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TXgolfer said:
Not at all. Again you can be a friend without supporting a friends activities.
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That's not what I said but that's a nice try :)

Can you be friend with gay people while you support anti-gay policy? :hmm:
 
naisho said:
Which devotion of Christianity is the true christian to you?
I've seen various forms and attended congregations, each are unique in their own.
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To me, there is only one true Christanity, one that actually tries to follow God and does what is right. Only God can decide if that person actually tries to live up to it or not.

It is not my place to say a person is a true or untrue Christain.
 
Foxrac said:
Neither of you and kokonut are homophobia.
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That's cool

I am saying it is your choice to limit the pool you choose your friends from. I try not to limit my pool too much..... The more friends the better as far as I am concerned.
 
This discussion is fairly simple. Some people don't like to pretend, be hypocritical, or just feel at ease with being friends with someone they would have major conflicting issues with. Others don't care for their issues and just want to hang out with them for the sake of doing so.
Like a waiter, she can't turn down someone because there is potential business involved. But some do show it just like the deafies around here have posted about in the past.

Two complete different personalities. Neither are wrong, but for me personally I'd be more on the side that faces with reality to avoid the least problems. I'd have no problems being acquaintances, however.
 
Secretblend said:
A true Christan would want nobody to go to hell. If a person that claims to be a Christan but believes a person should rot in hell is not a true Christan.
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You are correct.
 
Going back to what started this debate. I find it far more insidious for a poster to relentlessly criticize/attack another poster in a forum..... than for a poster to relentlessly attack/criticize a political figure in a political forum.

Just sayin
 
TXgolfer said:
That's cool

I am saying it is your choice to limit the pool you choose your friends from. I try not to limit my pool too much..... The more friends the better as far as I am concerned.
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as long as you are not a hypocrite :)
 
TXgolfer said:
That's cool

I am saying it is your choice to limit the pool you choose your friends from. I try not to limit my pool too much..... The more friends the better as far as I am concerned.
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Yup, exception of my grandma and relatives, and if I know some of them is homophobia so I wouldn't want discuss about homosexual related topic with them, however they are still my families and I should love them.

I edited my post to make some additional about reasons above.

If any person whoever opposes some section of gay rights or all because of their personal belief so that's not homophobia. Homophobia is means anyone whoever start bash, provoke, threat, bully, attack against homosexual people and too pushy for them to change. I'm hardly to see homophobia in AD, except for political debate that may get too personal.
 
Foxrac said:
Yup, exception of my grandma and relatives, and if I know some of them is homophobia so I wouldn't want discuss about homosexual related topic with them, however they are still my families and I should love them.

I edited my post to make some additional about reasons above.

If any person whoever opposes some section of gay rights or all because of their personal belief so that's not homophobia. Homophobia is means anyone whoever start bash, provoke, threat, bully, attack against homosexual people and too pushy for them to change. I'm hardly to see homophobia in AD, except for political debate that may get too personal.
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that was what I was trying to ask...if someone who is like that can be friends with a gay person?
 
shel90 said:
that was what I was trying to ask...if someone who is like that can be friends with a gay person?
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Sure they can.....why not? It's a choice......do they get past it or not?
 
TXgolfer said:
Sure they can.....why not? It's a choice......do they get past it or not?
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Really? If it was me who was the gay person, I wouldnt be able to get past it knowing that my friend is out there harrassing other gay people because of their lifestyle.
 
shel90 said:
Really? If it was me who was the gay person, I wouldnt be able to get past it knowing that my friend is out there harrassing other gay people because of their lifestyle.
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Just curious, what is your definition of harrassing?
 
shel90 said:
Really? If it was me who was the gay person, I wouldnt be able to get past it knowing that my friend is out there harrassing other gay people because of their lifestyle.
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exactly my point.

If a person is friend with this gay person but is mean to other gay people.... and yet in debate - he hides behind the fact that he is friend with gay person. what's up with that?

hence.... a confused person.
 
Jiro said:
exactly my point.

If a person is friend with this gay person but is mean to other gay people.... and yet in debate - he hides behind the fact that he is friend with gay person. what's up with that?

hence.... a confused person.
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:lol:
 
shel90 said:
Really? If it was me who was the gay person, I wouldnt be able to get past it knowing that my friend is out there harassing other gay people because of their lifestyle.
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I guess that would depend on the definition of harassing....

If someone is out there beating gay people with a club I doubt many gay people will want to be friends with them.......

If someone opposes gay marriage and votes against it......sure....it's just a difference of opinion. Most friends have many.
 
TXgolfer said:
I guess that would depend on the definition of harassing....

If someone is out there beating gay people with a club I doubt many gay people will want to be friends with them.......

If someone opposes gay marriage and votes against it......sure....it's just a difference of opinion. Most friends have many.
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yes. that's true.... until that person is against every (or nearly all) gay-friendly policy like... allowing gay people in military. allowing gay people to adopt children. allowing gay people in Boy Scout. etc.
 
Jiro said:
yes. that's true.... until that person is against every (or nearly all) gay-friendly policy like... allowing gay people in military. allowing gay people to adopt children. allowing gay people in Boy Scout. etc.
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Still.....just a difference of opinion. No reason they can't enjoy a beer or a ballgame together. It is their decision whether they want to invest the time to work past their differences. Some will.....some won't
 
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