve1961]

True the bible has laws made by god. And one of them says marrage is between a man and a woman. For example, God made adam & eve not adam & steve.

 

[posts from hell]

Raven: Just remind yourself not to give out your address. I have this URGE to land one .... well.. I'll stop there.

 

[bbnt]

Well a penis is not for sticking it in a mans asshole. A penis is for taking a piss and inserting it in a womans vagina. My preist made this comment in his sermon. Homosexualty is a terrable disease. But Aids is gods punishment for this immorial sin. The wages of sin is death. In this case homosexualty is a wager too much. And he`s right.

this is so full of crap, it's not even worth an educated response

 

[Malfoyish]

This is in no way directed at anyone in particular...please understand that.

AIDS is contracted by STUPIDITY, if you ask me. Granted, blood transfusions are not included, but ANYONE who would have unprotected sex with someone who may be a carrier of the HIV disease has got to be completely reckless. I do understand - I'm human, so it's really, REALLY easy to give in to temptation and sexual desire, but most people who contract AIDS from sexual intercourse don't even really KNOW their partners very well. So hey, if you're "in the mood," and you are with someone you just met, someone who is out to have a good time, it's always much much MUCH better to WAIT until either you've established a trusting relationship with him or her, or invest in a "novelty" toy that will assist in providing a temporary release. Hey, it's safer.

I think that if we didn't live in such a horny world, a lot of people would be healthier. Granted, more and more people are taking precautions now, but still - KNOW your partner, know their history, know who else they have been with. Their NAMES, too...god! *shaking head*

Bottom line - don't be stupid, protect yourself, and you'll be fine.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Great thread, Magastu!

I would not say that I’m an Expert but I learn a lot from the tips through conference. I visit to conference twice a year to collect any interesting subjects, also parent evenings, too.

Which and when country, first AID is known?
Africa in 1965.
They didn’t pay their attention what the incurable illness is for years.
A lot of African died of AID without realized what the illness is. It's how the scandal was start when Africans carried AID to spread out to Europe and everywhere in the world. There’re investigate where/how/why we get AID from. They said that they don’t think AID would be healing but they still investigate on it. Nobody knows how long it will cure.

Where it comes from?
Kind of Insect bite in Africa………,

No, it has nothing do with homosexually but sex unprotection, blood transfusion, mouth fluid, drug needles, blood, sperm etc like what Meg said in her post.

Easy answer: BLOOD

Any exchange of BLOOD poses very high risk for HIV transmissions.

Some sexual activities can get bloody such as anal sex, intercourse in a very dry vagina or causing little tears in canals, etc.

Semen, vaginal fluids, and saliva carries very little of HIV. In order to get HIV from salvia by itself, it will be like having to drink over 1000 cups of salvia to get it.


Thus, drug needles and blood transfusions carry the highest risks compared to regular sex activities.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

I am wondering about the same thing myself....


Why has more than ten years of AIDS research costing tens of billions of dollars failed to show how or even if HIV causes AIDS or attacks the immune system?


They do research on questions like Have you took drugs such as needles? or are u gay? or How many people you slept with? I know a person who slept with over 200 people has never yet have HIV or AIDS for all that matters. It seems like nobody really knows the answer what cause HIV or AIDS because everyone fail to show what the cause.

True!

 

[Liebling:-)))]

I have heard that before many, many times about people saying, the only way to prevent infection by the virus is to avoid behaviors that place a person at risk for infection, such as sharing needles and having unprotected sex. Remember that story about a young girl who never had sex or shared a needle or did drugs she was infected with HIV, But. She got it from her dentist who was not wearing gloves. She didn't know he was infected with AIDS, And she had to pay a big price that is her life. I mean nobody is safe from getting AIDS no matter what they say.

I got goose pimple when I read your post! :-o

I notice that many butcher, dentist, hospital etc wearing gloves which I thought it protect from infection accord healthy law. I wasn't realized it's also affect AID, too. Oh my dear!

 

[Cheri]

I got goose pimple when I read your post! :-o

I notice that many butcher, dentist, hospital etc wearing gloves which I thought it protect from infection accord healthy law. I wasn't realized it's also affect AID, too. Oh my dear!

Yes they do now, before they didn't I think they changed the law after the young female sued, Now that Doctors and Dentists are required to wear gloves at all times during exam, If you see a doctor not wearing gloves, Tell him/her to wear one. Just for your protection.

 

[Kalista]

this is so full of crap, it's not even worth an educated response

It is not full of crap. It is very sad because two gay men died of AIDS in my hometown. They gave their representation to the High School to explain the students how much they took their risky. Couple gay are so sweet and cherish for other students to not take any risky.

The dry anus which causes bleeding from the intercourse. The gay did get cut on the penis because he was hardly intercourse due to extremely dry in the anus. Then ex parnter got cut from bleeding. I know, it is very gross to explain this but it is fact as true.

Dry virgial and anus are high RISKY !!

 

[Liza]

This is in no way directed at anyone in particular...please understand that.

AIDS is contracted by STUPIDITY, if you ask me. Granted, blood transfusions are not included, but ANYONE who would have unprotected sex with someone who may be a carrier of the HIV disease has got to be completely reckless. I do understand - I'm human, so it's really, REALLY easy to give in to temptation and sexual desire, but most people who contract AIDS from sexual intercourse don't even really KNOW their partners very well. So hey, if you're "in the mood," and you are with someone you just met, someone who is out to have a good time, it's always much much MUCH better to WAIT until either you've established a trusting relationship with him or her, or invest in a "novelty" toy that will assist in providing a temporary release. Hey, it's safer.

I think that if we didn't live in such a horny world, a lot of people would be healthier. Granted, more and more people are taking precautions now, but still - KNOW your partner, know their history, know who else they have been with. Their NAMES, too...god! *shaking head*

Bottom line - don't be stupid, protect yourself, and you'll be fine.

I agree, Malfoyish. It just takes one moment of stupidity... stupidity knows no religion, creed, age, life circumstance, gender, and sexual orientation.

 

[Angel]

I think that if we didn't live in such a horny world, a lot of people would be healthier. Granted, more and more people are taking precautions now, but still - KNOW your partner, know their history, know who else they have been with. Their NAMES, too...god! *shaking head*

*laughing* good one there Malfoyishtoosie, and its true

 

[Vance]

Magatsu, You must not be catholic then. You know nothing about catholic people or what they belive in. We belive in moral and family values. So therefor homosexailty is a deadly grave sin than adultery.

No, no. you are wrong in that case. Adultery is more sin than homosexuality. Can you read the Ten Commandments? No? Ok let me paste what Ten Commandments said: (It is in Catholic, I used it for you)

1. I am the Lord thy God. Thou shalt not have strange gods before me.
2. Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.
3. Remember thou keep the Sabbath Day.
4. Honor thy Father and thy Mother.
5. Thou shalt not kill.
6. Thou shalt not commit adultery.
7. Thou shalt not steal.
8. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.
9. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife.
10. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's goods.

Tell me where is the homosexuality law in Ten Commandments? ZERO. NONE. BLANK. NADA. NIL. VOID. ZIP. So therefore Adultery is more sin than homosexuality. You and your idiotic priest failed. Let me repeat: God and Jesus CLEARLY said that you, especially you and your ignorant priest CANNOT judge others or impose your beliefs on others.

True the bible has laws made by god. And one of them says marrage is between a man and a woman. For example, God made adam & eve not adam & steve.

oh? you read the bible? Why, congratulations! But you or your ignorant priest didn't follow what the bible said. Let me show what the bible said:

Do not speak evil against one another, brethren. He that speaks evil against a brother or judges his brother, speaks evil against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. 12 There is one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you that you judge your neighbor? - Jame 4:11

Get it bub? I sure hope so. ravensteve1961, from now, I will ignore your comments in this topic completely, you kept ranting without any kind of evidences or facts to back you up. I already used the facts to back me up about homosexual does not cause AIDS.

 

[Vance]

This is in no way directed at anyone in particular...please understand that.

AIDS is contracted by STUPIDITY, if you ask me. Granted, blood transfusions are not included, but ANYONE who would have unprotected sex with someone who may be a carrier of the HIV disease has got to be completely reckless. I do understand - I'm human, so it's really, REALLY easy to give in to temptation and sexual desire, but most people who contract AIDS from sexual intercourse don't even really KNOW their partners very well. So hey, if you're "in the mood," and you are with someone you just met, someone who is out to have a good time, it's always much much MUCH better to WAIT until either you've established a trusting relationship with him or her, or invest in a "novelty" toy that will assist in providing a temporary release. Hey, it's safer.

I think that if we didn't live in such a horny world, a lot of people would be healthier. Granted, more and more people are taking precautions now, but still - KNOW your partner, know their history, know who else they have been with. Their NAMES, too...god! *shaking head*

Bottom line - don't be stupid, protect yourself, and you'll be fine.

Well, in some area, I disagree with you. The history & studies reveal that old civilization have higher sex activities than we do (plus they are way hornier than us) and yet AIDS does not exist while STD is almost nonexistent. They did not practice any kind of 'safe-sex' with partners. Can anyone find the condom in old civilization areas? Anyone? Based on the evidences & studies, I don't think it comes from sexual activities itself. It must be something else. I explained about my friend who had IC with STD-infected partner and didn't infect by her. I believe it is low immune system-related. In old civilization, I am more than sure that they have way higher immune system than we do nowaday.

But to still anyone's paranoid, it is better off to use condom or safe sex but I do not believe that it is due to sexual activities. It cannot be. Not with these studies and researches. Well, that's my opinion and I want to share that with you.

Edit: As Liebling)) said in her post about AIDS. first AIDS case is known: 1965. It does not happen anywhere in the old times while their sex activities are perhaps three times more than we do in present. That's why I start to suspect that was not due to sexual activities. Airborne? Unlikely but some people are suspecting that it is.

 

[Vance]

Edit: I am trying to be sound less than bluntness but seem impossible for me since it is unfortunately my character. My apologizes for this but it is not about you people at all, I simply want to add some more facts that I found. Nothing more

I wonder if anyone ever read this book, Hawaii (link) by James A. Michener? I cannot believe that I forget to mention one interesting fact in that book. It mentioned about hawaiians and their sex activites. Before white people came up to their island, hawaiians are very free in sex acitivities, so free that it would shock any religious people to death (i.e. promiscuous) and know what? They even don't have any kind of STD or common diseases until... white people's arrival. White people were in ecstasy about Hawaiians' promiscuous behaviors and had performed sex activities with them, the result? Hawaiians became infected with STD, AIDS and other different diseases that NEVER ever exist in their cultural history.

What does that tell you? White people are the diseases? Ok, I am joking, actually it was a bad joke but the point is that STD or AIDS problems does not exist in Hawaiian culture even with promiscuous behaviors until white people's arrival. That's something for anyone to think about. You don't believe me if you want to, you can buy that book and read, you will find out for yourself. (note: book contains over 1,000 pages, good luck )


And there is another thing for anyone to think about. Another thing that I didn't mention in my first post (actually too long post). AIDS & STD problems are practically nonexistent in Africa until vaccinations is mandatory. The medical articles mentioned about time frame between vaccinations and AIDS. Is that a link between vaccination and AIDS/STD? You be the judge. I wish I save few article to back me up but I don't.. not at this moment anyway, I will post whenever I find it. The problem with medical articles is that there is tooooooooo many medical articles. I wish that computer's 'find' feature can be functional in reality *sigh*

 

[bbnt]

It is not full of crap. It is very sad because two gay men died of AIDS in my hometown. They gave their representation to the High School to explain the students how much they took their risky. Couple gay are so sweet and cherish for other students to not take any risky.

The dry anus which causes bleeding from the intercourse. The gay did get cut on the penis because he was hardly intercourse due to extremely dry in the anus. Then ex parnter got cut from bleeding. I know, it is very gross to explain this but it is fact as true.

Dry virgial and anus are high RISKY !!

no I was correct, that post and everything about it was 100% pure crap

 

[Cheri]

No, no. you are wrong in that case. Adultery is more sin than homosexuality. Can you read the Ten Commandments? No? Ok let me paste what Ten Commandments said: (It is in Catholic, I used it for you)

Tell me where is the homosexuality law in Ten Commandments? ZERO. NONE. BLANK. NADA. NIL. VOID. ZIP. So therefore Adultery is more sin than homosexuality. You and your idiotic priest failed. Let me repeat: God and Jesus CLEARLY said that you, especially you and your ignorant priest CANNOT judge others or impose your beliefs on others.

oh? you read the bible? Why, congratulations! But you or your ignorant priest didn't follow what the bible said. Let me show what the bible said:

Do not speak evil against one another, brethren. He that speaks evil against a brother or judges his brother, speaks evil against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. 12 There is one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you that you judge your neighbor? - Jame 4:11

Get it bub? I sure hope so. ravensteve1961, from now, I will ignore your comments in this topic completely, you kept ranting without any kind of evidences or facts to back you up. I already used the facts to back me up about homosexual does not cause AIDS.

That is what I am talking about stating facts,..

 

[Liebling:-)))]

No, Magastu.

You create your threads with fact!




I reading the FRAU VON HEUTE magazine today and saw interesting topic over that AID. I translated German into English.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

I translate into English from German magazine. It could be not 100% prefect but I do what I can.

The five largest mistakes over the immunodeficiency illness
20 million humans died already at AIDS, 42 million are infected.

1. Is gays only one who get AIDS?

Imbecility! Total of 1,500 to 2000 homosexuals of men in Germany got new infected in 2003, the women with infection is over up to more 10 times highly danger.

2. Do the human got infects only through "normally" Sex?

Wrongly! The oral reputation or coitus interruptus sperm are also risk of infection!

3. Is condom always protection?

No. The Latex tears with inappropriate use (e.g. when using body lotion instead of lubricants) easily. The doctors can be possible to stop the infection with medicamentous within 72 hours after relationship.

4. Is Sneezing also affect?

No! Infections are only possible over blood or sperm, not over saliva, tears, nose fluid or urine. Therefore the common use of of cutlery, glasses or WC also is completely harmless!

5. Do babies of HIV positive women are also infected?

No, it's not correct. The baby is up to 98% healthly but they has to be deliver by C-Section.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Interview: Don't we take HIV seriously enough?
The sexual unprotection increases.

FRAU VON HEUTE reporter spoke JOYCE Dreezens fuhrke (50), e.V. referntin of the German AIDS assistance to the world AIDS day.

FRAU VON HEUTE:
The new infections rise again since the figure of condom sales goes decrease. Did AIDS lose the fear?

JOYCE:
Not generally. The infections rise with priority under homosexual men in large cities. But it may not be also the reason for carelessness for hetereosexuelle. Unfortunately, I experience again and again that the women do without use sex protection (condom) accord their partner's wish. It's worst is that many young people are careless how to take care of their safety from an infection.

FRAU VON HEUTE:
Where do the reasons lie?

JOYCE:
The topic is not any longer as update as into the 90ern, but connect to Africa or Asia is the reason, they are still discussed about. The policy does not spend too much money on the research, commericals as "gives to AIDS a chance" in the cinema and TV. It goes rarely now due budget condition.

FRAU VON HEUTE:
When does a vaccine come?

JOYCE:
It give at the earliest in ten years time.

Being tire of Condom?
Sex with protection becomes more rarely now.

It written that 40,000 Germans were infected through carenessless, Naivitaet, drugs needles, etc